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And all Christian think alike and want the same things? I would submit you are much less likely to find agreement with your premises among most Christians than you think. Your fundamental view of faith separates you from most Christians I know and from most statistically.
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Originally Posted By: shakey56
So, using science, logic or gawd forbid profanity to refute or piss off a fundamentalist is making fun of them? I said it was fun for me not that I was making fun of them. Generally they do a much better job of making fun of themselves unintentionally anyway.
I guess I just don't get it shake. It, for the most part, seems to do absolutely no good. Or maybe it does and I just don't get the point.
Why would you want to deliberately piss off someone? How is that fun?
I don't know.... just laying here wondering why I continue to participate in this forum when it's neither fun nor educational for me.
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It (pissing off the religious right) is more of a joke than something ppl set out to do. The joke being that all the average person need do to piss off the religious right is just live their life. Something they are doing will piss them off.
You may have noticed how upset some (on both sides) with very rigid beliefs get when their beliefs are challenged. A rigid belief system is dangerous imho. When ppl stop seeing the possibility of valid points in opposing views is when the fighting starts or the minorities get trampled. I enjoy challenging the beliefs of the extremists on either side not to piss em off but to try to open their minds a bit.
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Thanks for the reply shake. I don't know, maybe I'm just burnt out on it for now. I enjoy hearing about others beliefs and being able to share my own without wondering what part of it I'll get hammered on. And the seemingly constant bickering is really getting on my nerves.
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lol Paul, how can I be extremist when I allow for the possibility that any or all belief systems may be right or wrong? Is it just that yours may very well be wrong (all evidence says it is) in my view? The only position I take on religion is that mortal man can not know the truth.
You are extreme the other way shakey in that you take in everything including trash and you think that lies and untruths don't affect your viewpoint??? Garbage in garbage out. I follow the truths that I have proven for myself and allow no garbage into the mix. Paul
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The key is the "garbage out" part of your statement.
We have the ability to decide what is and what is not garbage. You on the other hand seem quite content with labeling everything garbage without having a look at it first.
I in the beginning allowed some trash into the mix till I found the truth I settled with. Since then anything that has to do with my spiritual condition other than the word of God or words written by other christians is all trash. What you take in and study is your business but if it isn't aligned with Gods word it is trash to me. BUT I do not say you shouldn't take in and read whatever you like as that is your business. So why pile on me for my beliefs? I am free to state them..if you don't like them ignore them! I am a messenger you find a likely target. So be it. Paul
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You ever hear of the term, "don't kill the messenger", that's because messenger's are often killed and/or raked over the coals. You are obviously intelligent so you know that in taking the role of messenger you are thus taking the consequences as well.
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Why is it you fundies have such a persecution complex? This is only abt the message not the messenger. The message is seriously flawed, yet you buy it w/o question.
If you had my background and experience you would not be asking that question. I can't help you. You arethe only one who can help yourself to understand. There are no words I can say that will change your mind. I just lay it out as the bible says I should and the rest is up to you. I am not twisting any arms. You just don't likeit that I beleive the way I do when you just can't see it. Nothing I can do about that, Shakey. I'll wear my steel toed boots, PD. 'Shoot low Sheriff he's ridin a shetland!' :-) Paul
