#165671 - 10/06/09 07:56 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Johnboy 64
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Johnboy Micro evolution works within species but Macro, evolvement from lower specie to higher different specie has never worked and thereis nothing to prove it ever happened in the past. Evolutionist scientists take that idea totally on faith. It is not even a theory because science does not support it.
Paul
humans are evolving... look how tall we are now...
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#165672 - 10/06/09 08:51 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Paul I
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Macroevolution is what Darwin's theories were all about. Microevolution may actually produce a new species. It's all about time. If you can conceive of the 4 million years man has been evolving that's nearly 270,000 generations. That's 1000 times as long as Fundamentalists claim for the age of the earth.Look how hummans have changed in the last 10,000 years.
Davyd, liberals are to libertarians as a compass is to a ship.
Our libertarian Legislature actually tried to sell all the Stste buildings. They do not believe in public schools and most of them are actually dumb. It is a political philosophy that got us to the golden spike but is now impractical. I excuse you as these
little pockets of Ayn Rand pop up priodically over time.
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#165679 - 10/06/09 10:56 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Davyd
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Davyd, liberals are to libertarians as a compass is to a ship.
Our libertarian Legislature actually tried to sell all the Stste buildings. They do not believe in public schools and most of them are actually dumb. It is a political philosophy that got us to the golden spike but is now impractical. I excuse you as these
little pockets of Ayn Rand pop up priodically over time.
Yes Paul I understand that you, like shakester, being a liberal believe that your thoughts and beliefs are far superior to mere humans.
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#165685 - 10/07/09 01:26 AM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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ghoti
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Johnboy Micro evolution works within species but Macro, evolvement from lower specie to higher different specie has never worked and thereis nothing to prove it ever happened in the past. Evolutionist scientists take that idea totally on faith. It is not even a theory because science does not support it.
Paul
Paulwa, you are sadly misinformed about the so-called "macro" evolution. It's just "?micro" evolution extended over millions and billions of years. They're the same thing, the only difference being the time factor.
It isn't true that there is no evidence of one species morphing into another. The fossil record shows thousands of intermediate forms along the pathway of major changes in many species. New ones are being found all the time.
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#165727 - 10/07/09 11:04 AM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Paulwa_dup1
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Name one proven intermediary, Ghoti. I am not wrong about Micro and Macro. Macro is evolutionery nonsense and has not a leg to stand on..Not even an apes.
Paul
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#165729 - 10/07/09 11:09 AM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Paulwa_dup1
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Humans have always been humans and always will be. We may change or mutate zillions of times but we will always be human. DNA experiments could change a species drastically though but it has never happened in nature that I am aware of. Micro-evolution is a fact but it never changes one species to a new species. That takes Macro-evolution, but that is evolutionery fiction put on by scientist out to prove there is no creator. They will NEVER prove it to be a working theory. It is a bad hypothesis if that.
Paul
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#165733 - 10/07/09 11:27 AM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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shakey56
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lmfao...gotta admire your tenacity...I think...lol. Paul, you don't have a leg to stand on just like the creation "scientists" you love.
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#165742 - 10/07/09 11:46 AM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Paulwa_dup1
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Shakey whydo you think evolution exists. What proof have you seen? Or do you just accept the textbooks at their word? I have seen a great many of evolution facts totally dispelled by creation scientists and evolution cannot stand any real scrutiny. I think you are anti creator and so just acceptthe viewpoints of Darwin because it is a way to take Godout of the picture. I think there is a greatmany peoplelike you who choose evolution for just that reason.
Pau
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#165749 - 10/07/09 12:11 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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shakey56
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Paul, the evidence is overwhelming. You just refuse to accept it. The proof is everywhere, and you refuse to see it.
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#165789 - 10/07/09 05:13 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Paulwa_dup1
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I've looked and i have never seen any proof. I didn't seen any true proof when I took Biology in college either. It as I suspected You just accept the anti God rhetoric because itfits your values better.
Paul
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#165792 - 10/07/09 05:22 PM
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shakey56
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Oh Paul, you are hopeless...lol You assign your mindless acceptance to me when you have no idea what my values are.
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#165797 - 10/07/09 05:45 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Iliveby faith. You live by scientific proof. When you get some come on back and we'll talk.
Paul
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#165828 - 10/07/09 09:40 PM
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shakey56
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I have tons your closed mind will not accept.
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#165830 - 10/07/09 10:11 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Paul I
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Paul, consider that you and some friends are taking a float plane into Alaska for some hunting or fishing. Blizzard comes up and plane force lands in a open but succluded area. Some of your friends are desk jockies, one is an auto mechanic, one's a gym teacher.. You'er all about 23. After two months only one of you has survived. A search plane sees him and brings him in. Why did he survive? Somehow his physical and mental state was more durable than his friends. Shortly after he marries, has three kids and so on. That which helped him survive is passed to his kids. His friends never have this possibility. so generally speaking those who are the most capable have a greater chance to reproduce. Over thousands of years humans become "better" be it physically or mentally. All those tiny micro recombinatios or mutations accumulate to produce change. Neanderthal man existed only 10-20 thousand years ago- a short time to the scientist.
Otherw living around him, more advanced humans, eventually
destroyed this sub species of humanoids. Other examples are endless- skin color , physique, height, sickle cell anemia, some disease resistance, Get how it works? It's all time.
Incidently, Man could not have evolved from apes as one can't evolve from something existing now. We may have had common ancestors but that was millions of years ago.
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#165832 - 10/07/09 11:33 PM
Re: Skepticism of Darwin's Theory Continues to Gro
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Paulwa_dup1
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That is micro evolution Paul and it is true. There is no macro evolution where one specie changes to another.
As far as a common ancestor is concerned look at the fossil records. Darwin had a tree of life shaped similar to a hand. A wrist with hand and extending fingers to show diversity of evolution. The fossil record shows small sea creatures in the beginning and many eons later mammal life burst on the scene all at once all in their own specie like an explosion of life. Creation by God had just occurred. That hand represents in its lower portion small cellular life and small molusc like life. The going up the hand it is nearly at the tip of the fingers when all species suddenly occur simultaneously almost. This is what scientists working in the field have discovered.
Paul
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