#44013 - 07/01/06 01:11 PM
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sodapop
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who's using the r-word? you or lisa?
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#44015 - 07/01/06 02:30 PM
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sodapop
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
A-B-U-S-E
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#44017 - 07/01/06 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
Lisa has clearly reported being emotionally abused. Abuse comes in all forms. Emotional abuse can be the most heinous as it is the abuse most difficult to prove.
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#44019 - 07/01/06 04:48 PM
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Greg
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
For Lisa....
Contact these people immediately:
Rape Crisis - Spouse Abuse Center
Would not a PM, email or some other form of personal contact be more apporpriate?
I realize you are trying to help but an intervention through a message board?
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#44021 - 07/01/06 05:25 PM
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sodapop
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
It is not exclusively a rape hotline - it is also a spousal abuse hotline. Randy may not be a spouse, but as a live-in the word applies to the situation accurately.
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#44023 - 07/01/06 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
Lisa has clearly reported being emotionally abused. Abuse comes in all forms. Emotional abuse can be the most heinous as it is the abuse most difficult to prove.
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#44024 - 07/01/06 07:59 PM
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sodapop
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Originally posted by Ron: Originally posted by Xuxan:
Lisa has clearly reported being emotionally abused. Abuse comes in all forms. Emotional abuse can be the most heinous as it is the abuse most difficult to prove.
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#44025 - 07/01/06 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
Lisa has clearly reported being emotionally abused.
Yes, Lisa has clearly been hurt emotionally here, but is that alone abuse in your book? It seems to me that Lisa has reached out to others whenever she has felt emotionally injured, so she recognizes it when it happens.
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#44028 - 07/01/06 09:54 PM
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* You doubt your judgement or wonder if you're 'crazy'.
She recognizes the problem. I don't consider that abuse.
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#44030 - 07/01/06 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by flicka: Originally posted by Xuxan:
Lisa has clearly reported being emotionally abused.
Yes, Lisa has clearly been hurt emotionally here, but is that alone abuse in your book? It seems to me that Lisa has reached out to others whenever she has felt emotionally injured, so she recognizes it when it happens.
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#44031 - 07/01/06 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
Flicka so you're saying that abuse is only abuse if you don't reallize it is abuse?
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#44033 - 07/01/06 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
Part of the "success" of abuse is the person inability to leave.
I do not see Lisa as a weak personality in this respect. These two are only a month or so into this relationship and she appears to be deciding to bail. If she decides to let him stay, she is accepting of his 'abuse'.
We've heard negative reports from her twice. She isn't shy in her thoughts. IMO.
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#44034 - 07/01/06 11:01 PM
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I actually agree with Flicka here. I get tired of hearing the abused person complain about the abuse yet still stay in the relationship because "I love him".
Xuxan, the end result we all want to see is that the person leaves the relationship. There is a point where they can, and that point is always NOW, to think that a woman doesn't have the POWER to leave is like saying "women are weak, women are powerless, women can't control their own lives". Some women simply don't know that, and CHOOSE to stay.
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#44037 - 07/02/06 01:27 AM
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I think Lisa is at this point confused.
What makes me...wanna puke, is when I women express that they simply don't think they don't think another man will love them. I mean come on, how insecure do you have to be to think that the only man on this entire planet that will love you will love you in an abusive way?
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#44039 - 07/02/06 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
I think she is confused because people she thought she could trust are giving her mixed messages.
Janet seemed to do well for herself after sending the dude packing, perhaps if Lisa is to take any advice from anyone Janet would be the perfect person to ask.
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