#47405 - 07/06/06 09:56 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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Originally posted by MrSoul: Originally posted by Davyd:
Hey MrSoul! Wanna bet on how long I can keep "I" boy posting? $1/page if it goes 5 pages... or I'll send ya $10.
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#47406 - 07/06/06 09:57 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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Originally posted by MrSoul: Originally posted by Davyd:
Hey MrSoul! Wanna bet on how long I can keep "I" boy posting? $1/page if it goes 5 pages... or I'll send ya $10.
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#47407 - 07/06/06 10:01 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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Originally posted by MrSoul: Originally posted by Davyd:
Hey MrSoul! Wanna bet on how long I can keep "I" boy posting? $1/page if it goes 5 pages... or I'll send ya $10. 
Rather than cutting back, learn to embrace the sidetrack. Utilize each and everyone to individualize the thought and allow each thought to have it's own post.
Increased posts = increased thread length = more money 4 dave! 
Isaac needs new brake drums for the Buick, show me the money!
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#47408 - 07/06/06 11:53 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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'I', don't pull that six shooter..no way I would try a quick draw contest with you!  I keep blabberin my beliefs in case someone hasn't heard them before. Those who have, can overlook my statements. 
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#47409 - 07/07/06 10:37 AM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
Your statement:
("Now tell me what I was confused about, and what my devious and evil attempt to change the subject was. You seem to be constructed of the same kind of slime that Mr. soul is. Same tactics, even the use of italics. Or is that just the way of all Christians?")
"You seem to be confused with the idea that if I post on this thread then it simply must be to you"
You know that's not true. Mr. soul was making a big deal about that a while ago. I stated to him than what is obvious, that I have always replied to statements directed to others and others have done that also. You don't have to feign ignorance, your ignorance is obvious
Your statement:
"I posted a general idea to this thread. It really had nothing whatsoever to do with lighteningcreationistscience guy or you. I actually had to go back and see where the words of God were even talked about."
Religion has nothing to do with" God", are you sure that? It had to do with religion and religion has to do with a" God". So you were talking about religion. That which claims and defines a" God". To put it simple enough for you to understand," God" cannot be separated from religion. Obviously you found the words of" God" directly or indirectly in the statements of lightning creation scientists. She didn't mention" God"
Your statement:
"You are devious and evil in that you are trying to twist my comments to address something in this thread other than their original intent. That's a bad I, shame on you."
I twisted nothing as explained above. You are trying to twist your way out of it
Your statement:
"And seeing how we're offering 'proof' of your confusion, deviousness and evil ways where exactly did I use italics????"
Evidently it was lightning creation scientists who used the italics, my error. But how does your twisted mind, turn that into proof of my supposed confusion and deviousness?
Your statement:
"Yes, all Christians use proper punctuation and spelling. Thank you for noticing"
That was never the subject, and that was never the truth
Your statement:
"I've not said that science hasn't done good. I've not said that God doesn't often do things we consider bad. If you are simply going to make up things and declare that I believe them so you can make some hate mongering speech then I really don't need to be here do I?
No but you pointed out only the bad that science has done, while you are constantly bloating about the wonderful good that your" God" has supposedly done. Never mind the copout, you still are not saying that God has done anything bad. You say it is only what we consider bad. You do realize don't you, that the good is also only what we consider good. I do not make up anything, that's your game
Your statement:
"So your BELIEF is that my statement was incorrect, correct? Actually if you only trust that which you can know... then you must be fearful of flying off the face of the earth. You do not trust that which you claim to trust. Hypocrisy? I think so."
No it was obvious (nothing to do with belief) that your reply to Starlight's statement was unrelated, a false analogy. I did not say that I can only trust that which I can know. (And you are accusing me of making up things.). I can never know fully anything or anyone, yet I trust what I trust. (Again stop making up things). I do trust what I trust. I do not fear flying off the face of the earth, because I have never heard of or seen it happen . Where is my hypocrisy? The hypocrisy lies within the life you live and your beliefs.
Your statement:
("Oh you just corrupted it completely, destroyed its meaning, perverted it to suit your needs, that's all you did. That is sickening evil, deviousness. That is the way of Christians. As I said religion and science are complete opposites and have absolutely nothing in common. The one (science) seeks the truth, the other (religion) distorts, censors, perverts and does everything else in its power to destroy the truth")
"Oh well... if "YOU" say so... then it must be true? Let me clue you a little here, just cause you say it don't mean squat to me. There are quite a few similarities between the two if you'd open your mind a tad."
To what part of my above statement are you referring to, when you say, " then it must be true? I know that what I say does mean plenty to you, so you must reject it to protect your belief. However it does have its effects, on your belief. There are absolutely no similarities of religion and science, other than that both consist of human beings. Would you like to give me a few similarities regarding religion and science? You are the one with the closed mind. You have been programmed, and you don't dare let it go. So your mind is shut tight and locked
Your statement:
"rofl So let me ask you... when is a "lying perversion" not false? "
When the perversion is a premeditated perversion of words and statements it is false. A true perversion is not premeditated and not arranged for a specific purposes
Your statement:
"Only the most extreme radical fundamentalists believe that they have a corner on "the" truth"
And just what is it, that you proclaim you have a corner on?.
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#47410 - 07/07/06 08:52 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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Your statement:
("Now tell me what I was confused about, and what my devious and evil attempt to change the subject was. You seem to be constructed of the same kind of slime that Mr. soul is. Same tactics, even the use of italics. Or is that just the way of all Christians?")
My statement:
"You seem to be confused with the idea that if I post on this thread then it simply must be to you"
Your statement:
"You know that's not true. Mr. soul was making a big deal about that a while ago. I stated to him than what is obvious, that I have always replied to statements directed to others and others have done that also. You don't have to feign ignorance, your ignorance is obvious"
True we all post to whomever posts in a particular thread, however, we don't assume to demand that we answer for other peoples post. In other words if you have a problem with lighteningcreationscience guy... talk to him not me.
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#47411 - 07/07/06 08:55 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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My statement:
"I posted a general idea to this thread. It really had nothing whatsoever to do with lighteningcreationistscience guy or you. I actually had to go back and see where the words of God were even talked about."
Your statement:
Religion has nothing to do with" God", are you sure that? It had to do with religion and religion has to do with a" God". So you were talking about religion. That which claims and defines a" God". To put it simple enough for you to understand," God" cannot be separated from religion. Obviously you found the words of" God" directly or indirectly in the statements of lightning creation scientists. She didn't mention" God"
I'm sure religion does not necessarily have to include any supernatural beliefs.
Again, while we are all free to post whatever on the threads, the idea that I'm supposed to defend or be accountable for someone elses thought is silly.
Yippeee we've hit page 3!!!!!!!!
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#47412 - 07/07/06 08:57 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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My statement:
"You are devious and evil in that you are trying to twist my comments to address something in this thread other than their original intent. That's a bad I, shame on you."
Your statement:
"I twisted nothing as explained above. You are trying to twist your way out of it"
As shown you are attempting to force me into defending someone elses thoughts/beliefs. Ain't gonna happen, shame shame shame.
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#47413 - 07/07/06 08:59 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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My statement:
"And seeing how we're offering 'proof' of your confusion, deviousness and evil ways where exactly did I use italics????"
Your statement:
"Evidently it was lightning creation scientists who used the italics, my error. But how does your twisted mind, turn that into proof of my supposed confusion and deviousness?"
Apology accepted.
Either you deliberately lied about me using italics or you were confused as to who posted italics. I assumed the best of you and figured you were just confused. Should I have assumed you would deliberately lie?
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#47414 - 07/07/06 09:01 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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My statement:
"Yes, all Christians use proper punctuation and spelling. Thank you for noticing"
Your statement:
"That was never the subject, and that was never the truth"
I never said it was the subject and at one time it was the truth.
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#47415 - 07/07/06 09:03 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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My statement:
"I've not said that science hasn't done good. I've not said that God doesn't often do things we consider bad. If you are simply going to make up things and declare that I believe them so you can make some hate mongering speech then I really don't need to be here do I?
Your statement:
"No but you pointed out only the bad that science has done, while you are constantly bloating about the wonderful good that your" God" has supposedly done. Never mind the copout, you still are not saying that God has done anything bad. You say it is only what we consider bad. You do realize don't you, that the good is also only what we consider good. I do not make up anything, that's your game"
And you've only always pointed out the bad that religion has done, while you are constantly bloating(?) about the wonderful good that "science" has suposedly done.
Things simply are... whether they are good or bad is a subjective judgement.
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#47416 - 07/07/06 09:09 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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My statement:
"So your BELIEF is that my statement was incorrect, correct? Actually if you only trust that which you can know... then you must be fearful of flying off the face of the earth. You do not trust that which you claim to trust. Hypocrisy? I think so."
Your statment:
"No it was obvious (nothing to do with belief) that your reply to Starlight's statement was unrelated, a false analogy. I did not say that I can only trust that which I can know. (And you are accusing me of making up things.). I can never know fully anything or anyone, yet I trust what I trust. (Again stop making up things). I do trust what I trust. I do not fear flying off the face of the earth, because I have never heard of or seen it happen . Where is my hypocrisy? The hypocrisy lies within the life you live and your beliefs."
What you consider to be obvious is simply a subjective judgement based on your personal beliefs founded on what you choose to consider as evidence of truth.
Things fly off the earth on a routine basis. Does it not scare you that you might also fly away at some point? How can you be sure that you won't?
Your hypocrisy lies in the idea that you want to live based on facts and yet there are not enough facts to support your life. Belief has to enter into the picture somewhere in some form. You admit it and then deny that you are a hypocrit to your own beliefs!
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#47417 - 07/07/06 09:20 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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Your statement:
("Oh you just corrupted it completely, destroyed its meaning, perverted it to suit your needs, that's all you did. That is sickening evil, deviousness. That is the way of Christians. As I said religion and science are complete opposites and have absolutely nothing in common. The one (science) seeks the truth, the other (religion) distorts, censors, perverts and does everything else in its power to destroy the truth")
My statement:
"Oh well... if "YOU" say so... then it must be true? Let me clue you a little here, just cause you say it don't mean squat to me. There are quite a few similarities between the two if you'd open your mind a tad."
Your statement:
"To what part of my above statement are you referring to, when you say, " then it must be true? I know that what I say does mean plenty to you, so you must reject it to protect your belief. However it does have its effects, on your belief. There are absolutely no similarities of religion and science, other than that both consist of human beings. Would you like to give me a few similarities regarding religion and science? You are the one with the closed mind. You have been programmed, and you don't dare let it go. So your mind is shut tight and locked"
I was referring to all you that statement. It's delusional at best, paranoid most likely.
You "know" that what you say means plenty to me? Based on what objective proof? Or is this simply a belief?
You do have an effect on me, that's true. It's been a long time since I have worked in mental health and it's kinda fun chatting with you at times. You remind me of a patient I once had who seriously believed he could change traffic lights by using the heat from his eyes. The weird part was he drove a truck for a living.  They(the police) brought him to the looney bin cause he'd been holed up for three days in his room rigging basketball games by using this same eye heat thing on the basketballs. He was a really nice feller except for that little quirk. We got along fine until I pointed out to him that the game he was currently watching was on a 2 hour tape delay and even the power of this eyes couldn't change the tape. He got really angry and quit talkin to me. lol Delusional folks are interesting... you almost never convince them of their delusions and the best we could offer the feller was to simply not tell anyone else cause they'd think he was crazy.
Let's see... science/religion both come to conclusions based a data sets
science/religion both evaluate that data set and come to some sort of 'collective hunch'
science/religion both have so called "experts" that 90% or more of the population have little to no idea exactly what they are talking about... they simply "trust" the experts.
science/religion both have had some goofs that were later corrected
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#47418 - 07/07/06 09:23 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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My statement:
"rofl So let me ask you... when is a "lying perversion" not false? "
Your statement:
"When the perversion is a premeditated perversion of words and statements it is false. A true perversion is not premeditated and not arranged for a specific purposes"
So a "true" perversion is not false? Let me get this straight, if you really believe that 2+2= 5 then that's not false because it's not premeditated or arranged for a specific purpose?
So then those with religious beliefs who aren't premeditating or arranging for a specific purpose can be as wrong as the day is long and they aren't false!
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#47419 - 07/07/06 09:25 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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My statement:
"Only the most extreme radical fundamentalists believe that they have a corner on "the" truth"
Your statement:
"And just what is it, that you proclaim you have a corner on?. "
Nothing, but I do have an opinion on just about everything!
On behalf of my son, thanks for taking this just one page further to getting those new brake drums.
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