#67933 - 05/21/06 07:43 AM
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john55555
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Xuxan..
Think they might hold one again next year?
Thnx..J.
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#67936 - 05/21/06 01:05 PM
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StarlightAngel
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i never got what the whole "disability pride" thing was all about either.
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#67938 - 05/22/06 01:19 AM
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ParaDude
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:rolleyes:
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#67939 - 05/23/06 10:25 AM
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StarlightAngel
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Originally posted by Xuxan: Disability pride isn't about being proud of the the impairment your body has - it is about being proud of the cultural and historical contributions of people with disabilities, it is about celebrating the ability of (atleast some of us)people from diverse backgrounds and abilities to work together. It is about being in a place (the parade) where having a disability is ordinary. It has very little to do with any individual person. It is about being part of an extended family - not a family you were born into - but a family you share some similar characteristics with. isn't that why we have NM? :p
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#67941 - 05/24/06 08:14 PM
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Blueonetime
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I'm very confused by this whole disability parade thing. Why parade something that (I personally find) is very negative?
It's something that happened, I try to live with it, minimize it, and have the best life possible...but parade it? I don't get it.
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#67943 - 05/25/06 10:42 AM
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sodapop
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wtf's proud to be disabled? :rolleyes:
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#67944 - 05/25/06 11:08 AM
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Greg
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oh darn, thought it was a gay/lesbo, drag queen parade, the one in Toronto is a hoot
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#67945 - 05/25/06 12:37 PM
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StarlightAngel
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a lesbian friend in NYC keeps inviting me out to see the NY GLBT parade, but it's in july and usually really hot so i never go.
maybe one day i should make it a point, esp. if sodapop shows up too...
[edited for typo]
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#67947 - 05/25/06 02:56 PM
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sodapop
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Originally posted by Xuxan: Teh Gay Pride parade in NYC is wonderful. Not to be missed if you get a chance. If you ever thought you were weird - there is going to be someone at that parade who is weirder. xuxan's right about the parade. Xobext!
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#67948 - 05/25/06 08:56 PM
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katka
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Originally posted by Xuxan: Disability pride isn't about being proud of the the impairment your body has - it is about being proud of the cultural and historical contributions of people with disabilities, it is about celebrating the ability of (atleast some of us)people from diverse backgrounds and abilities to work together. It is about being in a place (the parade) where having a disability is ordinary. It has very little to do with any individual person. It is about being part of an extended family - not a family you were born into - but a family you share some similar characteristics with. If you think a whole group of people with disabilities parading to be considered "ordinary" you are incredibly naive. The able bodied community would, undoubtly, wonder why you on one hand expect to be treated as everyone else yet you want a parade to be celebrate your difference.
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#67949 - 05/25/06 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by katka: If you think a whole group of people with disabilities parading to be considered "ordinary" you are incredibly naive. I think Susan meant that one feels "ordinary" when surrounded by so many others with disabilities. Have you ever been in a crowd of people with disabilities? It's a fearfully "normal" feeling.
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#67951 - 05/26/06 02:31 AM
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dowdy
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I have a friend Tony Doyle who is a film maker, here in Australia is it to late for him to enter a film?
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#67952 - 05/26/06 08:45 AM
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Wheelchair_diva
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I do not get the whole semantics of the “Disability Pride”. I think that the word pride is just used as a catchy line, but I doubt that some people are proud of something that caused them so much physical pain and social problems. I can be proud of my achievements as a disabled person, but not about my disability. I am not ashamed of my physical limitations either, and I don’t know if I would like to be any different. I agree with Dorothea Lange; she said about her disability…. "I think it was perhaps the most important thing that happened to me. If formed me, guided me, instructed me, helped me, humiliated me, all those things at once. I've never gotten over it, and I am aware of the force and power of it."
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#67956 - 05/26/06 02:04 PM
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katka
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Originally posted by StarlightAngel: Originally posted by flicka: Have you ever been in a crowd of people with disabilities? It's a fearfully "normal" feeling. it's actually a traffic jam of wheelchairs. which is one reason why i prefer to do the crip solidarity thing online.
i also don't see the point of parading it down the street tho. Exactly! I wouldn't feel "ordinary" in a group of disabled people anymore than I'd feel normal in a group of blondes. I just don't get it, but if it makes you happy, have at it....
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#67957 - 05/26/06 03:55 PM
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flicka
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Originally posted by katka: Exactly! I wouldn't feel "ordinary" in a group of disabled people anymore than I'd feel normal in a group of blondes. Initially after injury, I wanted to stay as far away as possible from others with disabilities so I was shocked when I discovered that "ordinary feeling" while among the crowd.
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#67958 - 05/26/06 04:32 PM
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Blueonetime
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Maybe as Flicka says I'm still in that stage since I'm a relative "newbee" para, of a couple of years.
I didn't mean to offend anyone Xuxan. But to me it sounds like a parade or celebration of something like your mother dying, or your house burning down. I just can't imagine it. Why parade something that (to me anyway) has been negative and difficult.
Of course if people enjoy this kind of thing they should definitely be involved.
To each his own...
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#67959 - 05/26/06 05:11 PM
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MrSoul
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Originally posted by Blueonetime: But to me it sounds like a parade or celebration of something like your mother dying, or your house burning down. Those of us born disabled don't necessarily feel like our mothers died or our house burned down. :rolleyes:
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#67960 - 05/26/06 05:15 PM
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Greg
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Originally posted by Blueonetime: Why parade something that (to me anyway) has been negative and difficult.
Misery loves company?
I have empathy for other disabled folks. For myself I go between feeling creepy and angry. But we soldier on.
Parade, no thanks.
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#67961 - 05/26/06 08:21 PM
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StarlightAngel
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Originally posted by Xuxan: Karen, It might be considered a traffic jam of wheelchairs if by disability you meant chair user - but the parade is actually people with every kind of disability. And as lots of the participants can't walk/roll the length of the parade route there are lots of floats, flat bed trucks, and convertibles. (In fact, I need to get on renting a convertible!)
The point of parading down the street is in part to celebrate and to be seen celebrating. Last year there were 3,000 people in the parade and about the same watching. Except that part of the parade has been to invite everyone to join us - and so the a lot of parade watchers actually disappear into the parade.
Susan sounds like fun if you're into it. i am just not comfortable being on display like that. rather uncomfortably reminiscent of circus sideshows imho.
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#67962 - 05/26/06 08:35 PM
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flicka
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Originally posted by StarlightAngel: sounds like fun if you're into it. i am just not comfortable being on display like that. rather uncomfortably reminiscent of circus sideshows imho. I've felt that way about every parade I've been in. I've been in one parade since being disabled and that was a local mardi gras parade. But, I still felt on display.
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#67964 - 05/26/06 09:13 PM
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ParaDude
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Originally posted by flicka: Originally posted by StarlightAngel: sounds like fun if you're into it. i am just not comfortable being on display like that. rather uncomfortably reminiscent of circus sideshows imho. I've felt that way about every parade I've been in. I've been in one parade since being disabled and that was a local mardi gras parade. But, I still felt on display. I'd have been happy to toss you beads.
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#67965 - 05/27/06 07:03 AM
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john55555
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That "Gay Pride Parade" in NYC is a kick! Our daughter lives in Long Beach (Long Island). One year we were visiting her and her fiancee and they said "You gotta go!"
We did..and it was a blast!! I've done lots of stuff over the years..and this ranks up there ahead of Fiesta and Mardi Gra!!
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