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#41515 - 07/15/06 12:25 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
corlorde corlorde Member Registered: 04/24/01 Posts: 9246	Quote: To promote the belief in society that Disability is a natural and beautiful part of human diversity in which people living with Disabilities can take pride. I think I'm going to be ill. _________________________
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#41516 - 07/15/06 12:28 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
AL_IN_TX AL_IN_TX Member Registered: 06/30/06 Posts: 116	Quote: Originally posted by corlorde: Quote: To promote the belief in society that Disability is a natural and beautiful part of human diversity in which people living with Disabilities can take pride. I think I'm going to be ill. I am already sick...I want to be a normal 6'3" dude that picks up hookers each night at the local bar after working all day driving a truck. Ain't nothing prideful or beautiful about having an eye-catching severe disability.
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#41517 - 07/15/06 01:21 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
» gpaul « » gpaul « Member Registered: 04/09/02 Posts: 8437 Loc: East Tennessee	I'm with you, but it ant gonna happen.. _________________________
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#41519 - 07/15/06 02:31 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	Quote: Ain't nothing prideful or beautiful about having an eye-catching severe disability. my thoughts exactly. _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#41521 - 07/15/06 03:23 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Peaches Peaches Member Registered: 06/14/03 Posts: 2617 Loc: In a peaceful, easy feeling...	Yeah, my disability is not "natural" nor "beautiful". My wheelchair is pretty slick... but I don't consider it beautiful or a natural way to get about in this world. All in all, this natural disability I have is not beautiful... ... celebrate it? Nawwww... _________________________ "Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet." Bob Dylan
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#41522 - 07/15/06 04:04 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Anonymous Anonymous Unregistered	Quote: Originally posted by Peaches: Yeah, my disability is not "natural" nor "beautiful". My wheelchair is pretty slick... but I don't consider it beautiful or a natural way to get about in this world. All in all, this natural disability I have is not beautiful... ... celebrate it? Nawwww... Well now doesn't this here standard ya'll seem to have (I'm becoming Southern)just clearly contradict all the crapola I received (every time) of past for posting nude or semi-nude gals in their chairs, & how everyone giving me lip about how beautiful they all were. Like the chair and the gimpiness was somethin of "model" material....and should be embraced and with Pride! Yeah...right. :rolleyes: again, you people can't begin to hear the hypocritical nature of your ways on this board. Come on now...let's have one big ol' Nude Parade! btw, susan, I hear what you are saying with your distinction between who we are and what we look like. But I just felt it necessary to display my own :rolleyes: .
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#41523 - 07/15/06 04:11 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
AL_IN_TX AL_IN_TX Member Registered: 06/30/06 Posts: 116	Quote: Originally posted by avory_r: Quote: Originally posted by Peaches: Yeah, my disability is not "natural" nor "beautiful". My wheelchair is pretty slick... but I don't consider it beautiful or a natural way to get about in this world. All in all, this natural disability I have is not beautiful... ... celebrate it? Nawwww... Well now doesn't this here standard ya'll seem to have (I'm becoming Southern)just clearly contradict all the crapola I received (every time) of past for posting nude or semi-nude gals in their chairs, & how everyone giving me lip about how beautiful they all were. Like the chair and the gimpiness was somethin of "model" material....and should be embraced and with Pride! Yeah...right. :rolleyes: again, you people can't begin to hear the hypocritical nature of your ways on this board. Come on now...let's have one big ol' Nude Parade! btw, susan, I hear what you are saying with your distinction between who we are and what we look like. But I just felt it necessary to display my own :rolleyes: . NUDE PARADE! Yes!!! Now you are talking. I bet if I give a party with a bunch of cheap hookers for the guys, and a few studs for the girls, I will get more disabled to show and celebrate, than the folks giving a Disability Pride Parade. Ugh! Actually, that ain't a bad idea. Beer, drugs, loud rock and roll, sex, cigars, in a big Las Vegas hotel room.
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#41524 - 07/15/06 04:46 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wheelchair_diva Wheelchair_diva Member Registered: 01/10/06 Posts: 166 Loc: NJ	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: All of you SHOULD come to the parade and maybe you would start seeing yourself in a different light. I readily admit, I look in the mirror and I hate what I see, but I don't hate who I am. The parade is not about celebrating how beautiful we are, but who we are - what we've accomplished and what we dream - and networking with people to make our dreams happen! What we look like is also who we are. If I look in the mirror and hate myself because I don't look like a Victoria's Secret model then I have issues with my physical image and there is no "pride" about that. I understand your view Xuxan about the Disability pride thing. I agree that if we cannot change what we are then we should embrace who we are. I just don't like to parade it.
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#41525 - 07/15/06 08:14 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Blueonetime Blueonetime Member Registered: 02/26/06 Posts: 136	I'm so glad to hear Corlorde, Al, and Starlight voice what I was thinking. There is nothing cool, prideful, attractive, fun or in any way positive about this dis. (No not even the parking spaces make it in any way a good thing.) What the heck is there to be proud of??? Should I be proud I didn't die in the accident I just broke my freekin back? Should I be proud I didn't off myself and choose to get through every day the best I can? Give me a break. Being physically different and defective is NOTHING to be proud of. It's just something to cope with. Then to parade around so everyone can look at us? Personally I find this whole concept totally confusing somewhat embarrassing and rather distasteful. Of course everyone should do whatever floats your boat, so I hope you all enjoy yourself and get what you hope for out of your pride event. To each his own...
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#41526 - 07/15/06 11:11 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
ParaDude ParaDude Member Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 33855 Loc: United Provinces of America	Quote: Originally posted by corlorde: Quote: To promote the belief in society that Disability is a natural and beautiful part of human diversity in which people living with Disabilities can take pride. I think I'm going to be ill. Finally...something we can agree on entirely. No one I know has any "pride" in being disabled, anyone who does imho is the product of a sick and somewhat pathetic mindset. Pride in thriving despite the disability is ok, proud to be a cripple is another thing entirely. There is NO crip culture. Now Xuxan...don't go complaining that I am picking on you again, I seriously think you post this bullshit to raise a ruckus...something to do with being a needy crip (if you call what you have a disability...I call it "wannabe a crip so I have an excuse to complain" syndrome) _________________________
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#41528 - 07/16/06 01:12 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Linda252 Linda252 Member Registered: 03/15/06 Posts: 475 Loc: Auburn, WA, USA	Gay pride is a bunch of baloney. I see no reason for there to be parades or celebrations because of whom someone chooses to have sex with. If you want to do celebrate that kind of thing, there should be parades for Monogamous Heterosexuals, Swingers, Mistresses, etc. etc....
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#41529 - 07/16/06 01:16 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
nadajoe nadajoe Member Registered: 08/21/01 Posts: 3765 Loc: Middle of the USA	I would like ta go ta Chicago & be a part of it....I think that the NCIL conference is more important because we can talk with senators & see where they "sit" on different bills that have to do with the disabled but this proud to be dis IS better then saying that U are ashamed of being disabled. It's like saying that "black is beautiful" or something like that. It is just rejoyousing in the fact that U are not ashamed of being disabled,,I think. Years ago,,, ppl WERE ashamed of thier disablity! I think we have come a long way in our thinking of ourselves. I am glad that we aren't hid away like our 1800-early 1900 counter parts....we should be proud of the way thoughts of the disabled HAVE changed. I am proud of not being ashamed of my dis! & so should U be. Am I making sense to ya? It's late & I am tired. ,,,joe..
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#41530 - 07/16/06 01:23 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
nadajoe nadajoe Member Registered: 08/21/01 Posts: 3765 Loc: Middle of the USA	"Gay pride"?,,,,,same as "black pride",,,or red pride or dis pride or Italian pride.....same thing! Ask an Indian if he/she is proud to be an Indian. 9 out of 10 would say yes,,,,I bet! If U ever knew an Italian, U know that they are proud to be "Italian stalions". Irish are proud ta be Irish.....same difference,,huh? ,,,joe..
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#41532 - 07/16/06 10:04 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
kimberleyb kimberleyb Member Registered: 06/24/00 Posts: 4386 Loc: cripworld	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: All of you SHOULD come to the parade and maybe you would start seeing yourself in a different light. I readily admit, I look in the mirror and I hate what I see, but I don't hate who I am. The parade is not about celebrating how beautiful we are, but who we are - what we've accomplished and what we dream - and networking with people to make our dreams happen! It would only serve to reinforce my belief that I am absolutely kickass in spite of my disability and it would also confirm my belief that my own path is the best one. I do think there is a crip culture, but it certainly isn't based on pride in any fashion, it stems from common experiences and an essentially common goal of access and inclusion. It's an activism culture that would disintigrate the second our goal was accomplished since those of us who are SANE didn't choose this life. The disability pride movement and concept is laughable in my mind since it celebrates a ridiculous position. I'm proud of my disability? uh huh.. I'm proud of punctuation too! GO COMMAS, THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT APOSTROPHE!! and the only reason I would go to a disability pride parade is to point and laugh at those in the parade since they're obviously there for our entertainment. Pride is related to success for EFFORT and/or results. It's also a third party emotion. We're proud of our children and the children of others. I'm proud of my friends boys - they both won the local snowboarding competition in their age groups. I'm proud of another friend for keeping to his plan of not drinking for 3 months, even though his life right now is getting crazy. I'm proud of the Special Olympics golfers who came out yesterday and SOUNDLY beat the rest of us - not to mention the junior golfers with great swings - the result of EFFORT - practicing, working toward a goal and accomplishing it. Pride in a CIRCUMSTANCE is for the useless, shallow and unsophisticated and/or insane.. I make my dreams happen by WORKING at them - after I plan them.. plan the work, work the plan I do NOT hate what I see. I see myself. Why would I hate myself because of my disability? That is something someone ELSE would feel. Why would ANYONE hate themselves for having a disability? I HATE my disability, I would change it in a second, I would change EVERYONE's if they wanted it, but I'm in no way ashamed or proud of the disability itself. It is what it is and no amount of parading around screaming for rights will ever change society. And frankly, I think it's kind of pathetic and it will be nothing more than a gawkfest. MOST of the SUCCESSFUL crips I know (from quads with vents to amputees) have done what was needed, moved the disability to the chore list and put the success on a personal level where it belongs. So, in short.. ahahhahhahhaaa.. I will not be attending. _________________________ My Life is Better Than Your Vacation http://www.unlimbited.com
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#41533 - 07/16/06 10:23 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by kimberleyb: I'm proud of punctuation too! GO COMMAS, THAT'S THE WAY TO add DO IT APOSTROPHE!! what about question marks? LOLOL
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#41534 - 07/16/06 10:29 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
kimberleyb kimberleyb Member Registered: 06/24/00 Posts: 4386 Loc: cripworld	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by kimberleyb: I'm proud of punctuation too! GO COMMAS, THAT'S THE WAY TO add DO IT APOSTROPHE!! what about question marks? LOLOL I don't trust question marks. _________________________ My Life is Better Than Your Vacation http://www.unlimbited.com
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#41535 - 07/16/06 10:34 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
AL_IN_TX AL_IN_TX Member Registered: 06/30/06 Posts: 116	KimberleyB, You summed it up, even the grammar part, much better than I ever could. Thank you! My concern with these events is that they attract media, and we know what that means. I spend my away-from-home time trying desperately to be as invisible as possible. The less attention I attract the better my day will be. You think the media would rather do a story on Greg Abbot, Texas Attorney General, and probably Governor someday, that happens to have a SCI and confined to a wheelchair, or a bunch of pathetic crips rolling down the street in a parade? This is NOT the kind of attention we need.
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#41536 - 07/16/06 10:35 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Blueonetime Blueonetime Member Registered: 02/26/06 Posts: 136	Wow Kim! That was very well written. You put into words exactly the way I feel. I’m not ashamed of my dis, (although I will admit that I have been embarrassed by it at times), but I’m certainly not proud of it. It’s just like any other terrible thing that happens. You get up, dust yourself off, examine the damage, make things are right as you can, and move on down the road. I don’t think black pride, gay pride and disability pride are the same things at all, but that is a discussion for another day. Thanks Kim for your insightful comment.
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#41537 - 07/16/06 10:40 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by kimberleyb: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by kimberleyb: I'm proud of punctuation too! GO COMMAS, THAT'S THE WAY TO add DO IT APOSTROPHE!! what about question marks? LOLOL I don't trust question marks. hmmmmm... they do tend to ask a lot of questions...
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#41538 - 07/16/06 10:40 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Blueonetime Blueonetime Member Registered: 02/26/06 Posts: 136	LOL Al, You made your post one minute before I did. I also agree with everything you said. You are absolutely correct about the "attention" part.
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#41540 - 07/16/06 11:32 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
kimberleyb kimberleyb Member Registered: 06/24/00 Posts: 4386 Loc: cripworld	Oh, I get it COMPLETELY - I just don't buy it at all. it what it is a mutual pityfest oh, you tried.. good for you.. you've made the critical mistake of thinking that crips need the approval of other crips for existing I don't need ANYONE's approval of my way of life or my existance and when I network, I do it in a business manner, by NEED not by association. _________________________ My Life is Better Than Your Vacation http://www.unlimbited.com
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#41542 - 07/16/06 01:36 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
cbal-craig cbal-craig Member Registered: 04/06/00 Posts: 17675	I can't get into a disability pride parade because I'm just not that proud about my SCI, It has been a nightmare from hell living with it for over 25 years. Plus I hate all the pride parades, who gives a damn if you are Puerto Rican, black, white, gay, Indian, Asian, Irish (like me), or any other kind of person. We do not need to isolate ourselves and I do not believe that these things helps politically. I agree with most of what Kim said anyway. C
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#41543 - 07/16/06 02:08 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
candra candra Member Registered: 05/17/00 Posts: 2877 Loc: Ripon, CA US	I'm proud to be a redhead. Candy
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#41545 - 07/16/06 03:21 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
» gpaul « » gpaul « Member Registered: 04/09/02 Posts: 8437 Loc: East Tennessee	I'm proud I'm Horny biggest part of the day, but I ant proud I got a droopy dick with no honey hole to poke it in..same shitin thang.. _________________________
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#41546 - 07/16/06 03:32 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Peaches Peaches Member Registered: 06/14/03 Posts: 2617 Loc: In a peaceful, easy feeling...	I'm in no way ashamed or proud of the disability itself. I have accepted my disability and have incorporated it into my life; it is a part of me but certainly (exclusively) not who I am. Because I do not feel marching in a parade gives power or validity to disability issues does not mean I live in a closet. Perhaps there are people who need this type of solidarity to reinforce there worth. For them, this is a good thing. But this is not the only way for people with disabilities to be recognized in order to make a strong statement of their needs. _________________________ "Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet." Bob Dylan
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#41547 - 07/16/06 04:15 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MissLiz MissLiz Member Registered: 01/08/03 Posts: 6240 Loc: www.mobilewomen.org	Quote: Originally posted by Linda252: Gay pride is a bunch of baloney. I see no reason for there to be parades or celebrations because of whom someone chooses to have sex with. If you want to do celebrate that kind of thing, there should be parades for Monogamous Heterosexuals, Swingers, Mistresses, etc. etc.... Huh? I love the gay parade! I think it's a semantic thing @ the pride disabled parade. I'm not proud @ my dis, it's part of who I have become. I do not define myself by my disability, although others may. Should there be a parade focusing on those with disabilities. Why not? Maybe the PR dept. needs a new angle. I'd be interested in knowing if attendees are primarily born with a disability or BIG advocates...? On another note. Have fun Susan! I understand the amount of work it must take to organize such an event.
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#41549 - 07/16/06 05:46 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Anonymous Anonymous Unregistered	Wow, do I admire your tenacity, Susan!
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#41550 - 07/16/06 06:03 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	who the hell's proud to be crippled? _________________________
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#41551 - 07/16/06 06:04 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: "I want to be a normal 6'3" dude that picks up hookers each night at the local bar after working all day driving a truck.." if that's your aspiration in life - than I want to be sick, too. then... _________________________
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#41552 - 07/16/06 06:10 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: Gay pride is a bunch of baloney. I see no reason for there to be parades or celebrations because of whom someone chooses to have sex with. see what religion does to ppl? linda, as unacceptable much of the world is toward homosexuality, who would choose it? _________________________
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#41553 - 07/16/06 06:17 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: I'm sorry you guys don't get it. Kim your diatribe of what pride is to you IS what the parade is about. It is about celebrating the accomplishments of others. It is about sharing. i thought that's what we have NM for. _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#41554 - 07/16/06 06:34 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	Quote: Originally posted by MissLiz: Quote: Originally posted by Linda252: Gay pride is a bunch of baloney. I see no reason for there to be parades or celebrations because of whom someone chooses to have sex with. If you want to do celebrate that kind of thing, there should be parades for Monogamous Heterosexuals, Swingers, Mistresses, etc. etc.... Huh? I love the gay parade! me too, altho i've never actually been. no, the gay pride parade IS all about spectacle, as in an "invisible" minority making a public statement of visibility. that's kind of the opposite sort of thing from having a disability, which is often all TOO visible to begin with and - at least for me - something i try and minimalize when i'm out in society, not because it's a source of shame or anything but it IS an imposition. which is why the idea of a parade just seems rather bizarre to me... _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#41556 - 07/16/06 10:47 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
nadajoe nadajoe Member Registered: 08/21/01 Posts: 3765 Loc: Middle of the USA	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: Joe, Actually there are political folk at the parade. There was a senator from California, from Iowa (can you imagine which one), and the several from Illinois. Yoshiko Dart has been to both before. She was the Grand Marshall for the first one. It is an amazing place to do networking with people from all over the country as there is a fair of sorts after the parade with speakers, performers, etc. Lots of Californians come, but over 50% are midwesterners. Several petitions were circulated last year. I can't wait in part because of all the people I will be able to see that I don't see that often now that I don't do the disability conference cicuit as heavily as I used to. I got a big hotel room in Hammond, Indiana - you are welcome to come share it. It is supposed to be big enough for 6 and we are only 2 maybe 3. I'm using free rooms I got from staying in hotels while assessing the buses as a mystery rider - so you don't even need to chip in. Susan,,, I am unable to go this year but I hope that U have the same situation next year,, I would go! Thanks! I think that most ppl have trouble with the name...."Disability Pride". So do I, but I can overlook it. They can't. Call it somethihng else & I bet ppl's attitudes would be different. ,,,joe..
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#41558 - 07/17/06 01:22 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
ParaDude ParaDude Member Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 33855 Loc: United Provinces of America	I think the closest thing you have to a disability is Munchausen Biproxy. The rest of your maladys are self inflicted. I'll bet you a nickel that if you lost 150 pounds or so you'd be able to walk again. _________________________
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#41560 - 07/17/06 02:33 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
GoAnna GoAnna Member Registered: 01/16/06 Posts: 176 Loc: Australia	Quote: Originally posted by ParaDude: I think the closest thing you have to a disability is Munchausen Biproxy. The rest of your maladys are self inflicted. I'll bet you a nickel that if you lost 150 pounds or so you'd be able to walk again. Sheesh Dan...that was kinda harsh.
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#41561 - 07/17/06 02:39 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
GoAnna GoAnna Member Registered: 01/16/06 Posts: 176 Loc: Australia	I doubt I would attend anything thats titled disability pride. The only way sometimes to deal with the sci is to try and blend into society as much as possible, so throwing myself into such an event would defeat everything that I struggle for. I feel it would just further isolate me. Its just the way it is for me.
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#41562 - 07/17/06 08:24 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: Karen - you are actually right on that front - I would have thought that NM would have more affinity tward the parade for that very reason. you guys should get a slogan on the level of "we're here, we're queer; get used to it". we're here, we're crips, get used to it... _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#41563 - 07/17/06 09:31 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
goldenplover goldenplover Junior Member Registered: 06/01/06 Posts: 27	don't go susan! we need you! ignore the loser. Quote: Susan has a Bachelor of Philosophy degree from Thomas Jefferson College, a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology from Grand Valley State University, and a Master of Science degree in rehabilitation counseling from Syracuse University. She has also done extensive coursework in special education at Bank St. College and in Disability Studies through the Center on Human Policy. http://www.dearborn-disabilities.org/susan2.html
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#41564 - 07/17/06 10:07 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
AL_IN_TX AL_IN_TX Member Registered: 06/30/06 Posts: 116	Quote: Originally posted by goldenplover: don't go susan! we need you! ignore the loser. Quote: Susan has a Bachelor of Philosophy degree from Thomas Jefferson College, a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology from Grand Valley State University, and a Master of Science degree in rehabilitation counseling from Syracuse University. She has also done extensive coursework in special education at Bank St. College and in Disability Studies through the Center on Human Policy. http://www.dearborn-disabilities.org/susan2.html All this education and she still does not get it???????? Gee whiz!!!! It finally occurred to me that this "pride" thing is all about Susan's need for attention. Here is a project for disabled that was the best to come along: http://www.rawbeautyproject.com A bunch of babes(babes first) with disabilities laying in the sand showing me their tits!!!! Here is what I hope happens... 1. Someone with real writting skills writes the media to express the views of what I feel is the VAST majority of "real" disabled people in regards to a pride-parade. 2. A few babes quitely joins the parade wearing small wet t-shirts... Susan, I can't believe you don't get it...Is this about you?
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#41565 - 07/17/06 10:56 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
flicka flicka Member Registered: 04/06/00 Posts: 24616 Loc: SLO County, CA - 66.122.77.142	Quote: Originally posted by AL_IN_TX: All this education and she still does not get it???????? Gee whiz!!!! It finally occurred to me that this "pride" thing is all about Susan's need for attention. Please. I'm sure Susan will be the only one in attendance. Just because some don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong, nor does it make it right to gang up on Susan's efforts. _________________________ "A lot of things were acceptable--until we stopped accepting it." -- Al Sharpton '12
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#41566 - 07/17/06 12:50 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	um, flix don't you mean "susan will NOT be..."? _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#41567 - 07/17/06 01:19 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wheelchair_diva Wheelchair_diva Member Registered: 01/10/06 Posts: 166 Loc: NJ	Parades are just "feel good moments". They make me feel like I've been treated like crap, denied services, discriminated against all year and now let's celebrate so you can feel important. Politicians do not get involved with disabilities issues because we have no economical or social power like other minorities do and not because we don't put on feathers and show off on the street (pun intended). Sorry, but I don't think that some little parades will make a difference for us; we need a bigger crip revolution.
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#41568 - 07/17/06 02:36 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
flicka flicka Member Registered: 04/06/00 Posts: 24616 Loc: SLO County, CA - 66.122.77.142	Quote: Originally posted by StarlightAngel: um, flix don't you mean "susan will NOT be..."? It was a weak attempt at being snarky. _________________________ "A lot of things were acceptable--until we stopped accepting it." -- Al Sharpton '12
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#41569 - 07/17/06 02:38 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
SteveGIMP SteveGIMP Member Registered: 03/01/00 Posts: 7672 Loc: The Great Lakes State	Flicka? Snarky? No way!
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#41570 - 07/17/06 07:15 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	Quote: Originally posted by flicka: Quote: Originally posted by StarlightAngel: um, flix don't you mean "susan will NOT be..."? It was a weak attempt at being snarky. snarky doesn't translate well w/out nonverbal cues. _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#41571 - 07/17/06 08:51 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
flicka flicka Member Registered: 04/06/00 Posts: 24616 Loc: SLO County, CA - 66.122.77.142	Very true, Karen. I guess I really don't care enough about this subject to be completely sarcastic one way or the other. I do think Susan received a lot of unnecessary grief for posting a subject that she puts a lot of work into, and one she appreciates. Many others appreciate what she does and just because other posters on this board aren't into it, she doesn't deserve being treated with the complete disrespect shown here. I think wheelchair sports organizations are unnecessary and the Ms. Wheelchair pageant is bizarre, but I still support people's right to participate. _________________________ "A lot of things were acceptable--until we stopped accepting it." -- Al Sharpton '12
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#41572 - 07/18/06 12:46 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Paul I Paul I Member Registered: 02/24/00 Posts: 7913	I guess I think of the concept of disability pride more as stating the position that being disabled does not affect one's need to feel some pride about who they are, what they've done, etc. rather than actual pride in their disability. I agree it is a misnomer and should be rethought as a label for an event. I think the final analysis would be comparing what people who observed it thought it was all about juxtapositioned with what those who participated thought it was all about. Create a survey, Karen! PI _________________________ "...only the shadow knows"
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#41573 - 07/18/06 02:05 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dowdy dowdy Member Registered: 04/12/00 Posts: 3344	Other disability activists that agree with Susan... Nadina Laspina-http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/mar98/pride.htm Dan Wilkins http://www.thenthdegree.com/lit.asp Paul Longmore http://www.ragged-edge-mag.com/archive/p13story.htm Sue Wendell http://www.dawncanada.net/conference/sue-wendell.htm England Tom Shakespeare Most of the posters on the ouch message board. The late, I think, Nikki Barker pingu is missed... Australia Tony Doyle http://www.artsaccessaustralia.org/culture.htm Trevor Harrison Me and most of the other disabled activists.
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#41574 - 07/18/06 06:23 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
corlorde corlorde Member Registered: 04/24/01 Posts: 9246	Sorry you got such grief Susan. It wasn't the intent of my post. I was speaking of the content of the article, and in no way reflects anything negative towards your character. I'll admit that I don't understand the whole, "disability pride" concept but do recognize there are people who might. And if this type of thing keeps people actively engaged, who am I to say anything. I would never roll down the road in a parade but if that's your thing, look straight ahead, march forward, and never look back. Be seeing you, ~Corey _________________________
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#41575 - 07/18/06 12:41 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Paul I Paul I Member Registered: 02/24/00 Posts: 7913	Well said, Corey. _________________________ "...only the shadow knows"
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#41576 - 07/18/06 02:00 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
SeaShelly SeaShelly Member Registered: 02/12/01 Posts: 1917 Loc: South Carolina	If we all agreed, what a boring world this would be. _________________________
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#41577 - 07/18/06 04:40 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Peaches Peaches Member Registered: 06/14/03 Posts: 2617 Loc: In a peaceful, easy feeling...	I also agree with Corey. And I do believe the event carries a misnomer; perhaps "disability awareness"(such as: "Cancer awareness") instead of "disability pride". JMO Peace, peaches _________________________ "Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet." Bob Dylan
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#41579 - 07/29/06 09:47 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: Originally posted by GoAnna: I doubt I would attend anything thats titled disability pride. The only way sometimes to deal with the sci is to try and blend into society as much as possible, so throwing myself into such an event would defeat everything that I struggle for. I feel it would just further isolate me. Its just the way it is for me. that about sums 'MyDisability' feelings. _________________________
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#41580 - 08/14/06 04:09 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: snarky \|?snärk?\| adjective ( snarkier, snarkiest) informal (of a person, words, or a mood) sharply critical; cutting; snide : the kid who makes snarky remarks in class. • cranky; irritable : Bobby's always a bit snarky before his nap. _________________________
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#41581 - 08/15/06 09:07 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by goldenplover: don't go susan! we need you! ignore the loser. Quote: Susan has a Bachelor of Philosophy degree from Thomas Jefferson College, a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology from Grand Valley State University, and a Master of Science degree in rehabilitation counseling from Syracuse University. She has also done extensive coursework in special education at Bank St. College and in Disability Studies through the Center on Human Policy. http://www.dearborn-disabilities.org/susan2.html Good post, I hope plenty of people click that link and find out Susan is a good person. _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41582 - 08/15/06 09:15 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: Karen - you are actually right on that front - I would have thought that NM would have more affinity tward the parade for that very reason. I didn't expect so much negative feedback on your post. People seem to be understanding it completely differently than you do. New Mobility can be a pretty crude n mean bunch sometimes. I hope you keep doing the good stuff you do. _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41583 - 08/15/06 09:19 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by Sylvana: Quote: Originally posted by ParaDude: I think the closest thing you have to a disability is Munchausen Biproxy. The rest of your maladys are self inflicted. I'll bet you a nickel that if you lost 150 pounds or so you'd be able to walk again. What is there about Susan's physical condition that makes you follow her around and insult her about it? She is logical, smart, creative, active in a positive way within the disability community, and honest. The weight of a person is so irrelevant. What really matters is the size of her heart, and the depth of her compassion; and Susan measures up. So STFU!!! Sylvana yeah! shut the fuk up! _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41584 - 08/15/06 02:59 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
ParaDude ParaDude Member Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 33855 Loc: United Provinces of America	Quote: Originally posted by Robert64: Quote: Originally posted by Sylvana: Quote: Originally posted by ParaDude: I think the closest thing you have to a disability is Munchausen Biproxy. The rest of your maladys are self inflicted. I'll bet you a nickel that if you lost 150 pounds or so you'd be able to walk again. What is there about Susan's physical condition that makes you follow her around and insult her about it? She is logical, smart, creative, active in a positive way within the disability community, and honest. The weight of a person is so irrelevant. What really matters is the size of her heart, and the depth of her compassion; and Susan measures up. So STFU!!! Sylvana yeah! shut the fuk up! LOL...Syl's Parrot can speak. Make me dough boy. You are weak-kneed simpleton. Go take a pain med. :rolleyes: _________________________
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#41585 - 08/15/06 03:04 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Stuff it DUDE! dash
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#41586 - 08/15/06 08:11 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Sylvana: What is there about Susan's physical condition that makes you follow her around and insult her about it? She is logical, smart, creative, active in a positive way within the disability community, and honest. The weight of a person is so irrelevant. What really matters is the size of her heart, and the depth of her compassion; and Susan measures up. So STFU!!! Sylvana excellent post, judy! hi, dashing
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#41587 - 08/15/06 08:56 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
SeaShelly SeaShelly Member Registered: 02/12/01 Posts: 1917 Loc: South Carolina	I miss Xuxan...she and I TOTALLY DISAGREED about the sex toy thing LOL...but other than that she had a lot of positive energy to add to this board, and she seemed to be a genuinely kind person. _________________________
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#41588 - 08/15/06 09:00 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
rosio2 rosio2 Member Registered: 11/04/04 Posts: 47	You mean, Susan that you are not really disabled but you are fat? I feel duped - you serve on all these boards becuase yur adopted son has down syndrome? Did I miss something, I thoght you had CP or SB..I though you were legit..."you lied you lied...where is the pride????"
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#41589 - 08/15/06 09:08 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by rosio2: You mean, Susan that you are not really disabled but you are fat? I feel duped - you serve on all these boards becuase yur adopted son has down syndrome? Did I miss something, I thoght you had CP or SB..I though you were legit..."you lied you lied...where is the pride????" then u duped yourself. susan is, indeed, physically disabled - although she doesn't have cp or sb. yeah - shame on her - she adopted a ds child - grow up!
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#41590 - 08/15/06 09:09 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by SeaShelly: I miss Xuxan... so do i, mic.
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#41591 - 08/15/06 11:11 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
rosio2 rosio2 Member Registered: 11/04/04 Posts: 47	Get a grip joy, as far as I can read from these posts, and I rarely follow Susan's threads, it seems she does not have a disablty but is fat. Fat is not a disability, if she does have a disability then what is it? Is her championing people with disabilities because she has a son with down syndrome? Why is that deserving of your comment? Good for her she adopted a child with a disability, does it mean she is an expert now? I don't think so, what is her disability and why is she being seen as the knowing all of people with disabilities? She has good information however she sounds like a religious fanatic shoving it owon our thorats what we need to believe around disability issues...so grow up yourself (just call me molly mature, back at ya, ya fool)
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#41593 - 08/16/06 02:04 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
ævory ævory Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 9657	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: All of you SHOULD come to the parade and maybe you would start seeing yourself in a different light. I readily admit, I look in the mirror and I hate what I see, but I don't hate who I am. The parade is not about celebrating how beautiful we are, but who we are - what we've accomplished and what we dream - and networking with people to make our dreams happen! Well, Susan, if there is anything I have learned from therapy it is that one should NEVER "should on themselves". Over and over I got that. My shrink would say "where does that should come from?" you should (this or that) because someone said you should? how far back does that should go? when did you first think it...hear it? when did it begin and why ....hearing another say you "should" is like trying to guilt someone into something..why would someone try to guilt or shame another into anything (whether it be good or bad)? Maybe if I did what you say I should do I'd see myself in a different light? That doesn't sit well from my perspective. And you have no perspective on me. see how this gets you into trouble on a messageboard?
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#41594 - 08/16/06 02:41 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
jerseychick_dup1 jerseychick_dup1 Member Registered: 01/21/05 Posts: 819	Here's a link for those of you who are into disabled empowerment. http://www.sexsupport.org/mother.html
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#41595 - 08/16/06 05:31 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
LASHB LASHB Member Registered: 05/28/03 Posts: 7213	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: I am sick and tired of all the assumptions you make about me without ever having met me. You are clueless as to what my medical history is or is not. You don't know a single person who has met me. The stupidest thing I ever did was to admit on NM I was fat - or give out any info that would lead you to a photo of me. The fat prejudice you are allowed to exhibit on NM without anyone calling you on it is reprehensible. Being fat has nothing to do with not being able to hear. Being fat has nothing to do with having prosthetic implants in my leg, ankle, and foot. Being fat has nothing to do with one leg shorter than the other. Being fat might contribute to my sleep apnea, but since it preceeds my fatness and it runs in my family I doubt it. Being fat probably contributes to the amount of back pain I have, but not all of it. Being fat probably is the cause of my recently established diabetes which caused the neuropathy I was experiencing - which is thankfully now gone. Being fat certainly contributes to the pain when I walk. But being fat does not stop me from working 40-60 hours a week. Being fat does not stop me from being sought out to do presentation all over the country on disability and sexuality issues. Being fat has not prevented me from raising a severely disabled child to adulthood. Being fat has not prevented me from becoming expert on disability access issues. Being fat has not prevented me from having a long term quality relationship. Being fat does not mean I am not also disabled. Being fat does not mean I don't deserve respect. Being fat does not mean I don't have feelings. Susan does have some disabling conditions beside "just being fat." Additionally she and I have had some conversations and there's a whole lot more going on than what you guys all know. Certainly it's her business what she tells you guys and some things she has chosen not to disclose as is her right. While Susan and I may not always agree on things, I like her. She has lots of good information and goes out of her way to help others. She will be missed here.
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#41597 - 08/16/06 08:20 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
wultk wultk Member Registered: 07/29/06 Posts: 197	That didn't work either. Her profile says: http://www.ideas4all.org Homepage: http://www.katrinadisability.info Interests: http://www.sexsupport.org
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#41598 - 08/16/06 08:40 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Sylvana: Quote: Originally posted by jerseychick: Here's a link for those of you who are into disabled empowerment. http://www.sexsupport.org/mother.html Jerseychick, your link did not work for me. This one will get you to Susan's website. Susan\'s website jerseychick and syl, here is the correct link: A mother\'s narrative: Reflections on life with disability. Quote: When he was eighteen months old I fell and sustained compound fractures of my 4th and 5th lumbar vertebrae, and when he was six I shattered my ankle so severely amputation was under consideration.
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#41599 - 08/16/06 08:52 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
LASHB LASHB Member Registered: 05/28/03 Posts: 7213	Joy, thank you. I had never read that article. Well written and very explanatory.
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#41601 - 08/16/06 12:20 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
jerseychick_dup1 jerseychick_dup1 Member Registered: 01/21/05 Posts: 819	Wops, I am sorry I posted the wrong link: http://www.sexsupport.org/mother.htm
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#41602 - 08/16/06 12:27 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
jerseychick_dup1 jerseychick_dup1 Member Registered: 01/21/05 Posts: 819	Quote: Originally posted by Sylvana: Jerseychick, I want to apologize to you for how I treated you when you first arrived. I didn't give you the credit you deserved, and I am sorry. Sylvana[/QB][/QUOTE] Apology accepted
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#41603 - 08/16/06 12:37 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
LASHB LASHB Member Registered: 05/28/03 Posts: 7213	Jersey, I got page not found when I clicked your link. edited to add the link is gone. I'm really not going crazy.
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#41604 - 08/16/06 12:45 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
jerseychick_dup1 jerseychick_dup1 Member Registered: 01/21/05 Posts: 819	Link to my home page: http://www.katrinadisability.info/julia.html
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#41605 - 08/16/06 02:58 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	I have not always agreed with Susan. But, I feel her desire and hard work for those w/ disabilities a benefit to all. It is rare to find an individual willing to do the real hard work needed to facilitate necessary change. Years ago The Sunshine Wheelchair Athletic Association had a couple who did most of the hard work needed to keep it afloat. There were some personality conflicts w/ some members. When I asked if any of them would give the time and effort needed to run the organization, there were no takers. We all have different life circumstances. Using personal attacks on someone who spends so much time helping others gets us nowhere. We may disagree but, think about what would happen if those interested in helping, all stopped. Remember, I was injured back when they tried denying access to those in w/c's in movie theaters. One early advocacy group I was involved w/ thought it would be great if we could just get someone disabled in the background of a TV show or movie. We've come a long way. We wouldn't be where we are w/out those like Susan willing to work. dash
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#41606 - 08/16/06 03:45 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
nadajoe nadajoe Member Registered: 08/21/01 Posts: 3765 Loc: Middle of the USA	Dash said it good. Dan, U fcked up,,,,again. ,,,joe..
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#41607 - 08/16/06 03:56 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Lola Lola Member Registered: 03/17/05 Posts: 5944	Quote: Originally posted by jerseychick: Link to my home page: http://www.katrinadisability.info/julia.html loved your page, julia and i too miss susan here hugs, lola
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#41608 - 08/16/06 04:55 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Dan has a few blind spots and one of them is people who are overweight. He believes that all anyone has to do is eat sensibly and exercise to reach and maintain a slim body. I agree in the majority of cases. Of course he completely ignores that some people can't exercise for weight reduction because of their disability (like me with PPS) or that some people really do have a metabolic imbalance (for example those with diabetes or thyroid issues) and can't just "cut back" without suffering an adverse medical reaction. For those of us who are not string beans I suggest ignoring him on this subject. (And ignore him on the ADA - he really doesn't know what he is talking about.) :p Love ya PD. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41609 - 08/16/06 05:30 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by LASHB: Joy, thank you. I had never read that article. Well written and very explanatory. u're welcome, laurie. whether susan is disabled or not really isn't the issue, after all. to me, the issue is that she is an advocate for her son, AND THERE CANNOT BE A MORE SELFLESS MOTIVE - SUSAN ADVOCATES OUT OF LOVE. when her son's life is made easier by the efforts of others, then his life is enhanced, and susan is a happy camper. the rest of us just happen reap the benefits of teddy's slowly-levelling playing field, and life is better for all of us. susan exemplifies the definition of a good parent. it's laughable to me that some injury survivor's rudeness can even be defended and excused, but nothing surprises me.
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#41611 - 08/16/06 05:44 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Sylvana: If you are really his friend, Merry, tell him to STFU. I thought I just did ... but not using those words. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41613 - 08/16/06 06:07 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
wultk wultk Member Registered: 07/29/06 Posts: 197	Merry you defined his behavior as a blind spot. Actually what he does is the opposite of failing to discriminate or judge - he discriminates and judges in every post of his I have read. And you place the responsibility for change on others not to pay attention to him, not for him to change. Sounds like you are asking others to shut up not him. Merriam-Webster Main Entry: blind spot Function: noun 2 : an area in which one fails to exercise judgment or discrimination
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#41614 - 08/16/06 06:08 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Dan has a few blind spots... how do u make excuses for someone who belittles those who use antidepressants?
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#41615 - 08/16/06 06:28 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by wultk: And you place the responsibility for change on others not to pay attention to him, not for him to change. Sounds like you are asking others to shut up not him. I offered a suggestion. Haven't you heard - we can't control other people but we can control our reactions to them? I do consider PD to be a board friend but I didn't take him to raise (especially now that he has Judy ) - you guys can play mother hen, I don't want the job. BTW, I also miss Susan - we seldom agreed and at times we could not be on more opposite sides of issues - but I wish she would come back. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41616 - 08/16/06 06:30 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Dan has a few blind spots... how do u make excuses for someone who belittles those who use antidepressants? I take antidepressants for neuropathic pain - I already told you - I ignore him when he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. Why do you let anyone's opinion bother you when they are obviously uninformed of the issues? _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41617 - 08/16/06 06:41 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	spackle away, merry...puttying becomes u.
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#41618 - 08/16/06 06:49 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Merry, We all have personal opinions. Paradudes anti-woman opinion on womens' reproductive rights is one of my pet peeves. Everyones' always wrong but him? I have never understood his strong female followers feeling the need to be his "cheerleaders". Ever confused, dash
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#41619 - 08/16/06 07:05 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Merry, We all have personal opinions. Paradudes anti-woman opinion on womens' reproductive rights is one of my pet peeves. Everyones' always wrong but him? I have never understood his strong female followers feeling the need to be his "cheerleaders". Ever confused, dash dash - I don't think there is anyone here who argues with him stronger on important issues than I do - I don't have to agree with him on everything to consider him a board friend. I don't consider him anti-women just anti-abortion. And yes that is a woman's right issue to you and me but I don't think it is to him. :rolleyes: I am getting the impression that if I don't call him a dirty rotten dog and disown him you guys will claim I support his every thought and deed. I have said, to him and you, that I think he is wrong on several things. Dan, feel free to jump in here at any point as I trash you while others claim I am supporting you. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41620 - 08/16/06 08:51 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
brutalyhonestly brutalyhonestly Member Registered: 12/19/04 Posts: 1795	Quote: Originally posted by Sylvana: Quote: Originally posted by ParaDude: I think the closest thing you have to a disability is Munchausen Biproxy. The rest of your maladys are self inflicted. I'll bet you a nickel that if you lost 150 pounds or so you'd be able to walk again. What is there about Susan's physical condition that makes you follow her around and insult her about it? She is logical, smart, creative, active in a positive way within the disability community, and honest. The weight of a person is so irrelevant. What really matters is the size of her heart, and the depth of her compassion; and Susan measures up. So STFU!!! Sylvana you of anyone should talk. You've been known to follow people around with your insults. STFU is something you should practice yourself.
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#41621 - 08/16/06 08:56 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
LASHB LASHB Member Registered: 05/28/03 Posts: 7213	I just realized PD only bet a nickel! Wonder if that's Canadian or USian...
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#41622 - 08/16/06 11:04 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
benchmom benchmom Member Registered: 09/16/00 Posts: 1640 Loc: at home here in Canada	I am very late catching up on this topic and although I generally refrain from commenting in volitile threads........... Different does not equal wrong, just different. Opinions should be up for discussion, much is learned from a respectful debate, you learn more from someone who disagrees with you than one who agrees. How can you make an educated decision or state an opinion without regarding both sides of the issue? Pet peeves and prejudices , we all have them in some form, the challenge is to not suffer tunnel vision because of them. Because someone is not eloquent in prose does not mean that they lack personality or IQ. A bullshit baffles brains post should be considered carefully before responding Personal attacks in regards to behaviour should be careful, personal attacks because of physical attributes should not be considered. So, my two cents worth
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#41623 - 08/17/06 12:48 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
brutalyhonestly brutalyhonestly Member Registered: 12/19/04 Posts: 1795	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Dan has a few blind spots... how do u make excuses for someone who belittles those who use antidepressants? shall we count up the times you belittled someone?
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#41624 - 08/17/06 09:02 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Merry, We all have personal opinions. Paradudes anti-woman opinion on womens' reproductive rights is one of my pet peeves. Everyones' always wrong but him? I have never understood his strong female followers feeling the need to be his "cheerleaders". Ever confused, dash dan's not antiAnything. maybe he's AntiUnJoy...but anyone who has figured her out is: joy's a vicious pit-bull w/ a pretty collar. she and her gaggle'll peck apart (usually another woman who's better liked or prettier), and when ppl call her on it, she bats her eyelashes, exclaiming, "what lil' ole me?" or she disappears for awhile. _________________________
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#41625 - 08/17/06 09:05 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: Different does not equal wrong, just different. i just love you! _________________________
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#41626 - 08/17/06 09:22 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Merry, We all have personal opinions. Paradudes anti-woman opinion on womens' reproductive rights is one of my pet peeves. Everyones' always wrong but him? I have never understood his strong female followers feeling the need to be his "cheerleaders". Ever confused, dash dan's not antiAnything. maybe he's AntiUnJoy... i never thought of that! oh, the heartbreak - how will i go on...? LOL
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#41627 - 08/17/06 10:12 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
candra candra Member Registered: 05/17/00 Posts: 2877 Loc: Ripon, CA US	Quote: Originally posted by benchmom: you learn more from someone who disagrees with you than one who agrees. very true. Candy
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#41628 - 08/17/06 11:09 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Oh Rob, You're just trying to be the head cheerleader on your dear paradannys fan club. dash
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#41629 - 08/17/06 11:12 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	I'm sorry I brought personalities back into this. I stand by my 1st post on this thread and give credit to Susan for her hard work which in some way may benefit all. dash
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#41630 - 08/17/06 11:54 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	merry, i was also instructed on how i should treat pd and a few others here... i hate it when someone tells me what to do! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41631 - 08/17/06 11:56 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Oh Rob, You're just trying to be the head cheerleader on your dear paradannys fan club. dash and that would make u whose cheerleader? _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41632 - 08/17/06 12:45 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Lola Lola Member Registered: 03/17/05 Posts: 5944	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: give credit to Susan for her hard work which in some way may benefit all. dash i agree 100% with that hugs, lola
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#41633 - 08/17/06 12:54 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Oh Rob, You're just trying to be the head cheerleader on your dear paradannys fan club. dash and that would make u whose cheerleader? No ones John. I will tell you PD once tried to tell me who to and not to associate w/ on the BD. I feel this silly "sides" thing which was going on way before I ever started posting is foolish. No one knows who I do associate w/ except notice I consider Joy a dear friend. If that makes someone not care about anything I write, so be it. dash edit; Rob, I couldn't help myself . When PD wasn't posting you posted several times inquiring where "your paradanny" was. It seemed to me you were looking for him to follow his lead on whatever.
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#41634 - 08/17/06 01:16 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by Lola: Quote: Originally posted by dashing: give credit to Susan for her hard work which in some way may benefit all. dash i agree 100% with that hugs, lola i also agree, i've agreed and i've disagreed with some of her positions, but overall shedone more good than harm..jmo _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41635 - 08/17/06 01:23 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	donna, i know u consider joyt a friend, and that's where your blind support for her comes from. i have argued/gave my opposing view to pd, bh, merrya, and prolly everyone else on this board at1 point or another. i've only talked to two ppl from this board on the phone, and nither post here anymore...oohh, michele posted her # once and dared anyone to call her...i did....lmao _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41636 - 08/17/06 01:29 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Oh Rob, You're just trying to be the head cheerleader on your dear paradannys fan club. dash try to limit yourself to one inconsequencial stooopid post per day...bet you cannot do that. TheFeatherRuffler!
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#41637 - 08/17/06 01:41 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	914.433.6233...call me ishmael...
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#41638 - 08/17/06 01:43 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: edit; Rob, I couldn't help myself . When PD wasn't posting you posted several times inquiring where "your paradanny" was. It seemed to me you were looking for him to follow his lead on whatever. dd, stop the incessant thinking; it leads you nowhere.
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#41639 - 08/17/06 02:12 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Who says I'm trying to get anywhere? daffy ps I'm bad at math
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#41640 - 08/17/06 05:55 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Serendipity Serendipity Member Registered: 08/23/05 Posts: 1975 Loc: Far from the madding crowd	Only just seeing this thread..I did catch it wayyyy back when it started, but then it was about 'Disability Pride' I hope that Susan is still 'around' and is seeing the support that she has. I too have had 'healthy' debate with her and I too respect her for her commitment to disability issues. No one should feel that they have to leave a board because of the actions of others, affterall we live in the 'free' world. _________________________ Better to do something imperfectly than to do nothing flawlessly. -Robert H. Schuller
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#41641 - 08/17/06 06:31 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Lola: Quote: Originally posted by dashing: give credit to Susan for her hard work which in some way may benefit all. dash i agree 100% with that as do i, dashing and lola. perhaps this thread can get back to its intent and not go off on peoples' obvious use of manipulative misdirection. johnboy and rob, since u feel the need to advocate on behalf of paradude as his cheerleaders, then why not start your own thread? i'm sure that he'd be flattered. i don't always agree with susan's opinions - terri schiavo being a prime example. however, when debating the topic, she never slammed my beliefs although we greatly disagreed. she respects others' feelings and responds to their posts in a fair and impartial manner. what can possibly be the point of mean-spirited personal attacks on someone who spends her time advocating for the rights of the disabled?
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#41642 - 08/17/06 06:56 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	It has been my experience that personal attacks have to do with conflicts between personalities and are not generally based on resumes. :p _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41643 - 08/17/06 07:23 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: It has been my experience that personal attacks have to do with conflicts between personalities and are not generally based on resumes. in your opinion, was this reply warranted? Quote: I think the closest thing you have to a disability is Munchausen Biproxy. The rest of your maladys are self inflicted. I'll bet you a nickel that if you lost 150 pounds or so you'd be able to walk again.
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#41644 - 08/17/06 07:37 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	of course it wasn't warranted - several of us are guilty of unwarranted personal attacks - even you joyless. That doesn't alter the fact that most personal attacks are based on personality conflicts. :p _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41645 - 08/17/06 10:32 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
wultk wultk Member Registered: 07/29/06 Posts: 197	If you can't fight fair using logic, facts, and common sense - use personal attacks. Makes sense to me.
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#41646 - 08/18/06 01:01 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
nadajoe nadajoe Member Registered: 08/21/01 Posts: 3765 Loc: Middle of the USA	I would rather have 1 Susan then 100 dans. I have talked her back here a couple times but I will not anymore,,,,& plz, Susan, forgive me...I didn't know what I was doing. ,,,joe..
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#41647 - 08/18/06 07:10 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by wultk: If you can't fight fair using logic, facts, and common sense - use personal attacks. Makes sense to me. is your **** -bone too big? finally KillJoy made a funny! *my opinion, for what it's worth, is susan has etched her place here; she's intelligent, opinionated and we should consider ourselves lucky that she wants (ed) to share herself w/us. in the same vane, susan should have, by now figured out how to be an animal in the zoo. i'd come back if i were you; why let us dictate where you [post?
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#41648 - 08/18/06 07:35 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: several of us are guilty of unwarranted personal attacks - even you joyless. Case in point. :rolleyes:
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#41649 - 08/18/06 08:05 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Wabi just proved my point - classic personality conflict - we don't like each other so the animosity continues. :p FYI - when "us" is used in a sentence it is meant to indicate the writer is including her/hisself in the comment. :rolleyes: I agree Rob, I hope Susan reconsiders and returns. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41650 - 08/18/06 08:13 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: her/hisself "hisself" is not a word -
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#41651 - 08/18/06 08:14 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Wabi just proved my point - classic personality conflict - we don't like each other so the animosity continues. :p FYI - when "us" is used in a sentence it is meant to indicate the writer is including her/hisself in the comment. :rolleyes: I agree Rob, I hope Susan reconsiders and returns. "this bed is on fire w/passionate love; the neighbors complain about the noises above, butt she only cums when she's on top. the therapist said not to see you no more she said you're like a disease without any cure she said i'm so obsessed that i'm becoming a bore ah you think you're so pretty" (TheGroup escapes me).
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#41652 - 08/18/06 08:15 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: her/hisself "hisself" is not a word - hen! c-word! bitch!
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#41653 - 08/18/06 08:17 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: Wabi just proved my point - classic personality conflict - we don't like each other so the animosity continues. The difference is, I managed to address you without hurling a personal insult at you, nor, do I think, did Joy in her question to you.
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#41654 - 08/18/06 08:25 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	rob, perhaps your pinky finger needs to be checked for tourette syndrome.
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#41655 - 08/18/06 08:29 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: her/hisself "hisself" is not a word - thank you joyless - finger slip _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41656 - 08/18/06 08:34 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: rob, perhaps your pinky finger needs to be checked for tourette syndrome. diddle your puppet's prostate w/your beak.
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#41657 - 08/18/06 10:11 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Quote: Wabi just proved my point - classic personality conflict - we don't like each other so the animosity continues. The difference is, I managed to address you without hurling a personal insult at you, nor, do I think, did Joy in her question to you. no, you do that in pms that shows much more class! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41658 - 08/18/06 10:18 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Oh, is that right, JB? Care to relate the content of the PM I sent you? Liar. And that is an insult, in case you didn't notice.
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#41659 - 08/18/06 10:19 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Oh, is that right, JB? Care to relate the content of the PM I sent you? Liar. And that is an insult, in case you didn't notice. So is "liar." :rolleyes: And you do send nasty PMs - that is why I blocked you from sending anymore to me. :p _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41660 - 08/18/06 10:21 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	I never sent you a nasty PM, Merry, and you know it. You are the biggest goddam liar on this entire board.
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#41661 - 08/18/06 10:26 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: I never sent you a nasty PM, Merry, and you know it. You are the biggest goddam liar on this entire board. Perhaps the issue is that you are so crude you consider it "casual conversation" and while others classify them as "nasty." I don't lie. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41662 - 08/18/06 10:26 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Oh, is that right, JB? Care to relate the content of the PM I sent you? Liar. And that is an insult, in case you didn't notice. oh, stfu ralphie--you're such a lil' bitch! give up your pathetic fight for TheCrow's honor; she has none. everyone has her figured out...you cannot put a shine on sneaker. LeftLucy
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#41663 - 08/18/06 10:27 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: I never sent you a nasty PM, Merry, and you know it. You are the biggest goddam liar on this entire board. Perhaps the issue is that you are so crude you consider it "casual conversation" and while others classify them as "nasty." I don't lie. Beyond that, you insinuated I came on to you in PM, another lie. You betrayed a confidence of Mr. Soul and lied about that too. You're a filthy liar. I challenge you to produce the evidence of this "crude" language.
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#41664 - 08/18/06 10:33 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	i'm about to leave for 'accepted'...my friend joe's on his way to get me...butt don'tcha worry, i'll be back! TheAntiKillJoy!
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#41665 - 08/18/06 10:37 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: I challenge you to produce the evidence of this "crude" language. I don't keep PMs - especially from people I don't like. Are you actually trying to spin this to make people believe you don't use the same crude language and bully tactics in a PM that you exhibit openly here? Unbelievable. :rolleyes: _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41666 - 08/18/06 10:39 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Oh, is that right, JB? Care to relate the content of the PM I sent you? Liar. And that is an insult, in case you didn't notice. ok...tell me you didnt call a couple people here in a pm 'slimeballs' and my 'army of slimeballs'.. _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41667 - 08/18/06 10:41 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: I don't keep PMs How convenient for you. The only thing I ever conveyed in a PM was apologize to you for some slight or other on the board in one of my "crude" moments. I was never crude, nasty, abusive or inappropriate to you in a PM. This I swear on the souls of my parents or anything else you choose. You are nothing but a liar for claiming otherwise.
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#41668 - 08/18/06 10:41 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: I challenge you to produce the evidence of this "crude" language. I don't keep PMs - especially from people I don't like. Are you actually trying to spin this to make people believe you don't use the same crude language and bully tactics in a PM that you exhibit openly here? Unbelievable. :rolleyes: ralphie hit on me too (also). Ovary! (okay, byebye)
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#41669 - 08/18/06 10:42 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: I challenge you to produce the evidence of this "crude" language. I don't keep PMs - especially from people I don't like. Are you actually trying to spin this to make people believe you don't use the same crude language and bully tactics in a PM that you exhibit openly here? Unbelievable. :rolleyes: bully tactics for sure...lol...try n tell me what to do in pm... in his friends words 'pffft'..lol _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41670 - 08/18/06 10:44 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Johnboy, I don't need to insult you in PM when I can tell you to go f*ck yourself right here, you big baby. There is nothing lower than splashing a private communication on the public board.
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#41671 - 08/18/06 10:49 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: I was never crude, nasty, abusive or inappropriate to you in a PM. :rolleyes: Just like you never are here on the board. :rolleyes: _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41672 - 08/18/06 10:51 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: *Johnboy, I don't need to insult you in PM when I can tell you to go fck yourself right here, you big baby.** OMG - you edited it to add "you big baby" You are one sick puppy. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41673 - 08/18/06 10:54 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: Just like you never are here on the board. I have certainly been nasty and perhaps abusive on this board... no argument. I have also been so in PM, but never to you, Merry. Inappropriate? Depends on what you meant when you said it. I'm guessing that you hoped there'd be some sexual inference when you leveled that equally false charge at me. Again, never. In any event, what happens on the board has no connection with what happens in PM, except in your imagination.
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#41674 - 08/18/06 10:56 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Johnboy, I don't need to insult you in PM when I can tell you to go f*ck yourself right here, you big baby. There is nothing lower than splashing a private communication on the public board. i didnt say who u insulted....in this case it wasnt me! you called others slimeballs and told me how i should treat or react to some oothers posts! sure there is something lower than splahing private comm on public board... calling ppl names in private comm and not in public...but thats just my opinion! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41675 - 08/18/06 10:58 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: *Johnboy, I don't need to insult you in PM when I can tell you to go fck yourself right here, you big baby.** OMG - you edited it to add "you big baby" You are one sick puppy. lol... _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41676 - 08/18/06 10:58 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Those I described as slimeballs I called worse names on this board. I thought I could talk to you like an adult for a change, absent the childish grandstanding you indulge in on this board... guess I was wrong.
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#41677 - 08/18/06 11:00 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: OMG - you edited it to add "you big baby" You are one sick puppy. And you make it a regular practice of lying through your teeth without blinking an eye. You are one sick bitch.
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#41678 - 08/18/06 11:03 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Those I described as slimeballs I called worse names on this board. I thought I could talk to you like an adult for a change, absent the childish grandstanding you indulge in on this board... guess I was wrong. my childish grandstanding on this board...lmfao u believe your own shit _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41679 - 08/18/06 11:05 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	"my own shit"? Your behavior is on full display daily... I don't need to make shit up.
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#41680 - 08/18/06 11:13 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	yes, my behavior is on full display...i dont go around spouting off and calling ppl names in pm's if i am not willing to do it here. i'll say things in the open or keep it to myself...i'd say that makes me the better man! do tell what i've made up _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41681 - 08/18/06 11:16 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Quote: Just like you never are here on the board. I have certainly been nasty and perhaps abusive on this board... no argument. I have also been so in PM, but never to you, Merry. Which is obviously why I blocked you from sending me more PMs :rolleyes: Give it up - you are abusive and you are crude - most everyone has seen it. Come the next rain, the whitewash you have been trying to slap on with your spin won't do any more good than it is now. :p _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41682 - 08/18/06 11:17 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	It's a good thing you're not a Catholic, JB. You'd have a real problem with the confessional. Forgive me for believing that some thoughts are better conveyed privately. Does one-on-one conversation mean anything to you? Or does everything have to be one-on-many? You haven't made anything up... you implied I did.
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#41683 - 08/18/06 11:19 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: Which is obviously why I blocked you from sending me more PMs The only thing that is obvious is that you are a filthy little liar, and a spoiled brat besides, since you level accusations you cannot back up. And the reason you can't back them up is because they are complete lies.
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#41684 - 08/18/06 11:20 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	oh, ralph, i think that merry just has a crush on u. furthermore, i think that u're being kind not to mention those PMs that merry sent to u!
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#41685 - 08/18/06 11:24 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	I really wouldn't want to discuss such things on the public board.
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#41686 - 08/18/06 11:25 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: The only thing that is obvious is that you are a filthy little liar, and a spoiled brat besides, since you level accusations you cannot back up. And the reason you can't back them up is because they are complete lies. Spin Spin Spin I don't keep PMs. I would be very surprised if most people save PMs. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41687 - 08/18/06 11:27 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: oh, ralph, i think that merry just has a crush on u. furthermore, i think that u're being kind not to mention those PMs that merry sent to u! Sorry joyless, he is the one that follow me here. Please don't be jealous - I'm happily married. Just caught the pm thingy: The PMs that he shared with you? _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41688 - 08/18/06 11:28 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	I'm not spinning anything. I am categorically denying, in the clearest possible terms, that I ever said anything of an improper nature to you in a PM: crude, nasty, abusive, inappropriate or otherwise. I am unequivocally calling you a liar for accusing me of same. I am challenging you to produce evidence of your lies. That's all I'm doing... no spin involved.
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#41689 - 08/18/06 11:29 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: I really wouldn't want to discuss such things on the public board. well, of course u wouldn't - so may i elaborate? (and, yes, she looked pretty much as i envisioned - those pigtails were a surprise, though!
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#41690 - 08/18/06 11:30 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: Sorry joyless, he is the one that follow me here. I think I was here long before you were, sweetie. Quote: The PMs that he shared with you? Can you not read English, Merry? That's your name, right? Quote: those PMs that merry sent to u!
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#41691 - 08/18/06 11:32 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Just caught the pm thingy: The PMs that he shared with you? oh, no - he didn't share - now, relate - maybe...but the pic? priceless.
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#41692 - 08/18/06 11:33 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Categorically deny away. I can live with your posturing and indignation and be quite happy without your PMs. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41693 - 08/18/06 11:35 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: It's a good thing you're not a Catholic, JB. You'd have a real problem with the confessional. Forgive me for believing that some thoughts are better conveyed privately. Does one-on-one conversation mean anything to you? Or does everything have to be one-on-many? You haven't made anything up... you implied I did. i am catholic and if u dont know that...you really dont pay attention one-on-one conversation means something to me with someone i respect...i do not respect u and have not respected u for some time now...i've made no secret of that! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41694 - 08/18/06 11:36 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: i'd say that makes me the better man! aren't u the boy who compared himself to jaes?
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#41695 - 08/18/06 11:37 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Hopefully you'll understand if I assure you that my life's mission is not to make you happy. Hence, I think I can go on in the absence of PM communication with you. You are still a liar for saying what you have about my PMs to you, and you will remain a liar until you can back up your lies. It would be so much easier for you to simply admit that I treat you like the piece of excrement you are on this board, but not in PM.
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#41696 - 08/18/06 11:38 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: i'd say that makes me the better man! aren't u the boy who compared himself to jaes? Aren't you the girl that has been compared to a bird? _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41697 - 08/18/06 11:39 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: one-on-one conversation means something to me with someone i respect...i do not respect u and have not respected u for some time now So you would compromise the principle of confidentiality depending on your level of respect for the person with whom you converse? That in itself is not very respectable, sir.
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#41698 - 08/18/06 11:39 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: It would be so much easier for you to simply admit that I treat you like the piece of excrement you are on this board, but not in PM. Have you worn that shovel out yet? _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41699 - 08/18/06 11:41 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: i'd say that makes me the better man! aren't u the boy who compared himself to jaes? Aren't you the girl that has been compared to a bird? aren't u the girl who made public mr soul's confidence to u and then lied about it?
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#41700 - 08/18/06 11:42 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: Aren't you the girl that has been compared to a bird? Why don't you put up your pic on your profile, and we'll see who looks more like a bird?
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#41701 - 08/18/06 11:42 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: i'd say that makes me the better man! aren't u the boy who compared himself to jaes? the only reason i said that...as i said when i post that was i couldnt understand many of jaes post just as u say u have trouble understanding my posts... dont try and make it something it wasnt... i didnt know jaes! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41702 - 08/18/06 11:43 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Quote: Aren't you the girl that has been compared to a bird? Why don't you put up your pic on your profile, and we'll see who looks more like a bird? share, merry! share!
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#41703 - 08/18/06 11:44 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: It would be so much easier for you to simply admit that I treat you like the piece of excrement you are on this board, but not in PM. Have you worn that shovel out yet? To deal with your ample leavings, I was thinking more backhoe.
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#41704 - 08/18/06 11:46 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: [aren't u the girl who made public mr soul's confidence to u and then lied about it? Nope. But if you want to keep stirring the pot over something past and done with, stir on. Is it tag team time? Rush and Rove tactics though _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41705 - 08/18/06 11:47 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Why don't you put up your pic on your profile, and we'll see who looks more like a bird? share, merry! share! Gee thanks but no _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41706 - 08/18/06 11:49 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	What makes you think that the person you so deeply wronged with your blabbing and lying about it is past and done with it? Quote: Is it tag team time? A tag team gives you a better chance than I ever had with you and your football team.
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#41707 - 08/18/06 11:50 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: What makes you think that the person you so deeply wronged with your blabbing and lying about it is past and done with it? Quote: Is it tag team time? A tag team gives you a better chance than I ever had with you and your football team. The ramblings of a sad and lonely man. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41708 - 08/18/06 11:52 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	I am neither, but how you extract either idea from what I said up there is truly puzzling. I am a bit disappointed that someone, even someone as shallow as yourself, would see fit to score a few points by telling outright lies about me.
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#41709 - 08/18/06 12:14 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Wabi - You are disappointed that someone finds you abusive - who in last few pages of this thread alone you have described as "one sick bitch," "the biggest goddam liar on this entire board," "a filthy liar," "a filthy little liar, and a spoiled brat besides,"piece of excrement," and "shallow" - why would that person have any sway at all on how you feel? Next Spin cycle coming up! _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41710 - 08/18/06 12:24 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	I'm disappointed that a clever person such as yourself doesn't have more in her arsenal that cheap lies. Even when caught with your little hand in the cookie jar over the Mr. Soul affair, you came up with some cockamamie explnation about a "guess" rather than simply admit you let slip something you really didn't mean to. Is it better to portray yourself as a confidence-betrayer, which everyone now knows you are? I'll bet the dog ate your homework a lot, too.
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#41711 - 08/18/06 12:30 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Oh man! That lie just doesn't sting like you want it too. If TJ still has a problem, then TJ can address it with me. What do you care? Oh thats right, spin control _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41712 - 08/18/06 12:32 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: i'd say that makes me the better man! aren't u the boy who compared himself to jaes? the only reason i said that...as i said when i post that was i couldnt understand many of jaes post just as u say u have trouble understanding my posts... dont try and make it something it wasnt... i didnt know jaes! why did u even bring him into your discussion - because "shrub sux!" didn't apply? Quote: many here didnt understand jaes posts...then when he passed most eveyone praised his posts...now i liked jaes, but his posts were different...imo
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#41713 - 08/18/06 12:32 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	What do I care? I consider him a friend... something you clearly know very little about.
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#41714 - 08/18/06 12:35 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: Why don't you put up your pic on your profile, and we'll see who looks more like a bird? share, merry! share! Gee thanks but no i don't blame u - dermatologists must've been hard to come by - my sympathies -
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#41715 - 08/18/06 12:43 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: What do I care? I consider him a friend... something you clearly know very little about. Well don't count on me taking any lessons from you. :p _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41716 - 08/18/06 12:43 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: [aren't u the girl who made public mr soul's confidence to u and then lied about it? Nope. But if you want to keep stirring the pot over something past and done with, stir on. do u really think mr soul thinks that it's "past and done with"? merry, u betrayed that man's confidence, and u're still lying - makes u a 200+pounds-of-cute-in-a-199-pound-bag liar :p
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#41717 - 08/18/06 12:45 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: dermatologists must've been hard to come by Actually I have a GREAT dermatologist - if you are ever this way I can give you his name and number. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41718 - 08/18/06 12:46 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: What do I care? I consider him a friend... something you clearly know very little about. Well don't count on me taking any lessons from you. :p You could do worse than have me for a friend... your loss.
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#41719 - 08/18/06 12:46 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by corlorde: Quote: To promote the belief in society that Disability is a natural and beautiful part of human diversity in which people living with Disabilities can take pride. I think I'm going to be ill. If you knew anything at all about evolution, naturally occurring birth defects (so called defects) are what have enabled countless species to survive in new, and ever changing environment that previous generations could not survive. Do some real research and you'll realize What I'm talking about. What's beautiful is the genius of creation. Beauty is not just about what we see, or observe. It's also about creativity, and wisdom... Perfection. The human race could never have survived this long without our natural tendency to Mutate. (yep, the same word used to describe how a virus becomes resistant to new antibiotics.) Just like a virus, we must have "mutants" or the species as a whole could become extinct. I like the way the movie "the matrix" compares us to a virus, it's true and it's also a double edged sword. Human personality/character/behavior can also be described as kindof a double edged sword. Some of us can be really ignorant and at the same time discover the most important principles in physics and psychology. Our survival as a species depends on the really weird people like me for example. Maybe instead of “only the strong survive” it’s “only the really weird and different survive” That could explain why most new generations seem so “crazy” or just plain “weird” to us so called grown ups. KIDS THESE DAYS! is a good example of older generations tempering the progress of humanity. I’m pround to be weird, and wouldn’t want to fit in everywhere I go. Too many crazy people. Maybe todays “Crazy people” will be tomorrows heroes. This calls into question the definition of words like strong, or weird. Makes sense to me, but I’m kinda out of the ordinary. And I finally understand why that makes me feel more valuable as a person instead of just some freak to be avoided. I’m not more valuable than the next person, but I have the capacity to help people and humanity in ways I never realized, just by being my true self, true to myself, and honest. Humility, open mindedness, and willingness to admit my own mistakes are important charactoristics. I admire the courage and willingness of Susan to keep doing the good work she does. And posting about it here is especially valuable. This community can't be judged by the most outspoken people. A lot of them are here just to feed their hungy ego's. Or for entertainment. People like Susan, IMHO are here to serve. Not just the disabled part of humanity, but humanity as a whole. I hope ya don't let people who missunderstand slow you down Sooz, Thanks for working so hard at what you do. I've known you a long time and I keep getting more respect for you every time I read a post or reply from you. Robert PS I don't think that birth defects that cause suffering are a good thing, that would suck. But everything really does happen for a reason, so finding something good in almost anything is possible. _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41720 - 08/18/06 12:48 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: merry, u betrayed that man's confidence, and u're still lying And you know this how exactly? He told you? DId he share the supposed PM I don't have any memory of? Wait though, if it exists and he shared it with you that would be betraying a confidence wouldn't it? _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41721 - 08/18/06 12:48 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Actually I have a GREAT dermatologist - if you are ever this way I can give you his name and number. if i'm ever that way, then i'm on the wrong way.
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#41722 - 08/18/06 12:49 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Robert! This has now become a sniping thread - have some respect and quit trying to get back on topic. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41723 - 08/18/06 12:51 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: merry, u betrayed that man's confidence, and u're still lying And you know this how exactly? He told you? DId he share the supposed PM I don't have any memory of? Wait though, if it exists and he shared it with you that would be betraying a confidence wouldn't it? he told the board. are u calling mr soul a liar?
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#41724 - 08/18/06 12:51 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	Quote: And you know this how exactly? He told you? DId he share the supposed PM I don't have any memory of? Wait though, if it exists and he shared it with you that would be betraying a confidence wouldn't it? You are a woman of such limited imagination, Merry. Did it ever occur to you that he could simply convey this information to a friend without "sharing" a PM he had with someone else, namely you? I guess in your world the only way information passes from one person to another is through deception or betrayal.
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#41725 - 08/18/06 01:01 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: he told the board. are u calling mr soul a liar? And I told the board I didn't. If TJ wants to discuss it with me I will - but not anymore with you two. :p FYI If the two of you are attacking my character and calling me names I know I am doing just fine because I sure don't want others to think I would have .... people like you as friends. Later, I have to get some work done. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41726 - 08/18/06 01:03 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: many here didnt understand jaes posts...then when he passed most eveyone praised his posts...now i liked jaes, but his posts were different...imo THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO YOU SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT U CANT UNDERSTAND MY POSTS..ERR SOMETHING LIKE THAT..damn, i should of taken the advice of 1 of those 'slimeballs'(wabis word not mine) advice and not get in a pissing contest with askunk, AGAIN. i took a 2week break, mayb i need longer! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41727 - 08/18/06 01:05 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: And I told the board I didn't. what else didn't u do? hmmmmmmm?
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#41728 - 08/18/06 01:05 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	On the contrary, dearie, it is you who attacked my character by attributing things to me than I never said to you in PM. The name I call you is that which you are -- liar -- for spewing these untruths. You don't know me, you never have and you never will. You know what you think you know based on the venom somebody we all know fed you about me and you so gullibly swallowed. You don't know the first thing about "people like me".
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#41729 - 08/18/06 01:06 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: i took a 2week break, mayb i need longer! when?
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#41730 - 08/18/06 01:19 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: It's the complete opposite of a pityfest. That's what you don't understand. Months ago Kim left this web site, I wonder why she came back after having such contempt for so many of the people here, even the New Mobility organization. Bored? Anyway Susan, you're a fine human being and I hope you don't spend too much of your energy bickering with people who just don't understand. I believe it's better to be useful and happy than to make some angry person think their as wrong as they actually are. It's kindof a waste of energy. If you read enough of Kim's posts you'll see that she does indeed do a lot to get important things done for the disabled community. But I have also noticed she could use some humility and maybe a much more open mind when it comes to people who have anything to say that she doesn't agree with. I'm glad she's still around, honest. She can be pretty funny sometimes. I'm probably pretty funny in a goofy and different way too, I say funny stuff on purpose usually, sometimes I have brain farts too. Especially if I forget to proofread! sheesh. You should see what I almost posted LOL. Too bad this post got all mucked up by little flame wars and egomaniacal zanyness. It’s sorta funny how petty people can be though, huh? Peace n keep up the good work. Robert _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41731 - 08/18/06 01:34 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	robert, u r correct, i have at times been petty! like i said i shouldnt have got in pissing contest with a skunk. i hope susan comes back also. _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41732 - 08/18/06 02:43 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: i took a 2week break, mayb i need longer! when? okay, i officially hate you! ralphie's an okay dude, but he seems silly trying to kiss the lipless (over and over again).
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#41733 - 08/18/06 02:48 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	I never tried to kiss you, Rob.
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#41734 - 08/18/06 02:58 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: 914.433.6233...call me ishmael... hey rob, whose number is this? _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41735 - 08/18/06 03:06 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	64 Rob, I don't think there is any reason as to why bad things happen. I believe what we do w/ the results is what is important. I do think the whole world would stop w/out people being different. The differences are what make life interesting, therefore conflicts arise. In general, I do think a different thread should have been started before it became a forum for those who will never see eye to eye swayed it so off topic. I feel I contributed and am guilty. Though, I bet paradude is getting a good laugh. This is exactly what he thrives on. His physical abilities, "motivational speaking", while berating others confounds me as much as those who constantly feed his ego. He, so quick to critise certainly isn't fault free. He says he doesn't speak to promote anything pro helping the disabled. His main claim to fame is overcoming his drug (bad enough he admitted on the BD to shooting coke b/tween his toes) and alcohol addiction. But, at the same time has let pressure sores get bad enough for surgery. His personal attack about Susan is how this thread went astray. He was relentless in chasing Susan around this board to pick on. I could possibly respect him if he could see further then what benefits himself or gives him cheap thrills and he didn't try to play puppet master on NM. I would venture a guess this site is about the only connection he has w/ anyone physically disabled. dash edit; this is my opinion
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#41736 - 08/18/06 05:09 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: 914.433.6233...call me ishmael... hey rob, whose number is this? my cell.
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#41737 - 08/18/06 06:36 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: 914.433.6233...call me ishmael... hey rob, whose number is this? my cell. u did not answer last night! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41738 - 08/18/06 06:49 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: quote: Originally posted by sodapop: 914.433.6233...call me ishmael... hey rob, whose number is this? my cell. u did not answer last night! i keep the cell on vibrate. you can call my home phone: 914.481.8682 _________________________
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#41739 - 08/18/06 06:53 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	i dialed/called twice said u were unavailable... contrary to what 1 person has said, i am not a liar! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41740 - 08/18/06 06:54 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: quote: Originally posted by sodapop: 914.433.6233...call me ishmael... hey rob, whose number is this? my cell. u did not answer last night! i keep the cell on vibrate. you can call my home phone: 914.481.8682 pillowtalk, boys? LMAO
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#41741 - 08/18/06 07:03 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: Robert! This has now become a sniping thread - have some respect and quit trying to get back on topic. Whoops, umm, okay _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41742 - 08/18/06 07:06 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: i took a 2week break, mayb i need longer! when? okay, i officially hate you! ralphie's an okay dude, but he seems silly trying to kiss the lipless (over and over again). LOL? what the heck does kiss the lipless mean? _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41743 - 08/18/06 07:32 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: pillowtalk, boys? LMAO jealous? nice talking 2 u rob..now its off 2 da bar _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41744 - 08/18/06 08:38 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Dee L. Dee L. Member Registered: 07/30/04 Posts: 92 Loc: Montreal, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: In general, I do think a different thread should have been started before it became a forum for those who will never see eye to eye swayed it so off topic. I feel I contributed and am guilty. Though, I bet paradude is getting a good laugh. This is exactly what he thrives on. His physical abilities, "motivational speaking", while berating others confounds me as much as those who constantly feed his ego. He, so quick to critise certainly isn't fault free. He says he doesn't speak to promote anything pro helping the disabled. His main claim to fame is overcoming his drug (bad enough he admitted on the BD to shooting coke b/tween his toes) and alcohol addiction. But, at the same time has let pressure sores get bad enough for surgery. His personal attack about Susan is how this thread went astray. He was relentless in chasing Susan around this board to pick on. I could possibly respect him if he could see further then what benefits himself or gives him cheap thrills and he didn't try to play puppet master on NM. I would venture a guess this site is about the only connection he has w/ anyone physically disabled. dash edit; this is my opinion hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - but at the same time you can consider joyt your friend - and ignore the totally "mean and evil" way she treats others on here (not once but over and over again). Explain that to me if you can, please. I enjoy reading your posts - your experiences over the years are really interesting to me but am baffled that you can consider someone like that a friend. Someone that so totally "shits" on certain people, in the worst way. I know you'll all probably think that I have no business saying this but what she does has bugged me for a long time. JB - hope you have a great time tonight, as you usually do!!! Merry - as I'm sure you know, having a "the tag team" against you is actually a good thing, better than them being your "friends" Dee edited to say: Susan, I hope all is well with you and I do miss reading your posts. From having talked to you a bit, I know you are a great mother and there's nothing more important than that!
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#41745 - 08/18/06 09:26 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - but at the same time you can consider joyt your friend - and ignore the totally "mean and evil" way she treats others on here (not once but over and over again). i wondered when u'd show up again. why do u feel the need to delete the majority of your posts? i think we both know, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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#41746 - 08/18/06 09:26 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Dee L. Dee L. Member Registered: 07/30/04 Posts: 92 Loc: Montreal, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: Quote: Originally posted by dashing: In general, I do think a different thread should have been started before it became a forum for those who will never see eye to eye swayed it so off topic. I feel I contributed and am guilty. Though, I bet paradude is getting a good laugh. This is exactly what he thrives on. His physical abilities, "motivational speaking", while berating others confounds me as much as those who constantly feed his ego. He, so quick to critise certainly isn't fault free. He says he doesn't speak to promote anything pro helping the disabled. His main claim to fame is overcoming his drug (bad enough he admitted on the BD to shooting coke b/tween his toes) and alcohol addiction. But, at the same time has let pressure sores get bad enough for surgery. His personal attack about Susan is how this thread went astray. He was relentless in chasing Susan around this board to pick on. I could possibly respect him if he could see further then what benefits himself or gives him cheap thrills and he didn't try to play puppet master on NM. I would venture a guess this site is about the only connection he has w/ anyone physically disabled. dash edit; this is my opinion hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - but at the same time you can consider joyt your friend - and ignore the totally "mean and evil" way she treats others on here (not once but over and over again). Explain that to me if you can, please. I enjoy reading your posts - your experiences over the years are really interesting to me but am baffled that you can consider someone like that a friend. Someone that so totally "shits" on certain people, in the worst way. I know you'll all probably think that I have no business saying this but what she does has bugged me for a long time. JB - hope you have a great time tonight, as you usually do!!! Merry - as I'm sure you know, having "the tag team" against you is actually a good thing, better than them being your "friends" Dee edited to say: Susan, I hope all is well with you and I do miss reading your posts. From having talked to you a bit, I know you are a great mother and there's nothing more important than that!
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#41747 - 08/18/06 11:11 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
brutalyhonestly brutalyhonestly Member Registered: 12/19/04 Posts: 1795	puke & beak... at it again :rolleyes:
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#41748 - 08/19/06 06:20 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Wabi Wabi Member Registered: 06/06/00 Posts: 23858 Loc:	But out, you disgusting little maggot.
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#41749 - 08/19/06 07:31 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Dee, Well you reposted my post enough to insure it stays here. If I remember correctly you are fairly new here, an ab and have a brother w/ the same injury level as myself. Certain posters have been "pegged" as being one way or another here on NM. I see you are one who pats johnboy on the back as though he's some child. You then pat Merry on the back. Both have posted some pretty negative things as have others. But, you choose to question my friendship w/ Joy. There are histories between different posters on this BD that go back way before I ever came here. I choose who I am friendly with, w/out regard to what any particular "clique" feels nor will change my feelings due to pressure from others. Joy is my friend. My opinion won't change due to what anyone says. In this same thread you support Merry who both Joy and I questioned about another poster. I personally have no problem w/ Merry. Joy may. That doesn't mean I change my opinion about either. There are many here I agree w/ sometimes and not others. Real friends can agree to disagree about certain issues. It would be a pretty boring world if we were all robotic followers. I still wish this thread had stayed on topic. Interesting you entered once it went astray. dash
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#41750 - 08/19/06 07:47 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: i'm a DizzyDuck! edited for inanity. ensure *jb has a southern twang--much like tucker carlson.
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#41751 - 08/19/06 08:12 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Thanks Rob, I questioned that word. It is way to early for me to be up. dd
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#41752 - 08/19/06 08:40 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: I personally have no problem w/ Merry. Joy may. That doesn't mean I change my opinion about either. There are many here I agree w/ sometimes and not others. Real friends can agree to disagree about certain issues. It would be a pretty boring world if we were all robotic followers. I agree dash - I consider you a board friend and I hope you feel the same. As you say, real friends can agree to disagree about certain issues - and we don't have to have the same friends in common. Isn't that called being an adult? But thank you Dee for your kind words - I don't think we have ever posted to one another. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41753 - 08/19/06 08:54 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Thanks Rob, I questioned that word. It is way to early for me to be up. dd *too Quote: too \|to?\| adverb 1 [as submodifier ] to a higher degree than is desirable, permissible, or possible; excessively : he was driving too fast \| he wore suits that seemed a size too small for him. • informal very : you're too kind. 2 in addition; also : is he coming too? • moreover (used when adding a further point) : she is a grown woman, and a strong one too. PHRASES all too —— used to emphasize that something is the case to an extreme or unwelcome extent : failures are all too common. none too —— far from; not very : her sight's none too good. only too see only . too bad see bad . too far see far . too much see much . ORIGIN Old English , stressed form of to , spelled too from the 16th cent. Thesaurus too adverb 1 invasion would be too risky excessively, overly, over, unduly, immoderately, inordinately, unreasonably, extremely, exorbitantly, very; informal too-too. 2 he was unhappy, too, you know also, as well, in addition, additionally, into the bargain, besides, furthermore, moreover, on top of that, to boot, likewise. to: Quote: to \|to?\| preposition 1 expressing motion in the direction of (a particular location) : walking down to the mall \| my first visit to Africa. • expressing location, typically in relation to a specified point of reference : forty miles to the south of the site \| place the cursor to the left of the first word. • expressing a point reached at the end of a range or after a period of time : a drop in profits from $105 million to around $75 million \| from 1938 to 1945. • (in telling the time) before (the hour specified) : it's five to ten. • approaching or reaching (a particular condition) : Christopher's expression changed from amazement to joy \| she was close to tears. • expressing the result of a process or action : smashed to smithereens. 2 identifying the person or thing affected : you were terribly unkind to her. • identifying the recipient or intended recipient of something : he wrote a heart-rending letter to the parents \| I am deeply grateful to my parents. 3 identifying a particular relationship between one person and another : he is married to Jan's cousin \| economic adviser to the president. • in various phrases indicating how something is related to something else (often followed by a noun without a determiner) : made to order \| a prelude to disaster. • indicating a rate of return on something, e.g., the distance traveled in exchange for fuel used, or an exchange rate that can be obtained in one currency for another : it only does ten miles to the gallon. • ( to the) Mathematics indicating the power (exponent) to which a number is raised : ten to the minus thirty-three. 4 indicating that two things are attached : he had left his bike chained to a fence \| figurative they are inextricably linked to this island. 5 concerning or likely to concern (something, esp. something abstract) : a threat to world peace \| a reference to Psalm 22:18. 6 governing a phrase expressing someone's reaction to something : to her astonishment, he smiled. 7 used to introduce the second element in a comparison : it's nothing to what it once was. infinitive marker 1 used with the base form of a verb to indicate that the verb is in the infinitive, in particular • expressing purpose or intention : I set out to buy food \| we tried to help \| I am going to tell you a story. • expressing an outcome, result, or consequence : he was left to die \| he managed to escape. • expressing a cause : I'm sorry to hear that. • indicating a desired or advisable action : I'd love to go to France this summer \| we asked her to explain \| the leaflet explains how to start a recycling program. • indicating a proposition that is known, believed, or reported about a specified person or thing : a house that people believed to be haunted. • ( about to) forming a future tense with reference to the immediate future : he was about to sing. • after a noun, indicating its function or purpose : a chair to sit on \| something to eat. • after a phrase containing an ordinal number : the first person to arrive. 2 used without a verb following when the missing verb is clearly understood : he asked her to come but she said she didn't want to. adverb so as to be closed or nearly closed : he pulled the door to behind him. ORIGIN Old English t? (adverb and preposition); related to Dutch toe and German zu. :)
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#41754 - 08/19/06 09:28 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	lmao this shit gets more and more bizarre. dee l..thanks for the 'pats' rofl...and thanks i had a good time last...my aide showed up at 9 this a.m. i didnt get thrown into bed till 3. tucker carlson has a southern twang? robs accent is soo much like joe pescei(sp?)...without the nasally voice. i only have a problem with one person here...shrug _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41756 - 08/19/06 10:29 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
ævory ævory Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 9657	mmandi
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#41757 - 08/19/06 11:00 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
joyt joyt Member Registered: 04/16/01 Posts: 19345 Loc: AccessibleProperties.net	Quote: Originally posted by ævory: mmandi what about kelly, or did u not write this one either, ronda?
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#41758 - 08/19/06 03:06 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
SeaShelly SeaShelly Member Registered: 02/12/01 Posts: 1917 Loc: South Carolina	whoa! this thread was only a few pages long the other day, wasn't it? I'd read it all but I'm too lazy right now. LOL _________________________
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#41759 - 08/19/06 03:41 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	careful ronda, you might get thrown out of the 'joyt club'...lol :p _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41760 - 08/19/06 03:51 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Serendipity Serendipity Member Registered: 08/23/05 Posts: 1975 Loc: Far from the madding crowd	Quote: Originally posted by SeaShelly: whoa! this thread was only a few pages long the other day, wasn't it? I'd read it all but I'm too lazy right now. LOL Same here Michele, I keep missing a couple + of pages and am too much of a Slackass to catch up. Like right now, I clicked on the subject line, only to see it jump from page 6 ( when I last had a nosey) to 10 lol. Darn, I only post on the Slackass thread if its near the top as I am too lazy to search for it :p ...so thats pretty tellin' lol. _________________________ Better to do something imperfectly than to do nothing flawlessly. -Robert H. Schuller
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#41761 - 08/19/06 04:08 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
MerryA MerryA Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 10887 Loc: Tennessee	FYI - it is almost all a snipe-fest so you aren't missing anything new. _________________________ "I was curious. Since I'm not a cat, that's not dangerous." - Greg House 76.22.172.94
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#41762 - 08/19/06 04:36 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by MerryA: FYI - it is almost all a snipe-fest so you aren't missing anything new. for sure, a bunch of ankle biting.... and no i'm not excluding myself...even though i think i'm innocent.. :p _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41763 - 08/20/06 11:46 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Phfft Phfft Junior Member Registered: 07/27/06 Posts: 7 Loc: rolling in the spanish moss wi...	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: But out, you disgusting little maggot. My, my, do you run your tongue up and down leg braces with that filthy mouth?
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#41764 - 08/20/06 11:48 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Phfft Phfft Junior Member Registered: 07/27/06 Posts: 7 Loc: rolling in the spanish moss wi...	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: pillowtalk, boys? LMAO Choke on a devo's **** , hag LMAO
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#41765 - 08/20/06 01:38 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
SeaShelly SeaShelly Member Registered: 02/12/01 Posts: 1917 Loc: South Carolina	Quote: Originally posted by Phfft: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: pillowtalk, boys? LMAO Choke on a devo's **** , hag LMAO Am I going to be accused of being this one, too? Just for the record Joy, Wabi...this is not me. _________________________
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#41766 - 08/20/06 03:22 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	eeeeasy!
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#41767 - 08/20/06 03:32 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
SeaShelly SeaShelly Member Registered: 02/12/01 Posts: 1917 Loc: South Carolina	Quote: Originally posted by sodapop: eeeeasy! I was being nice. I meant that in a nice "eeeeasy" way. _________________________
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#41768 - 08/20/06 03:42 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by Phfft: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: pillowtalk, boys? LMAO Choke on a devo's **** , hag LMAO i meant "it". cowards, everywhere! "own" it...(RonGordon).
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#41769 - 08/21/06 07:40 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: Quote: Originally posted by dashing: In general, I do think a different thread should have been started before it became a forum for those who will never see eye to eye swayed it so off topic. I feel I contributed and am guilty. Though, I bet paradude is getting a good laugh. This is exactly what he thrives on. His physical abilities, "motivational speaking", while berating others confounds me as much as those who constantly feed his ego. He, so quick to critise certainly isn't fault free. He says he doesn't speak to promote anything pro helping the disabled. His main claim to fame is overcoming his drug (bad enough he admitted on the BD to shooting coke b/tween his toes) and alcohol addiction. But, at the same time has let pressure sores get bad enough for surgery. His personal attack about Susan is how this thread went astray. He was relentless in chasing Susan around this board to pick on. I could possibly respect him if he could see further then what benefits himself or gives him cheap thrills and he didn't try to play puppet master on NM. I would venture a guess this site is about the only connection he has w/ anyone physically disabled. dash edit; this is my opinion hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - but at the same time you can consider joyt your friend - and ignore the totally "mean and evil" way she treats others on here (not once but over and over again). Explain that to me if you can, please. I enjoy reading your posts - your experiences over the years are really interesting to me but am baffled that you can consider someone like that a friend. Someone that so totally "shits" on certain people, in the worst way. I know you'll all probably think that I have no business saying this but what she does has bugged me for a long time. JB - hope you have a great time tonight, as you usually do!!! Merry - as I'm sure you know, having a "the tag team" against you is actually a good thing, better than them being your "friends" Dee edited to say: Susan, I hope all is well with you and I do miss reading your posts. From having talked to you a bit, I know you are a great mother and there's nothing more important than that! I agree with what dashing has to say. In fairness to pretty much anyone here. I think it's smarter to suspend any judgment as long as you can, and untill you've read A LOT and mean really a lot of the persons posts before you judge them. I've known paradude (know of, is closer to the truth) maybe 8 years but I've read much less than half of what he's posted. lately I've been trying to quit saying anything negative about anyone. But sometimes it's important to stick up for people who are wrongly being harrassed or judged. Maybe dashing simply hasn't read as many of the negaitve post you're talking about posted by joyt. Missunderstanding rules this board. Along with egomanian and plain old selfishness and self centered thinking. I consider that a fact. But it's still a place I can feel usefull and get some feedback to help me with my charactor flaws WE ALL GOT EM!! that never seem to fully go away. Robert. PS, It's still fun to call PD a prick with ears and other funny insults though, sometimes. I mostly think we need to quit taking the dude so seriously. Don't let him get under your skin or ignore his posts, and he becomes pretty powerless. _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41770 - 08/21/06 07:45 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by Wabi: But out, you disgusting little maggot. LOL, funny. I wonder who the disgusting little maggot is. You forgot to give it a name. _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41771 - 08/21/06 08:02 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Robert64 Robert64 Member Registered: 01/10/04 Posts: 1196	Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: lmao this shit gets more and more bizarre. dee l..thanks for the 'pats' rofl...and thanks i had a good time last...my aide showed up at 9 this a.m. i didnt get thrown into bed till 3. tucker carlson has a southern twang? robs accent is soo much like joe pescei(sp?)...without the nasally voice. i only have a problem with one person here...shrug Hmmm, Now that I really ponder about it. I can't say I have anger or problems with anyone here. Sometimes myself when I don't take my time to write a post. Sometimes I get worried about my manualy dexterity and balance, the balance problem keeps getting more and more infuriating, possibly due to some undiagnosed degenerative disease. Not enough worry to make a doctors appointment. I'm so fed up with doctors apointmes n hospital time.....yadda yaddda blah blah blah. I know I'm not the only one. On the upside, my hands are super fast deu to catching stuff as it slides off my lap for so many years. Dyslexia is a fukin bitch! I really have to concentrate, and I also have to slow down so I don't skip words. I think faster than my fingers can type, I probably have ADD too according to my last romance. She's a very well educated FNP (family nurse practitioner. Unfortunately she can't work any more. I'm sure she could help people kinda like the way Splinter does. I think life just sucks sometimes and we have to accept it. _________________________ The Truth is out there...
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#41772 - 08/22/06 12:57 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
cass cass Member Registered: 03/01/00 Posts: 3505 Loc: WA	forgive me. i read very little on this thread. those who attack susan, step up and do half what she does in the real world for whatever you believe in or STFU. i'm sick of the sniping bullshit that makes us, yes us, a minority at the voting box rather than the majority we are. i don't have time to hardly post any more or keep up with posts. but bitchin at susan is stupid.
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#41773 - 08/22/06 10:04 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: i don't have time to hardly post any more or keep up with posts. but bitchin at susan is stupid. you're right about the ad hominem attacks...but susan does come across a know-it-all and should expect to be challenged now and then. the fat crap is just down right mean and uncalled for and i admit i've used the obese references as a weapon; probably because i'm either jealous or threatened by open-mindedness. susan should definitely grow a pair and come back. if you're reading this, i am sorry, susan. _________________________
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#41774 - 08/22/06 11:04 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Maybe dashing simply hasn't read as many of the negaitve post you're talking about posted by joyt. i think dashing has read ennough of the negative stuff joyt says about me...she almost always chimes in when it starts goin downhill for joyt...with 'joyts my friends...' 'joyt was was my secret pal' blah blah blah, but never addressing her negativity... hey but thats jmo _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41775 - 08/22/06 11:24 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop sodapop Member Registered: 02/18/05 Posts: 9486 Loc: new york	Quote: Originally posted by Johnboy 64: Quote: Maybe dashing simply hasn't read as many of the negaitve post you're talking about posted by joyt. i think dashing has read ennough of the negative stuff joyt says about me...she almost always chimes in when it starts goin downhill for joyt...with 'joyts my friends...' 'joyt was was my secret pal' blah blah blah, but never addressing her negativity... hey but thats jmo TheDuck's as big a hen as TheScareCrow. _________________________
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#41776 - 08/22/06 12:15 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Oh Rob, You're just trying to be the head cheerleader on your dear paradanny's fan club. dash edited for BADpunctuation: the club belongs to ParaDanny; hence you need this ' doodad.
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#41777 - 08/22/06 05:25 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Dee L. Dee L. Member Registered: 07/30/04 Posts: 92 Loc: Montreal, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Dee, Well you reposted my post enough to insure it stays here. If I remember correctly you are fairly new here, an ab and have a brother w/ the same injury level as myself. Certain posters have been "pegged" as being one way or another here on NM. I see you are one who pats johnboy on the back as though he's some child. You then pat Merry on the back. Both have posted some pretty negative things as have others. But, you choose to question my friendship w/ Joy. There are histories between different posters on this BD that go back way before I ever came here. I choose who I am friendly with, w/out regard to what any particular "clique" feels nor will change my feelings due to pressure from others. Joy is my friend. My opinion won't change due to what anyone says. In this same thread you support Merry who both Joy and I questioned about another poster. I personally have no problem w/ Merry. Joy may. That doesn't mean I change my opinion about either. There are many here I agree w/ sometimes and not others. Real friends can agree to disagree about certain issues. It would be a pretty boring world if we were all robotic followers. I still wish this thread had stayed on topic. Interesting you entered once it went astray. dash Thanks for reponding Dash: To answer your questions: fairly new, 2 years and yes I'm AB - not sure if you're same level as bro, he's C6/7 complete. I wasn't talking about people who disagree on here cause I see nothing wrong with that. I was talking about "cheap insults", just as you were regarding paradude. I'm sure you're right when you say there's a lot of "history" here that goes way back and also a lot that goes on "behind the scenes" but I posted solely on what I've read here and what I felt. I probably don't have the "total" picture and perhaps I was wrong to post what I did? By the way, I did not repost your post to ensure it stays here. I just happen to be terrible on the net and only today did I even realize I posted twice - still not sure how I did that. Take Care Dee
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#41778 - 08/22/06 05:38 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Dee L. Dee L. Member Registered: 07/30/04 Posts: 92 Loc: Montreal, Canada	Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - but at the same time you can consider joyt your friend - and ignore the totally "mean and evil" way she treats others on here (not once but over and over again). i wondered when u'd show up again. why do u feel the need to delete the majority of your posts? i think we both know, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Joyt - you wondered when I'd show up again? Why is that - cause I disagreed with you and told JB that I don't think he's a whiner? I feel no need to delete posts and didn't even delete my double post - but u seem to think I do. Since you know why, maybe you can explain that need of mine? Sure you have it all saved away somewhere - hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Dee edited to say: awwww, how come my rating doesn't show anymore - is it cause it dropped from 5 stars to 3 stars (2.84 to be exact) LOL
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#41779 - 08/22/06 05:54 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
kimberleyb kimberleyb Member Registered: 06/24/00 Posts: 4386 Loc: cripworld	rob, it's JAMES robert, what business is it of yours what I do? and I'll step up and say Joy is my friend as well. And Wabi too.. and a few others. I also met Susan (and Teddy) over the weekend and she told me why she is not posting here. Let her be. She's busy and doesn't have time for this. _________________________ My Life is Better Than Your Vacation http://www.unlimbited.com
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#41780 - 08/22/06 06:12 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Hey jb, there is no twosome duo (please fix that Rob) going on in defending Joy. I come in when I'm brought into it. You're paranoid. BTW, what agency do you use? I've sort of been dumped? dash
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#41781 - 08/22/06 06:34 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
RustyJames RustyJames Member Registered: 07/22/01 Posts: 872 Loc: NJ	Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - but at the same time you can consider joyt your friend - and ignore the totally "mean and evil" way she treats others on here (not once but over and over again). i wondered when u'd show up again. why do u feel the need to delete the majority of your posts? i think we both know, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Joyt - you wondered when I'd show up again? Why is that - cause I disagreed with you and told JB that I don't think he's a whiner? I feel no need to delete posts and didn't even delete my double post - but u seem to think I do. Since you know why, maybe you can explain that need of mine? Sure you have it all saved away somewhere - hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Dee edited to say: awwww, how come my rating doesn't show anymore - is it cause it dropped from 5 stars to 3 stars (2.84 to be exact) LOL dee, it's tit-for-tat around here (just like kindergarten). you ruffled some feathers (pun intended) that's why you lost your 5 star rating.
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#41782 - 08/22/06 06:41 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Opps, I might be mistaken. Dinners cooking so don't have a chance to check. I think I told the DUDE to stuff it first. I then mentioned his cheerleaders. Joy did find those cute photos. Now, dinner . dash
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#41783 - 08/22/06 06:58 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by RustyJames: Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - but at the same time you can consider joyt your friend - and ignore the totally "mean and evil" way she treats others on here (not once but over and over again). i wondered when u'd show up again. why do u feel the need to delete the majority of your posts? i think we both know, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Joyt - you wondered when I'd show up again? Why is that - cause I disagreed with you and told JB that I don't think he's a whiner? I feel no need to delete posts and didn't even delete my double post - but u seem to think I do. Since you know why, maybe you can explain that need of mine? Sure you have it all saved away somewhere - hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Dee edited to say: awwww, how come my rating doesn't show anymore - is it cause it dropped from 5 stars to 3 stars (2.84 to be exact) LOL dee, it's tit-for-tat around here (just like kindergarten). you ruffled some feathers (pun intended) that's why you lost your 5 star rating. it's always the same vicious birds dee and robbyj...when they flock together, they're relentless until their victim is carrion. they've successfully pecked apart LeftLucy,(who had multiple disabilities and could have used some friends) sherry, sweetieheart, etc. so far they're unsuccessfuly beaking jb & paradanny
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#41784 - 08/22/06 07:00 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Opps, I might be mistaken. Dinners cooking so don't have a chance to check. I think I told the DUDE to stuff it first. I then mentioned his cheerleaders. Joy did find those cute photos. Now, dinner . dash hasn't nm limited you to ten stooopid posts a day?
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#41785 - 08/22/06 07:15 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Hey jb, there is no twosome duo (please fix that Rob) going on in defending Joy. I come in when I'm brought into it. You're paranoid. BTW, what agency do you use? I've sort of been dumped? dash PAranoid......roflmfao,,, yea, thats me. the only name i think joyt has tacked on to me that i might iagree with is daft...lol what else has she called me racist, whiner, stoic, called my degrees 'pity degrees'...i know i'm forgetting a few, but u get the idea _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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#41786 - 08/22/06 08:14 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
cass cass Member Registered: 03/01/00 Posts: 3505 Loc: WA	Quote: Originally posted by kimberleyb: I also met Susan (and Teddy) over the weekend and she told me why she is not posting here. Let her be. She's busy and doesn't have time for this. :D thumbs up kimberley! me either.
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#41787 - 08/23/06 08:12 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Opps, I might be mistaken. Dinner's (or is) cooking so i don't have a chance to check. I think I told the DUDE to stuff it first. I then mentioned his cheerleaders. Joy did find those cute photos. Now, dinner . dash edited for poor punctuation & grammar. D-
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#41788 - 08/23/06 09:03 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Dee L. Dee L. Member Registered: 07/30/04 Posts: 92 Loc: Montreal, Canada	it's tit-for-tat around here (just like kindergarten). you ruffled some feathers (pun intended) that's why you lost your 5 star rating.[/QB][/QUOTE] Hi Rusty - yup, just like kindergarten but I guess I acted like a kidergarten student too! Should keep to my NM rule, that I was able to follow for almost 2 years. If I get pissed off reading here, just close NM and then just stay away for awhile. Wasn't able to this time, cause bro has gone thru quite a few problems lately and thats when I can't help but come back here. Dee P.S. My rating is now at 2.02 - LMAO, kindergarten for sure!!!!!!!!! and joyt didn't show me the majority of posts that I supposedly delete, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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#41789 - 08/24/06 04:30 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
RustyJames RustyJames Member Registered: 07/22/01 Posts: 872 Loc: NJ	Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: it's tit-for-tat around here (just like kindergarten). you ruffled some feathers (pun intended) that's why you lost your 5 star rating. Hi Rusty - yup, just like kindergarten but I guess I acted like a kidergarten student too! Should keep to my NM rule, that I was able to follow for almost 2 years. If I get pissed off reading here, just close NM and then just stay away for awhile. Wasn't able to this time, cause bro has gone thru quite a few problems lately and thats when I can't help but come back here Dee P.S. My rating is now at 2.02 - LMAO, kindergarten for sure!!!!!!!!! and joyt didn't show me the majority of posts that I supposedly delete, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? dee, i'd be willing to bet your low rating (like it matters) didn't come from any of the guys here. i for one have a lot of respect for your enthusiasm in helping your brother. i have a sister that i've done a lot in the past for, and i don't see her (or can't see her) doing that for me.
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#41790 - 08/24/06 09:30 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: it's tit-for-tat around here (just like kindergarten). you ruffled some feathers (pun intended) that's why you lost your 5 star rating. Hi Rusty - yup, just like kindergarten but I guess I acted like a kidergarten student too! Should keep to my NM rule, that I was able to follow for almost 2 years. If I get pissed off reading here, just close NM and then just stay away for awhile. Wasn't able to this time, cause bro has gone thru quite a few problems lately and thats when I can't help but come back here. Dee P.S. My rating is now at 2.02 - LMAO, kindergarten for sure!!!!!!!!! and joyt didn't show me the majority of posts that I supposedly delete, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?[/QB][/QUOTE] i just gave you five stars. don't grow feathers, plz.
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#41791 - 08/24/06 10:24 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
dashing dashing Member Registered: 08/31/01 Posts: 6633 Loc: home	Oh Rob, I bet you sleep on a feather pillow . Dee, just don't take somethings personally . I probably did function at your brothers level for many years. He's (believe it or not) still a relatively new injury. He probably will learn how to be self sufficent. Most important now is not getting health issues which will detract from moving foreward in life. dash
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#41792 - 08/26/06 08:38 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Efren Efren Junior Member Registered: 08/26/06 Posts: 5 Loc: California	Sorry I just ready this. This does sound great! I think we need to get out there more and really not be ashamed that we have a "Noticeable" Dis ability! I think that even in our "little" worlds we close the doors to something that may be sprouting like a seed and you never know what could happen because all we do is whine about this or that and never DO anything about it! You go
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#41793 - 08/26/06 08:39 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Efren Efren Junior Member Registered: 08/26/06 Posts: 5 Loc: California	OOPS I think i replied to the wrong topic here .
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#41794 - 08/27/06 08:10 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
sodapop_dup1 sodapop_dup1 Member Registered: 01/13/06 Posts: 1317 Loc: westchester county, new york	Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Oh Rob, I bet you sleep on a feather pillow . Dee, just don't take somethings personally . I probably did function at your brothers level for many years. He's (believe it or not) still a relatively new injury. He probably will learn how to be self sufficent. Most important now is not getting health issues which will detract from moving foreward in life. dash i thought we agreed to limit you to seven silly, inconsequential posts per week? plz contain yourself, DonnaDuck!
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#41795 - 08/27/06 06:29 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Dee L. Dee L. Member Registered: 07/30/04 Posts: 92 Loc: Montreal, Canada	[ Quote: Originally posted by dashing: Oh Rob, I bet you sleep on a feather pillow . Dee, just don't take somethings personally . I probably did function at your brothers level for many years. He's (believe it or not) still a relatively new injury. He probably will learn how to be self sufficent. Most important now is not getting health issues which will detract from moving foreward in life. dash Hi Dash, Not sure if you mean u function higher or lower than bro now? I do realize he is still a relatively new injury. He his pretty much self sufficient (excluding BP) but has had some issues lately that set him back some. Sounds like he found a new pca tho, which is great news and I'm hoping the same for you. I don't take most things here personally but I do take someone lying about me personal. I have never deleted my posts (not that I have many in 2 years) here and really resent that someone would actually make up lies about me, for whatever reason. Hi Rusty, Thanks! Kinda sad for me to read that for all you've done for your sis that she wouldn't do same for you, but thats life huh. I don't do what I do for bro as payback tho (as I'm sure you probably didn't help your sis for that reason either) - bro and I were never really close. Hi Rob, No need for the 5 stars, like rusty said, it doesn't matter - it was just funny to me (really don't think I'll ever grow feathers ). By the way - went to dinner with bro and Chris last Thurs. and your name came up (all good) hehe - Chris says Hi! Dee P.S. Efren, you didn't reply to wrong topic - a few of us are guilty of causing this thread to go very off topic. Sorry about that, but welcome!!
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#41796 - 08/28/06 08:28 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
RustyJames RustyJames Member Registered: 07/22/01 Posts: 872 Loc: NJ	just to clarify: my sci was the result of my stupidity; the last thing i want is my sister to alter her life for my recklessness. she's got a lot going on in her life and i don't ever want to be an encumbrance to her. we have always been very close.
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#41797 - 08/29/06 05:27 PM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
ParaDude ParaDude Member Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 33855 Loc: United Provinces of America	Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: Quote: Originally posted by joyt: Quote: Originally posted by Dee L.: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - but at the same time you can consider joyt your friend - and ignore the totally "mean and evil" way she treats others on here (not once but over and over again). i wondered when u'd show up again. why do u feel the need to delete the majority of your posts? i think we both know, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Joyt - you wondered when I'd show up again? Why is that - cause I disagreed with you and told JB that I don't think he's a whiner? I feel no need to delete posts and didn't even delete my double post - but u seem to think I do. Since you know why, maybe you can explain that need of mine? Sure you have it all saved away somewhere - hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Dee edited to say: awwww, how come my rating doesn't show anymore - is it cause it dropped from 5 stars to 3 stars (2.84 to be exact) LOL I gave ya 5 stars Dee. Joy needs someone to bitch at or her meaningless life is not complete. Take note that in regards to JB she hassles him for all the things she doesn't have. JB enjoys life and actually leaves the house on a regular basis. JB has an education. JB smiles and enjoys his life and doesn't actually spend 24/7 online studying and compiling a dossier on every person here at NM. Joy's on your case? Then you must be doing something right. Nice to see ya again. _________________________
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#41798 - 08/30/06 09:50 AM Re: Disability Pride Weekend Events
Johnboy 64 Johnboy 64 Member Registered: 11/16/01 Posts: 15944 Loc: a nice place	Quote: Originally posted by ParaDude: Joy's on your case? Then you must be doing something right. now that's funny...in a sad pathetic kinda way! _________________________ [IMG]http://justmypics.4t.com/johncowboy.jpg[IMG]
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