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#72240 - 12/10/06 05:57 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
Lorrie
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Yeah, pretty much. Is that wrong?


*cackling*
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#72243 - 12/10/06 06:04 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
Lola
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not really susan

i know i've been involved in the lastest events here at NM, but i am not happy at all that i had to be , in order to stand up for a friend. i wish i didn't have to do that because those are not the kind of posts i'd like to send

i've met great ppl here @ NM and i am thankful for that.

i know that the saying " can't we all just get along" is an utopia, there will be always disagreements , but the support , kindness,advice and strenght of ppl should speak louder than the feuds and soap operas

just my 2 cents

hugs, lola

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#72245 - 12/10/06 06:10 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
MrSoul
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Originally Posted By: TeddysMom
"The fights, the soaps, the feuds are what kept NM alive and well for 10 years."


Yes... but keep in mind that "soaps" are not always feuds or fights. Sometimes, they are just soaps.

Originally Posted By: TeddysMom
Do you agree with this?
Is the what you want NM to be in the future?


Future? What future?

If things don't pick up here, won't be any future.


Edited by MrSoul (12/10/06 06:11 PM)
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#72248 - 12/10/06 06:46 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: MrSoul]
MerryA
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There have always been fights on NM. People have opinions that other people disagree with. Fights ensue.

By allowing complainers, liars and cry babies to determine who is warned or banned, unfortunately, NM has created a safe haven for the very posters that cause the majority of the problems and disruption. I no longer recommend NM to people because of this new bias.

Susan, lurking at PQ, quoting a poster from there in hopes he would be trashed here is instigating a fight. Do you want him to post here so you can complain if your baiting works?

Many long time posters went to PQ as their primary board as a direct result of our opposition to you and your attempts to gain control. We didn't leave because of the fighting, we left because of your sick need to control and your behind the scenes attempts to destroy NM. You should be proud of yourself - you have almost succeeded in destroying NM. Seek professional help.
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#72250 - 12/10/06 07:04 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
ParaDude
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Yup if you are going to quote me at least give me the credit. Also you might include some of the other things I said in regards to NM.

NM has always had conflict, feuds, soaps, and those threads get viewed and commented on many times a day. I said those things were "a part" of what made NM's message board the success that it WAS.

Think of the fighting as the SALES flyer that draws people into the store, once there the people also buy other items as well.

If you want proof of the fact that the heated debates and feuds are IN PART the reason people come here to read and post, just take a look at the threads that get the most VIEWS here. It certainly isn't the LAME ASS recipe games certain wannabes post to try and make things more popular.

Again, and probably not for the last time, NM was doing just fine before you came along, before the whiners took over, yes some changes needed to be made, yes we needed to make sure people didn't create new alias' just for the purpose of personal attacks, and yes, the personal attacks needed to be harnassed in as well.

Other than that, NM was doing just fine and had been for a long time before YOU ever showed up.
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#72251 - 12/10/06 07:04 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
Wanderer
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Registered: 11/22/06
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Originally Posted By: TeddysMom
Lola if you have regrets aboout the past - how do you think the future can be changed?

TJ, so quantity of posts is more important than quality?
This is a popularity contest?



Susan, I am saying this out of kindness, leave this alone. NM users have spoken, Jeff L. has spoken. I would have liked a discussion on some minor controls but got no support and accept that is because NM users want things to stay the same. If you keep picking at this scab before it heals you will, I beleive, find your existence here very uncomfortable and you do offer something to NM, so please think about this before it gets ugly.

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#72252 - 12/10/06 07:05 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
Lola
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hi susan

maybe i didn't phrase it right , but i have no regrets whatsoever of what i said in my posts

my conscience is clean and i think i did the right thing standing up for my friend. that's me and that's what i believe is right and i'd like my friend , a true friend to do the same thing , though i wouldnt expect them to do it , every person is different , but that's what makes life interesting.

to me, there obviously will be disagreements in the future , but i think ppl could agree to disagree and keep the conversation on a high level , without personal attacks. thats what ruins everything , in my opinion

hugs, lola

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#72255 - 12/10/06 07:14 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
sodapop
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i'm trying hard not to hate this 'woman' but it ain't working. i hope susan doesn't turn up murdered 'cause there will be too many suspects.
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#72256 - 12/10/06 07:32 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
MerryA
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Originally Posted By: TeddysMom
Merry, I didn't post the person's name I quoted deliberately so that they would not feel it necessary to defend their position.

They have stated this is what they believe was the source of NM's success - how is that trashing them? I am giving people the opportunity to agree with the position stated. I tried to quote and ask 2 questions without swaying the outcome one way or the other.

I am on many message boards where people have diametrically opposite viewpoints - and argue their sides without resorting to ad hominem attacks. Why can't this happen more frequently here?
PD has made this same statement many times here. I didn't have to go to PQ to know it was him. You posted it specifically to start a fight knowing PD would defend his position - he always has and always will. Your hypocrisy is disgusting.

What do you care if people agree with Dan's position or not - a position that he posted AND that was responded to at PQ. You wanted to start a fight, pure and simple. Your hypocrisy is disgusting.

Why isn't NM like the sanitized sites you frequent? Because NM was unique and had a spirit not found anywhere else - until your insane behind the scenes lies and manipulations. Your few supporters speak volumes about your unethical tactics. Your hypocrisy is disgusting.

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#72257 - 12/10/06 07:51 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
flicka
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Originally Posted By: TeddysMom
"The fights, the soaps, the feuds are what kept NM alive and well for 10 years."

Do you agree with this?
Is the what you want NM to be in the future?

Probably. We had all of the above and more until the past year and NM was alive and well. The past year has been a spiral into hell between waring factions and got so bad that almost every post was infected by it, in one way or another.

We were fine up until that point, and most things ironed themselves out. That might have meant that one, or both parties left the board for awhile, and it got unbelievably ugly, but it pretty much ironed itself out.

True democracy. Surely you can appreciate that?
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#72258 - 12/10/06 07:56 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: flicka]
ParaDude
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True democracy. Surely you can appreciate that?


No she does not appreciate that, if she did then when the vast majority of people at NM spoke up and said "NO" to Xuxan's involvement she would have graciously stepped aside. Her own ego made it impossible for her to respect the request of everyone here. Perhaps if she had, things might have turned out different.
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#72260 - 12/10/06 07:58 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
ParaDude
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You did post it as my position, it was in quotations, you just lacked the balls to give me credit for the QUOTE.
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#72261 - 12/10/06 08:01 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
MerryA
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Originally Posted By: TeddysMom
Something changed.
And you don't think you contributed to that? Amazing.
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#72263 - 12/10/06 08:04 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ]
ParaDude
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Yeah yeah so you say.

The MAJORITY of regular posters spoke up. Perhaps someone will bump that thread again just in case you want a recount. Where are all your backers now? The board is dead and you killed it and the whiners killed it.
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#72264 - 12/10/06 08:06 PM Re: "The fights, the soaps, the feuds are... [Re: ParaDude]
flicka
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Originally Posted By: ParaDude
You did post it as my position, it was in quotations, you just lacked the balls to give me credit for the QUOTE.

you stole my signature suggestion. huh? lol
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