#166074 - 10/09/09 03:20 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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shakey56
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I only make fun of those who confuse faith with fact. You wouldn't happen to be one of those idiots, would ya?
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#166078 - 10/09/09 03:26 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Wabisan
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I don't have any problem with believing in God the creator and evolution at the same time.
Since faith is faith, in the view of the believer, it negates some fact. For example, I as a Christian believe that Jesus is the son of God. To me that is a fact. A Jew's faith tells him that this is not so. That is his fact. Is he confusing fact with faith, or am I, or is neither of us, because faith lives on a plane of existence apart from that of fact?
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#166083 - 10/09/09 03:36 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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shakey56
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See that's where you and all of the devout are wrong. Your faith does not equal fact. It is just faith. Turning it into fact is a large part of the reason we have so much conflict over faith.
I'll agree with a different plane of existence, a theoretical plane. That in no way diminishes any faith. See yours is no better than his. They are all just faith. The fact of faith or no faith can only be learned at death.
I do enjoy making fun of those who claim god like abilities, like knowing the facts abt god.
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#166087 - 10/09/09 03:49 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Wabisan
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I would hardly classify myself as "devout". Every person who considers himself a Christian considers it a fact that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Otherwise he would not be a Christian.
I do enjoy making fun of those who claim god like abilities, like knowing the facts abt god.
You would come across as a lot more fair and balanced if you started making as much fun of Muslims, for some of whom it is an act of faith to kill you for not accepting Mohammed, as you do of Christians.
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#166090 - 10/09/09 04:07 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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If that is a fact in your world, you are delusional just like the Muslims you want me to include.
When you become rational, I'll begin to consider your advice.
I respect all faiths. When their faith become facts to the devout they lose my respect because that is impossible and highly dangerous to we few remaining rational souls on this planet.
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#166094 - 10/09/09 04:38 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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I take my faith from God's word the bible. It is not something I have just dreamed up. I have had enough proof that God is who He says He is so I have no doubt left. It doesn't bother me that you do not believe or that anyone does not believe, but it will bother me to see those unbelievers turned away from God into outer darkness one day. It will be very sad for all. But that most definately will be what will happen and it is coming up so soon. There is a last verse in the bible where Jesus says,'He that is unjust, let him be unjust still; and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still; and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still; and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
And behold I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am alpha and Omega the first and the last.
Revelation 22:11-13
That day is quickly overtaking us.
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#166097 - 10/09/09 04:48 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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ParaDude
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Faith does not equal Fact. Period.
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#166100 - 10/09/09 04:58 PM
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i had faith in the tooth-fairy, but voila, no tooth-fairies. my ma put the money under my pillow.
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#166107 - 10/09/09 05:13 PM
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God never intended faith to be fact except to the believer. That is what sets the tares apart from the wheat.
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#166112 - 10/09/09 05:16 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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ParaDude
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God never intended faith to be fact except to the believer. That is what sets the tares apart from the wheat.
Paul
You have no absolute knowledge on what God intends. You'll have to answer to him if you've make false assumptions, spread those assumptions around, and attribute them to god. You better hope you are 100% correct about what God intends. I'm just a simple man and not arrogant enough to think I know what God's intentions really are.
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#166116 - 10/09/09 05:21 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Read His book.
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#166118 - 10/09/09 05:23 PM
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shakey56
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He has yet to write one 
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#166119 - 10/09/09 05:23 PM
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ParaDude
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I have and if true, God is a S.O.B., and I'll tell that straight to his face come judgment day just prior to his damning me to hell.
The God of the Bible is not an entity I will ever spend eternity worshiping...no way, no where, no how. (Unless of course he can explain his rationale for being a S.O.B. to my satisfaction...then...maybe)
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#166120 - 10/09/09 05:23 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Paulwa_dup1
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God attributed righteousness to Abraham because he had faith in God and believed. Every other soul without that faith was unrighteous. According to Gods own word. Just one instance of this fact.
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#166126 - 10/09/09 05:27 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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shakey56
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You would know a fact...lmao
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