#47720 - 07/18/06 09:46 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Your statement:
I know you were asking a question, devious one. You are pretending that I said that dead men can receive benefits, by deviously asking the question" what benefits do dead men receive
The purpose that drives a devout Jew is to make the world a home for God to abide with his people. This includes taking good stewardship of the land and the animals thereon. Nothing about destruction at all. Some of the greatest humanitarians and medical researchers as well as champions of their fellow mens' rights have been Jews.
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#47721 - 07/18/06 09:55 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Davyd
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Your statement:
".So what benefit do you think dead men receive from you vilifying them? "
You obviously know the answer to that. Play your stupid games with somebody else
No, I wanna play with you cause if I play with you I get money.
What I am convinced about is that to restore public faith in the party funding system we need:
a) at least some element of state funding or match funding to create a more level playing field between the parties and reduce the need for donations and loans and thereby insinuations of "buying influence"...
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#47722 - 07/18/06 09:57 PM
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Your statement:
I have never whistled in the dark because of fear. I whistled in the dark to find my dog
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#47723 - 07/18/06 09:58 PM
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Your statement:
I am the only hippopotamus, that can do such. I am a spiritual hippopotamus, you must believe in me; than you will know that what I say is true
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#47724 - 07/18/06 10:00 PM
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Your statement:
Don't try to escape. The question was, what was the information in that lie? I don't see any of the gods at work around me, because there are no such things
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#47725 - 07/18/06 10:01 PM
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Your statement:
The information please
You are beginning to repeat yourself.
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#47726 - 07/18/06 10:05 PM
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Your statement:
Oh, now I cut off discussions. What else are you going to pretend that I have done? Did you object, when I cut off the discussion? You don't seem to have any trouble continuing discussions, so how could I have cut it off?
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#47727 - 07/18/06 10:09 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Your statement:
Back to an already covered subject again. Then you must have a problem with yourself, for that is precisely what you have been doing with atheist. There is a difference between individuals, and members of a criminal organization
The generation, preservation, and dissemination of information and ideas are primary functions of an academic institution. They are also primary functions of intelligence organizations. From this functional congruence have stemmed relationships between the academic and intelligence communities which in many instances are both proper and beneficial. There are, however, profound differences between the two communities which invest such relationships with potential for harm to the integrity and/or effectiveness of both. Open and unfettered exchange of information and ideas is the life blood of the academic community. For the intelligence community, on the other hand, secrecy is an inescapable fact of life. Furthermore, reports of questionable activities of intelligence organizations must influence consideration of relationships between such organizations and an academic community. It therefore is appropriate for the University to establish policies regarding issues of concern in relationships between itself and members of the University community and intelligence organizations in order to protect its interests in any such relationships.
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#47728 - 07/18/06 10:13 PM
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No, first of all, it is becauseit it does not matter. Secondly is is because I have no way of knowing who they are, and No way of counting them.
I watched a show today on the History channel. Did you know that Stalin also went delusional and paranoid towards the end?
And that has, of course, helped to ruin everything. But the Israelis have supreme power, locally, politically. They have supreme power economically. They've, for a long time, had absolute supreme power militarily. For them not to say where they think their border should be, and to keep fooling us and building strange walls that go outside the perimeter of any likely state, makes the moral equivalence thing a little harder to decide with an absolute.
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#47729 - 07/18/06 10:18 PM
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Your statement:
"So how many of us are you willing to continue to abuse, villify and condem? A percentage here will do."
Name just one person I have" abused". (Back to the demonizing). If you keep coming back and sitting on a hot stove, you are burning your own ass
What does this mean? It means that throughout the night, I had to put up with my mother saying in her Americanized Israeli accent "See? The cookies were a BIG hit. Everybody LOVED THE COOKIES. Right? Didn't you like the cookies? See, she LOVED the cookies. What do you say?" I then pulled out an Acme brand shotgun, put it to my head, and pulled the trigger to reveal a little flag that said "Thank you."
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#47730 - 07/18/06 10:24 PM
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Your statement:
As I have said, I embrace all the hues of the spectrum, you must understand that that has to include the gray
The 2006 Summer Games will be held at the College of New Jersey (http://www.sonj.org/index.php) on Saturday & Sunday, June 3-4, 2006. Once again SHRP and NJDS will host the Spe-cial Olympics Special Smiles® program. Each athlete that visits Special Smiles will receive a dental screening, dental hygiene instruction, nutritional education, blood pressure screening and if indicated, a mouth guard. Lunch and CE credits will be provided to volunteers. Please complete the Special Olympics Volunteer Registration Form and return it to Avril Lecky no later than May 10, 2006. Spend a fun-filled day helping some very special people. Plan to attend!! (Registration Form available on page 9)Special Olympics - Wellness Park Programs are encouraged to participate Students, faculty, staff, family members and friends are encouraged to attend and volunteerGrant from ADHA for "second Chance Smiles for Seniors" was approved The Dental Hygiene program under the direction of Carolyn Breen, EdD, RDH, Professor and Rita Krajac, MSHS, RDH, Assistant Professor working with ; Alumni: Theresa Benson, Karen Finnerty, Stacey Schwed-Hochstuhl, Dawn Sousa Department of Allied Dental Education, received the Rosie Wall Community Spirit Grant from the American Dental Hygienists Association.These four alumni of the Dental Hygiene program started the project in their Capstone Seminar course in their final term, fall 2005. They all returned to refine the project and develop it into a grant proposal for submission. Through this grant the program will be providing preventive services for underserved seniors from 2 day care programs in Somerset County during the fall 2006 term in Scotch Plains. This program will start to address some of the access to care issues in the area. Alumni News!! Contd. on page 4
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THURSDAY, MAY 18 12-1pm, The Institute for Complementary and Alter-native Medicine, ICAM WELLNESS LECTURE 2006 SERIES will a sponsor a presentation on Acupuncture by Cynthia Paige, MD, Assistant Professor at NJMS Department of Family Medicine, on the Newark cam-pus, room TBA. Light Refreshments will be served. RSVP to Liz Cunha, cunhaem@umdnj.edu, 973-972-8592. MONDAY, MAY 2212thAnnual Poster Day12:30 – 2:30 PM Stanley S Bergen Building—9thfloor MONDAY, MAY 22Annual Recognition DinnerPines Manor, Edison, NJ6:00 pm Invitations were mailed to all faculty, graduating stu-dents and staff. Call 973-972-4496 if you did not receive yours. If you did not receive an invitation but would like to at-tend, please call. If you do not fall in one of the groups above and would like to attend call. This event is com-plementary to all graduating students, honorees, volun-teer (not paid) faculty and staff. SATURDAY& SUNDAY, JUNE 3 & 4Special OlympicsCollege of New Jersey Students, faculty, staff, family and friends invited Volunteer form available on page 9 Temporary Changes in the Dean’s Office With the many changes in the Dean’s Office, Newarkcampus, the following temporary changes are in effect: Contracts :Donna Cifelli Employment-faculty and staff related matters: Avril Lecky and Jimalyn JaingaGrants (faculty related): Maria Constanten Grants-(student related): Cherlyn Scantlebury Newsletter:Donna CifelliSHRP NEWS PAGE 4 ISSUE MAY 2006 Reminder: Please send information for SHRP’s monthly newsletter to: SHRPnews@umdnj.edu no later than the date on page one. Information received after may be placed in the following month’s newsletter.Upcoming EventsKudos to the Dietetic Internship Program Fifteen graduates of the Dietetic Internship Class of 2005 took the Registration Exam in the period July 1, 2005 to December 31, 2005 as recently reported to us by the Commission on Dietetic Registration. All fifteen of those gradu-ates passed the exam for a pass rate of 100%. This is above the National Pass Rate of 83% for first time test takers who were graduates of Dietetic Internship Programs. The total mean scaled score for the UMDNJ Dietetic Internship graduates was 31.1 which was above the national mean scaled score of 27.8 for all first time test takers. Our graduates’ mean scaled food and nutrition sub-score was 18.1, which was also above the national average of 15.6. The mean sub-score for food service systems and manage-ment was 18.2 for UMDNJ graduates, and this was also above the national average of 15.6 and was a significant im-provement for UMDNJ graduates. One additional graduate of the class of 2005 took the exam in January of 2006 and she reported to us that she also passed the exam but we will not receive report of that until July 2006. Know the true value of time; Snatch, seize, and enjoy Every moment of it - Philip Dormer Stanhope
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A Success StorySent to Clint Dozier, Director of Pre College Programs Hello Mr. Dozier I hope this e-mail find you in good health and happy times. Perhaps you do not remember me, but I attend your Pre-College program and the Urban Scholars program from 1990-1995. Wow! It is amazing how time just seems to fly by. My name is Kathleen Calixto and was a student at the time in Science High School and later graduated from Rutgers University in New Brunswick. Currently I am a chiropractor and also teach anatomy and physiology at ITM, at Pomp-ton Lakes which has a program also at UMDNJ - Newark. I am writing, not only to say hello, but to seek your assistance. While being one of your students, I remember having the opportunity of observing cadavers in the gross anatomy lab. I would like to provide this opportunity to the stu-dents that I currently teach. I would like to share with my students the visual aspect to further learn about the human body. Before the semester is over I would really love to have my students experience this opportunity. If you are able to help me with this or guide me in the correct direction, I would greatly appreciate any assistance. Thank you for your time. Dr Kathleen Calixto From: David ScottTo: breen@umdnj.eduSubject: David Scott Military duty in Iraq— Graduate of the Dental Hygiene Program....1998...Hello Dr. Breen this is David Scott, I apologize for the delay but here is some of the background information on my 10 month tour of duty in Iraq. I was assigned to the 50th MSB (Main Support Battalion) 42nd Infantry Division out of Jer-sey City, New Jersey. My unit first reported to Fort Dix in the summer of 2005 for extensive training in urban warfare and convoy attacks , training that took months to complete. After the training was complete we flew to Kuwait for proc-essing and additional equipment issue and then off to Iraq we went. In order to get to our area of operation which was (FOB Spiecher) Tikrit we had to convoy for 3 days and nights with weapons out the window and gun trucks in front and behind the convoy. Once we got to our base ( FOB Speicher ) we relieved the unit that was there and set up equipment, in my case my job was to set up a fully functional dental clinic with all portable items. If it were not for the training I received at UMDNJ and the experience I received in the work force I feel this task would not have reached the level itdid, you see I was the only licensed hygienist in our battalion and the only one with the skill set to get the job done. Dur-ing my tour I received many awards one being an Airforce Achievement medal for my work with the Airforce in their time of need, others were special coins presented to me by various military leaders including a Command Seargent Ma-jor Of The Army and a Commander of a helicopter unit that helped keep his pilots in the air. The clinic in which I worked was a secondary clinic to the CSH ( Combat Support Hospital ) clinic also on the base but we had our share of wounded to come through our doors. Sometimes convoys on their way to our FOB ( Forward Operating Base ) would come under attack usually by IED's ( Improvised Explosive Device ) and would receive treatment from some of the finest medics, Physician Assistants, & doctors that I have ever worked with. We worked on everyone ( medical and dental ) from coalition troops to Iraqi locals often teams of people from our clinic would go into the towns and do humanitarian missions. The dental clinic was equipped to handle all dental problems with the exception of more complicated dental procedures, those patients were sent to another base for that. About 7 months into my tour I was sent to another FOB (FOB Danger ) also in Tikrit that was one of Sadaams many palace complexes, I got a chance to see with my own eyes theexcessive lifestyle that Sadaam Hussain lived while in power. Since the base was in the city of Tikrit we were hit with bombs on a daily basis and had our share of wounded. Many people do not regard dentistry as very important part of medicine but as was proved by myself and several dentists, dentistry is and always will be a large part of soldier readi-ness. Dr. Breen please have Dr. Kuhl read over this to make sure there is nothing against army policy or to sensitive for pub-lic eyes. If you need any more information or would like pictures please let me know. Again thank you very much. Seargent David ScottSHRP NEWS PAGE 5 ISSUE MAY 2006 Student update contd. on following page Alumni News!! Contd. From page 3
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ASAHP: Scholarship of Excellence Award The due date for nominations is May 15th. For more infor-mation: http://asahp.org/excellence_award.htmOnline Graduate Survey for May 2006 graduates Maria Constanten An e-mail notification was sent to all May graduates withinstructions to complete the Graduate Survey inWebCT. The online survey is completely confidential and open 24 hours from April 4ththrough May 19th. If you do not receive notification and are eligible to graduate, or need the survey go to shrpSurvey@UMDNJ.eduCongratulations and thank you in advance for your support. Presentation Lynn R. Miller, JD, Director of Education, Institute for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, presented "Complementary & Alternative Medicine: An Overview" to the Complementary and Alternative Medicine Associa-tion at UMDNJ- School of Osteopathic Medicine, Strat-ford, New Jersey on March 21, 2006. Robin Eubanks, Ph.D. – presented an overview of SHRP’s efforts in implementing cultural competency throughout the School. “Caring for New Jersey’s Multi-cultural Population: A Cultural Competency Summit”was sponsored by the Bildner Family Foundation NJ Campus Diversity Initiative, UMDNJ Cultural Compe-tency Project, and the NJ Medical School Hispanic Cen-ter of Excellence. The summit was hosted at the New Jersey Hospital Association, Princeton, NJ – April 24, 2006. Adam Perlman, MD, MPH, Executive Director of the Institute for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, presented: “Complementary and Alternative Medicine: A Historical and Research Perspective”. Lehman College, City University of New York, Bronx, NY, April 3, 2006. Adam Perlman, MD, MPH, Executive Director of the Institute for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, presented “Complementary & Alternative Medicine: What the Lupus Patient Should Know”. Lupus Founda-tion of America, Springfield, NJ. March 25, 2006. Adam Perlman, MD, MPH, Executive Director of the Institute for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, accepted the nomination to join the Board of Trustees of The Healthcare Foundation of New Jersey, Livingston, NJ. April 2006. Laura Byham-Gray, PhD, RD, Assistant Professor,Clinical Nutrition was an invited speaker at the Philadel-phia Chapter of the American Society of Parenteral and Enteral Nutrition (PASPEN) on March 22nd, to present the topic of “Energy Estimations Across the Spectrum of Kid-ney Disease.” Carolyn Breen, EdD, RDH, Professor, Allied Dental Education was installed as the new President of the New Jersey Dental Assisting Association. Honors Revised Faculty Benefits and Information Available! An overview of The Faculty Benefits and Information was revised by Human Resources Dept. This information can be found on the UMDNJ portal—Faculty and Staff Re-sources—General folder. Laura Byham-Gray, PhD, RD, Assistant Professor, Clini-cal Nutrition. Scope of practice in renal nutrition. Journal of Renal Nutrition. 2006; 16(2): 160-167. Michele Wein, PhD and Felicia Stoler, MS, RD both of the clinical Nutrition. Food and Nutrition Misinformation. Journal of the American Dietetic Association, April 2006.Publication Faculty Highlights! SHRP NEWS PAGE 6 ISSUE MAY 2006 Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation. - Robert F. Kennedy Make Change Happen !! Student Update
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New Jersey Dental Assistants Association Annual Session — April 8-9, 2006 Somerset, New Jersey SHRP NEWS PAGE 7 ISSUE MAY 2006 Congrats on your two first place and one second place posters Congratulations to the Dental Assisting Class of 2007
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SHRP Faculty Retreat June 14, 2006 2006 SHRP Annual Retreat: “Refresh and Renew: It Can Happen to You!” WEDNESDAY, JUNE 14THFROM 9-3:30 PM Location, Logistics, and Lodging…. We have been receiving some enthusiastic responses to the 2006 SHRP Annual Retreat. We hope everyone will be able to attend. We would like to post some additional information since we have been receiving a few requests and inquiries. LOCATION: The Retreat will be held at the University Inn at Rutgers, which is a beautiful facility located in the New Brunswick area rich in history: http://univinn.rutgers.edu/history.jsp You can find directions to the Inn at: http://univinn.rutgers.edu/directions.jsp. While there, take a virtual tour and check-out the surroundings and menu options http://univinn.rutgers.edu/photo_tour.jsp We think you will be pleased. LOGISTICS: Parking is free, and plentiful! You will receive a yellow parking card so that you can park without diffi-culty. No tickets, no meters, no worries.DRESS CODE: Please come in casual attire, remember this is a Retreat! We are not responsible if your business suit gets dirty! LODGING: There is lodging available at the University Inn. The Standard Room rates are $94.00/single occupancy or $105.00/double occupancy or Deluxe Room rates are $114.00/single occupancy or $125.00/double occupancy. (And no, this isn’t a reimbursable expense). RSVP: We will be sending-out an e-vite (electronic invitation) to everyone in mid-May, PLEASE RSVP BY MAY 30THSO THAT WE CAN BEST MAKE OUR PLANS AND ARRANGEMENTS. QUESTIONS: Please direct any questions to the Chair of the Committee on Faculty Development at laura.byham-gray@umdnj.edu or 856.566.6451. SHRP NEWS PAGE 8 ISSUE MAY 2006 Employee Update Faculty & Staff Changes Welcome to Zi-Wei Chen, M.D., the newest member of the ICAM staff. Dr. Chen, an experienced Research Sci-entist, was a UMDNJ employee in the Dept. of Neurosci-ences and then worked with Dr. Gould Fogerite in Pa-thology, then BioDelivery Sciences International, Inc. for ten years. Dr. Chen will be working on an NIH grant subcontract for sub unit HIV vaccines with Dr. Gould Fogerite. He and Dr. Gould Fogerite will also be collabo-rating with Dr. Michelle Wien of the SHRP Nutrition Program to determine levels of various inflammatory and diabetes related markers for Dr. Wien’s clinical trial on the effects of almond consumption on pre-diabetes. New Jersey Network (NJN) News (Trenton): Sara LeeKessler, health and medical correspondent at NJN, inter-viewed three SHRP employees about the outcomes of ahealth and wellness pilot program. The Worksite Wellness Program was designed to provide UMDNJ faculty and staff with an opportunity to partici-pate in a 12-week program focused on improving healthy lifestyles. Dr. Riva Touger-Decker, Felicia Stoler and Crystal Cassagnol-Jones, all of SHRP, were inter-viewed. The segment aired during the news on Thursday, April 27, and on Friday morning, April 28. In the News! Employee of the Year! Congratulations to Patricia Kelly, from the Stratford Campus who is the 2005-2006 recipient of the Employee Rec-ognition Award. Nominees were Kathy Lawrence, Mabel Nowell and Cherlyn Scantlebury all from the Newark Campus. All are winners! To be nominated is a great honor but unfortunately only one can get the award.
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#47731 - 07/19/06 03:28 PM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Your statement:
"Bayesian theory and Bayesian probability are named after Thomas Bayes (1702 — 1761), who proved a special case of what is now called Bayes' theorem. The term Bayesian, however, came into use only around 1950, and it is not clear that Bayes would have endorsed the very broad interpretation of probability that is associated with his name. Laplace proved a more general version of Bayes' theorem and used it to solve problems in celestial mechanics, medical statistics and, by some accounts, even jurisprudence. Laplace, however, didn't consider this general theorem to be important for probability theory. He instead adhered to the classical interpretation of probability.
Frank P. Ramsey in The Foundations of Mathematics (1931) first proposed using subjective belief as way of interpreting probability. Ramsey saw this interpretation as a complement to the frequency interpretation of probability, which was more established and accepted at the time. The statistician Bruno de Finetti in 1937 adopted Ramsey's view as an alternative to the frequency interpretation of probability. L. J. Savage expanded the idea in The Foundations of Statistics (1954).
Formal attempts have been made to define and apply the intuitive notion of a "degree of belief". The most common application is based on betting: a degree of belief is reflected in the odds and stakes that the subject is willing to bet on the proposition at hand.
When beliefs have degrees, theorems of probability calculus measure the rationality of beliefs in the same way that the theorems of first order logic measure the rationality of beliefs. Many regard degrees of belief as extensions of classical truth values (true and false).
The Bayesian approach has been explored by Harold Jeffreys, Richard T. Cox, Edwin Jaynes and I. J. Good. Other well-known proponents of Bayesian probability have included John Maynard Keynes and B.O. Koopman."
Your point?
Your statement:
"They are no more directed than you are directed by the American Athiest Association. "
What rules and regulations do atheists have, what atheists tells all other atheists, how to live there lives? What is the moral code of atheism?. What is the ultimate goal of being an atheists? What rewards are given to atheists if they behave? Who threatens people, for not being atheists? Etc. etc.. It should be obvious to anyone who is sane, that atheists are not directed, and that Christians are completely directed even unto their thoughts. By the way I already said that I am not a member of any atheists organization
Your statement:
(How quickly you have ignored my answer to that falsity. Christianity is both an organization and an organism )
"Can't be both... one is death to the other. "
Nonsense
Your statement:
"Sounds rather judgemental of you."
Of course it is judgmental
Your statement:
"As I said, bigot"
Speaking the truth, is not being bigoted. I am not being bigoted, when I say all carnivores kill
Your statement:
"Either it's true and happened or it didn't."
Are you questioning your Bible
Your statement:
"(Is that the best excuse you can come up with? How can anyone or anything, interfere with your God's perfection? )
"Grace "
Don't just drool, answer the question
Your statement:
"Just as God displays His love for us."
There is no God. However you are agreeing with me, that there are ways that people display their motives
your statement:
"I knew it would be boring before I posted my first reply to you, but I can tolerate boring at $1/page."
Than stop making it boring
Your statement:
(That's ridiculous, none of the other religions had any problem naming their religion. It would not be like trying to name each breath you take, do you change your religion every time you take a breath? )
"I'm not speaking for any other religion.
" Yes, it changes... organism remember"
You are talking about naming a religion, stop trying to pervert the subject Of course organisms change, all things change. Again religion is both an organism and an organization. I did not say either one did not change. Stop the devious falsifying. Try living in truth for once; Christian
Your statement:
"The rest of the paragraph didn't make much sense either... are you having problems with your voice recognition software? "
The rest of the paragraph makes complete sense, like all my statements make complete sense. One typographical error cannot remove the sense or the meaning of at paragraph no matter how desperate you are
Your Statement:
"You've confused yourself with two separate discussions. Firstly science did not say... and secondly other scientists did know about the Piltdown Man and refused to say anything"
I have not confused anything, you are just continuing your devious games. Science did not say what creep? It would be interesting to know who those scientists were who knowingly kept information from the public, and how they would benefit from such. It is obvious why the church withholds the truth in every way possible, including terrorism and murder
Your statement:
"Well let's not forget, that you accused me of being chained to science, and asked me what I disagreed about with science. I told you what I disagreed with. So you were wrong when you said I was chained to science"
"You are chained to science.
Y" ou only told me about some individuals you disagree with"
What individual scientists did I mention, liar? They were scientific conclusions, and I disagreed with them. Now you explain, how I am chained to science
Your statement:
(I was not quoting individuals, I was quoting science reports. Why do you keep up the twisting and lying?)
"And who wrote the report? "
I don't know and I don't care who wrote them. That has nothing to do with it
Your statement:
(I do not believe you.
"That's actually more paranoid than what I had given you credit for."
That(I do not believe you) was in relation to another part of your statement. You added it to the rest of my statements, to deceive and pervert my statement. You asked whether I thought you continued making individual posts, for some reason that you suggested. I then gave you the reason I thought you were doing it, in this statement, without the ( I do not believe you) .(You are replying in a series of individual posts, to make it easier for others to fill in and pretend it is you )
Your statement:
"Sounds like you live in a miserable existence to live among so many liars. "
Yes indeed existence has been made far more miserable for everyone, because of the lies, etc. of the criminal scum ,that control humanity
Your statement:
(No the proof is in your statements and the tactics you use)
"I've repeatedly stated there is no "proof" for the existence of God... it is a matter of belief."
My statement above was in relation to your deviousness and lines, which are being continually exposed in every statement you make. It had absolutely nothing to do with proof of your God. Of course there is no proof of your God, because there is no such thing. Yes indeed it has to be a matter of belief, when you are not living with the truth. Belief is a glorified lie. The acceptance of Belief, is accepting, dignifying, and encouraging insanity
Your statement:
"And again you've never stated what you find so bloody horrible about feeding/clothing or housing the poor."
I reply to this statement at least twice, liar
Your statement:
"I have no idea if they did or not. It's not exactly on my top 10 things to read about."
What is on or is not on your list, is just an avoidance of answering the question
Your statement:
"Perhaps your religion is about controlling the whole world"
As you know, I have no religion
Your statement:
"And again, you are the psychic not me so you would know what the Pope wants not me"
The pope and all the rest of the religious leaders.
Your statement:
"When you talk about common decency you are talking subjective judgement again aren't you..."
That isn't the point. Ask the victims, how important subjectivity or objectivity was or is to them
Your statement:
"Are you sure no one did quit the church or condem it's actions."
Don't play games. Many people have quit religions for assorted reasons, mostly to join another one, or start their own. If any dared to quit a church simply to reject that churcheshideous crimes, it certainly wasn't enough to make a difference. The majority if not all, should have quit the church 8ut than again, only decent people would do that, evidently there were not that many decent numbers of that church
Your statement:
(I have answered that at least three times, possibility, past experience, and desire )
"Sounds like belief to me."
That was in response to your question of what I base my hope on,. Yes you can pretend that anything sounds like religion to you
Your statement:
"What did the church do yesterday that was criminal?"
I have no way of keeping track of its crimes.. But it's obvious crimes that it keeps on committing, are its continuing attempt to take over this government, the use of deception and lies in its programming of children and adults, it's use of its tax-free status, for political purposes, etc.
Your statement:
"Is that lie as in falsehood or lie as in horizontal position?
" The only thing I have denied is a knowledge of middle age Church history."
I will never take your word for that
Your statement:
(It is to be blamed for committing the actions, for allowing the actions, for benefiting from the actions, for not protesting and leaving the church, for denying its crimes past and present, for the defending and supporting of their evil religion )
""It" really isn't a proper way to refer to fellow human beings.
" An excellent example of where your misguided thoughts about organization and organism have left you confused."
A proper way to refer to human beings, is not the subject. What are my " misguided" thoughts about organization and organism?
Your statement:
"Ever read early American history"
What does American history have to do, with your pretensions of any similarity in science and religion?
Your statement:
(What does what I disagree with science about , have to do with your false comparison of science and religion )
"You remind me in many ways of a fundamentalist Baptist who blindly follows whatever that group says to believe. You only tell me about what you disagree with regarding a preacher from a different group."
A completely irrational statement. I disagreed with scientific reports given to the public, not with any preacher from a different group, scientists are not preachers.. It is you religious believers, who blindly follow whatever their religion says.
Your statement:
(They did follow the Bibles instructions, it calls for murder, destruction,, destruction of societies, war, pain and what, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc)
"They did all that to Galileo?
Did somebody say they did all that to Galileo, you must be imagining that
Your statement:
"Sounds like an ideal way to explain to me.
" Few is a relative term...
" How many exactly knew about it? How many exactly protested?"
That repeated and answered question is completely ridiculous. Again it is impossible to know how many, and again obviously there was not enough to make any difference. The majority of Christians should have objected to what was going on, and left the church. .
Your statement:
(You don't need anyones name, to say that whoever did it was wrong and evil., do you? And sleazy one I am not talking about just one pope, one time, or one place. I am talking about one religion )
"All that and you still didn't tell me who it was... I doubt you even know for all the claims to have so much knowledge about these things."
I did not tell you what what was liar? What were you replying to, that I supposedly did not answer?
Your statement:
"So based on the actions of one person you condem an entire group of people who weren't even alive when these events happened"
Yes, and you are constantly ignoring my statement of why
Your statement:
(It does not matter what would be different. Stop trying to get off the subject. Crimes are crimes and crimes of that nature should never be accepted or excused, no matter what the outcome.)
"So if your great grandfather stole some food you'd be willing to condem him to this day."
What a loaded, stupid, and unrelated statement. I would of course always say what my grandfather did. I would never deny it. But Your attempt to equate a desperate, starving individuals crime of robbery of food, with the hideous crimes of an all powerful Christianity imposing itself on, and using the citizens it conquered to get more control, more power, and all of the best this world has to offer, is grotesque
Your statement:
(It was significant enough , for you to make sure you put it in their )
"Put what in where?"
You know the answer to both, evil clown. You are hoping that I will forget, or have to go back to check. The word was (based) on not knowing. I said there was a difference between something being (based) on not knowing, and simply not knowing. These are all the many tactics you use to confuse, to attempt to make me not reply to you, and to get away from being pinned down to anything specific. These tactics display your glaring foolishness , stupidity, and evil
Your statement:
(Your religion includes the thoughts of your belief, as well as the physical components of your belief, they are one and the same. Your Thoughts about your involvement in anything, are parts of that involvement )
"I disagree, thoughts are one thing... physical action is another. "
As your right leg is one thing and your left leg is another. If you were not completely insane, it would be obvious that your thoughts about your involvement in anything, are part of that involvement. There is no way that even the insane such as yourself, can deny that without exposing how severely your mental problem affects you
Your statement:
(What has that to do with your lie, that I said atheist were mentally ill? )
"Why did you say it if it was a lie? "
Your statement that I said atheist were mentally ill, was a lie. You are so twisted and evil, that you think your lying benefits you.
Your statement:
"So you just believe you won't fly off the earth, if trust is not needed."
No you twisted freak, I don't know whether I will fly off the earth or not, it does not concern me period, it has nothing to do with any belief and trust is not necessary. If it happens it happens
Your statement:
(Not once and for all, but over and over again. You fake are pretending, that I equate and do not talk straight forward. You exist in your sewer of lies, and think everybody lives there.. You are pretending that I did not directly say what I trust, while at the same time accusing me of being chained to science, when I listed straightforwardly science as one of the things I trust.)
"Again you say you trust science but when pressed you hesitate. "
Pressed?? I say I trust science and I do. Disagreeing with something or someone you trust, is in no way ceasing to trust them. But of course in your convoluted mind, nothing can make sense
Your statement:
(I never said moron, liar, that I would not fall off the earth. I said that it is so unlikely, as not to be bothered with. You are trying to pretend I have beliefs,(And of course you have failed completely at that.)
"So you offer no proof, no facts... just subjective beliefs about my character... typical "
What has that got to do with my statement above, that you are supposedly replying to?
There is nothing subjective about your lies, tactics, and deviousness, that are continually displayed in this reality
Your statement:
(Well you seem to be extremely interested in that" crap". That" crap" is so important to you, that it is necessary for you to reply. Yes I heard of the boy who whistled in the dark, to pretend he was not afraid. What has that to do with anything, other than your attempting to say that I am afraid of something particular. Rest assured that there were many boys, who whistled in the dark precisely because they were not afraid . What is it you think I am so afraid of? )
"I'm interested in the money Mr Soul is paying me."
That (might) be one of the reasons you keep replying to my " crap", but it certainly is not the main reason
Your statement:
"I have no idea what you are afraid of... it was a neat little story and I wondered how you would respond to it."
Now you know how I responded to it
Your statement:
(Is it your religion that makes you such a devious, criminal, liar, and distorter of statements, or are you just completely insane? I never said that you said I would fall off the earth; you pathological liar. You asked me if or why I was not afraid of falling off the earth, deviously trying to prove that I had some kind of faith or belief. I said you scum that, the chance of my falling off the earth is too small a matter to be bothered with )
"Did I say fall or did I say fly? "
Get of the nonsense, it does not matter which you said
Your statement:
"Kinda like Jesus eh"
No, my light is truth, his so-called light was taken from past religious lies, mixed with some Buddhist teachings
Your statement:
"If filthy does not describe the opposite of clean then what does it refer to? What does based have to do with it?
" So we have the plain fake, the filthy fake... any other types of fakes I should know about?"
Again (based) cannot be disconnected from what is ( based) on it. I did not say (based) had anything to do with calling you a filthy fake. You are implying that, in your deviousness. You know full well moron, that I was using filthy as an insult not as it is defined. Just as when one calls someone a jackass or a jerk, etc. you are the very definition of most of the other words that can be put before fake
Your statement:
"Believing subjective statements to be facts is arrogant, especially when they are your statements. "
They are objective facts, before they become my statements
Your statement:
"So Christians are to blame and athiests get a free ride... do you even consider how silly this sounds?"
Do you realize how ridiculous it sounds, when you twist everything around. Atheist do not get a free ride (if and when) they commit a crime. Your perversion of blaming atheist for what communists have done, and your constant excusing and trying to soft pedal the heinous crimes of your terrorist religion,by comparing their criminality with other criminals to pretend that they were not as bad; is sickening
Your statement:
(They may not be interested in the names of popes, but they are certainly interested in what those popes did . When you are judging something or someone, the decision must include its past actions. You attempt all kinds of nonsensical ways, to protect and deny for those criminals you wish to protect. And you wish to protect them, because you are of the same mentality )
"Knowing their names would be an indicator of really knowing what they did or didn't do."
That is absolutely ridiculous. Knowing their names cannot be any possible indication of their criminal acts. Only After it has been found that criminal acts are committed and it is found out who committed them, do the names have any importance whatsoever
Your statement:
"So based on the treatment of different races, cultures, women and the disabled you'd say that America is an evil empire."
Americans objected to the evils their government was committing, and in great numbers put themselves on the line to end those evils; and in many cases succeeded. That can happen in a democracy.. That cannot be compared with the dictatorship and mind control of the Christian religion
Your statement:
"You can't handle the truth!"
Because I can handle the truth, I do not have to play make believe. People like you who play make believe , show that you cannot handle the truth
Your statement:
"You are a psychic battling windmills.
" I am makin money."
See how you are using windmills, as I used filthy . The money (if you are indeed getting any) is secondary
Your statement:
"All the same, please stay away from my chickens you pervert. "
And how does anybody know, what you are doing with your chickens?
Your statement:
(I don't have to didn't say it. My question is why you are asking me, rather than your psychiatrist. That has nothing to do with the subject. But of course your tactic is to constantly attempt to sway from the subject.)
"I'm an adult, I can choose what subject I wish to address. If this topic is to difficult for you"
Of course you can. But still I am asking you, why you did not ask your psychiatrist rather than me?
Your statement:
""So the fact is you do want to harm me!
" and you like having sex with chickens!?!"
(First a display of your paranoia, and second a lie. You are a sick sick man )
Your statement:
"It's not paranoid if people really are out to get you. Your words demonstrate your desire to hurt Christians."
They demonstrate only my hatred. Whether I will act on my hatred, is another matter. They are indeed two separate matters. If you cannot recognize that, that is your problem. But of course this is just another of your attempts to demonize me
Your statement:
"You don't like having sex with chickens but do it anyway? Like an addiction of sorts"
No, I cannot imagine liking sex with chickens,
Your statement:
(Perversion was not the subject, and whether I will get onto that subject or not, is another question. What action am I justifying?. You make a ridiculous false statement and then add words similar to mine to it. (Are all over this thread) That does nothing but show, how much you want to confuse the reader. You have so many devious tactic you use, to try to escape being pinned down. But I won't let you get away with any of it )
"yea yea, just as long as you keep posting.
" Perversion is the subject I wish to discuss.... if it's to tough for you or you feel unqualified... by all means let me know. "
No, I don't want you to be able to escape, the subject of religion
Your statement:
(I said, (Perversion was not the subject,) now you in your pathological lying and your word addition tactic, have added the word" my". I have never said ," my" perversion was not the subject. I said perversion was not the subject. And perversion is and was not the subject, religion is the subject. Come out and say that I have a perversion, and say what it is )
"Ya know for a guy who swears he doesn't wanna talk about perversion.. you sure talk about it a lot."
The above is not talking about perversion, it is making sure you don't get away with, adding words
Your statement:
"What you refer to as lies is a religious database and apparently to your way of thinking it's unlimited. Lies must be data or there wouldn't be a database, so-called(it's a subjective statement with no basis in reality). "
Yes lies are unlimited. There is no database about gods and beliefs, they are nothing but lies, that was the subject. The data of the rules, regulations, expenses, titles, buildings, pronouncements, directories, songs, paraphernalia etc. etc. etc. are human setups, and are completely void of any data concerning religious belief and gods. Again subjectivity does have a basis in reality
Your statement:
"Isn't it amazing how you can come up with the most destructive thing on the face of the earth... and you give them a pass when it's used to kill millions."
Scientists come across truth, processes, etc. that enables humanity to create and do many things. To blame them for what is done with that knowledge, is like blaming automobile manufacturers and gun manufacturers for the criminal acts of those who use them for crimes. The criminal's are those who use the inventions and creations of science to hurt humanity, like the Christian Church. I do not give them a free pass, you are the one trying to give the Christian church a free pass
Your statement:
"IF God is responsible for all the evil that is here because He created this world, then surely science must be equally responsible for their creations."
Scientists cannot control what is done with that knowledge. Your God controls everything, does he not ? Are you so mindless, that you cannot tell the difference
Your statement:
(I know you were asking a question, devious one. You are pretending that I said that dead men can receive benefits, by deviously asking the question" what benefits do dead men receive )
"That's great! You can read... now answer the freaking question."
If you could read you could see in the above statement, (You are pretending that I said that dead men can receive benefits,). Now very slowly, can you understand that that shows, that I am angry that you pretended that I said a dead men can receive benefits. So continue slowly, if I am angry that you pretend that I said that, it has to be because I did not say that. That answers your question all by itself, but I answered it more directly then that also. I said that legal death benefits and gifts can only be given to the estates or relatives of a dead person. The answer that you deviously pretended did not exist, was no
Your statement:
"The purpose that drives a devout Jew is to make the world a home for God to abide with his people. This includes taking good stewardship of the land and the animals thereon. Nothing about destruction at all. Some of the greatest humanitarians and medical researchers as well as champions of their fellow mens' rights have been Jews."
There is good in all of humanity, the problem is that when those who are good are members of a religion, the religion gets the credit for that good. The good is provided by nature as is the bad
Your statement:
".So what benefit do you think dead men receive from you vilifying them? "
(You obviously know the answer to that. Play your stupid games with somebody else )
" Stumped again and so easily.
" No, I wanna play with you cause if I play with you I get money"
So you are still delusional. You have never stumped me, and you never will.
Your statement:
(I am the only hippopotamus, that can do such. I am a spiritual hippopotamus, you must believe in me; than you will know that what I say is true)
"You also appear to be a egotistical and delusional hippo, not that there's anything wrong with that mind you."
egotism is the substance of spirituality. And off course spirituality is delusional, I am trying to help you understand that
Your statement:
"I'm sure it matters to those you would harm"
And since I intend no harm to anyone, I say again it does not matter. And of course I cannot harm the popes or any of the rest of the dead
Your statement:
"I watched a show today on the History channel. Did you know that Stalin also went delusional and paranoid towards the end?"
No I did not, but I know of a priest and a Catholic woman who were delusional. A dictator who is not paranoid, is not likely to last very long
Your statement:
"Mr Soul"
I did not abuse him or you any more than I was abused by your lies, you deviousness, your twisting and tangling statements, your adding words, and your unconnected one line statements, intended to make it harder for me and everyone else, to know what you were referring to. And his bringing up some sort of psychological definition, in an attempt to make me look like I had a mental problem. You both should stop trying to play victim, I am sure that many others are your victims
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#47732 - 07/21/06 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by I:
Your statement:
"Mr Soul"
I did not abuse him or you any more than I was abused by your lies, you deviousness, your twisting and tangling statements, your adding words, and your unconnected one line statements, intended to make it harder for me and everyone else, to know what you were referring to. And his bringing up some sort of psychological definition, in an attempt to make me look like I had a mental problem. You both should stop trying to play victim, I am sure that many others are your victims[/QB]
Don't let the bastards wear ya down.
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#140036 - 11/13/08 03:57 AM
Re: The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
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Your statement:
"Mr Soul"
I did not abuse him or you any more than I was abused by your lies, you deviousness, your twisting and tangling statements, your adding words, and your unconnected one line statements, intended to make it harder for me and everyone else, to know what you were referring to. And his bringing up some sort of psychological definition, in an attempt to make me look like I had a mental problem. You both should stop trying to play victim, I am sure that many others are your victims
Is it strange we could change? We don't know; that's why we ask them.
VVV
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#140039 - 11/13/08 05:59 AM
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Good morning kids. Play time again? Let it all go. Think/speak for yourself.
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