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#41431 - 06/30/06 11:12 PM Re: Kervorkian's regret
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#41433 - 07/01/06 10:06 AM Re: Kervorkian's regret
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Dr. Kervorkian is one of the true humanitarians of out times. It sickens me that he has ended out imprisoned.

Even our pets are allowed to be put of the their misery when they are sick and in pain. It's unfortunate that the current government won't extend that same curtesy to people.

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#41435 - 07/01/06 10:54 AM Re: Kervorkian's regret
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Susan,

How many threads does this make that you have started to trash Kevorkian and start a fight about end of life choices?

Do you honestly think something will be said that hasn't been said before that will suddendly change someone's mind?
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#41436 - 07/01/06 11:05 AM Re: Kervorkian's regret
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Xuxan

Your statement:
"He made his choices knowingly. Now he pays the price."

You are worse than kevorkian, you are completely ruthless. He showed no signs of being as ruthless as you.. May you suffer worse than kevorkian, for your continued attempts to deny people the right to decide how and when to end their suffering. He was only trying to help people, as you are. But you have no compassion for him, and I have none for you.

When he said "I challenge them if they believe that what I do is illegal to put me in prison for life", It should clue anybody with half a brain, that he truly believed that what he was doing was not illegal or wrong. He made his choices to suffer, as you make your choice to suffer the miseries of old age, by continuing to live. He was railroaded, by scum

Your statement:
"Kervorkian is receiving the best health care money can buy while in prison. His lawyer says his condition is poor, but they used that as an excuse not to imprison him in the first place."

That's just another version of people like you keeping someone alive, so they can suffer longer. You stink

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#41438 - 07/01/06 11:54 AM Re: Kervorkian's regret
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I agree with your take on his statement but I think we have discussed it before here.

Of course, we rehash the same crap over and over again on the Political forum so ....
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#41439 - 07/01/06 03:00 PM Re: Kervorkian's regret
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well, i wasn't going to add t0 the rehash, but...

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Judi K-Turkel: Plea for a forgotten fighter - Let Kevorkian die at home with dignity
By Judi K-Turkel

A very sick 78-year-old doctor is dying in a Michigan prison, an anachronism left over from the 20th century. Should we let him die in prison, or do we have the decency to say, "Enough is enough. Release him and let him die at home"?

The doctor is Jack Kevorkian, who was sentenced in 1999 to 10 to 25 years in Michigan's Lakeland Correctional Facility for Men. He traded his freedom for openly, shamelessly touting what he called our "right to die with dignity." He'd spent the 10 prior years brashly, illegally helping 130 terminally ill people end excruciatingly painful lives.

After 10 years in prison, he finally comes up for parole the middle of next year. But his friends tell me he may not live until then.

To be honest, I had forgotten all about Dr. Kevorkian's long fight for death with dignity. After I made sure to sign my own "do not resuscitate" and "no heroic measures" directives, his plight slipped my mind. Then I got a note from the daughter of an old high school friend. Though unrelated to Dr. Kevorkian, her last name is the same. Often asked, "Are you related?" it led her to learn about this forgotten, dying man. Appalled at his frailness, she is backing a petition for the doctor's release.

When Dr. Kevorkian practiced in the 1980s, great pain was still a given endured stoically in childbirth, in accidents, in mental and physical illness, in death. At the end of life, assisted death was only ever OK for animals. It was outspoken, unflinching Dr. Kevorkian who forced us all to consider, "Do our parents have the right to a dignified death when there's no cure and only agony ahead? Or does anyone, even a doctor, have the right to help a sufferer end his or her own life?"

The debate over end-of-life options isn't resolved yet. Assisted suicide is still criminal in 44 states, including Wisconsin. Only in Oregon and Ohio is it explicitly legal. (Despite a push by the Bush team, the U.S. Supreme Court last year upheld Oregon's law, which sheltered 246 terminally ill Oregonians in its first eight years. Oregon, incidentally, has the lowest hospital death rate in the nation and the highest rate of people who are allowed to die at home. Oregon Hospice Association CEO Ann Jackson feels it's at least partly due to the fact that Oregonians can choose to die with dignity.)

Death is still an unpopular subject, despite public support for Terri Schiavo's right to die. But at least now doctors and hospitals urge us all to provide legal end-of-life do-not-resuscitate and no-heroic-measures directives. If you've ever been grateful that a loved one got you off the hook by "having it in writing," it's partly stubborn, crusading old Dr. Kevorkian you can thank.

Kevorkian antagonized a lot of people with his in-your-face flaunting of the "Do not kill no matter what" mandate. He thinks it was his crusading political and legal attacks that made Michigan throw away the key. "The government knows I'm not a criminal. The parole board knows I'm not a criminal. The judge knows I'm not a criminal." Yet he's sure: "I'll die in prison. There is nothing anyone can do. The public has no power."

Now that his 5-foot-8-inch frame is down to 114 pounds, do we still have anything to fear from Dr. Kevorkian? Or do you think he should be released to die at home?

Love him or hate him, if you think enough is enough, do add your signature as I did to the petition for his release at the Web site http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/761877453.

Judi K-Turkel is a journalist and author based in Madison.
Published: June 13, 2006



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#41440 - 07/01/06 03:17 PM Re: Kervorkian's regret
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xuxan:
"regrets some of his actions" he says he "could have accomplished more by speaking for legalization rather than performing the act" "No regrets for any specific action" "prison kills the soul" "unable to do anything useful in prison to further the cause"
here is the direct quote:

Do you have any regrets about what you did?

Yes, I should've worked for a change in the law instead.

You've said recently that if you are released, you will no longer break the law. Does that mean that you've changed your views about assisted suicide?

I have not changed my views on assisted suicide, but I believe it should be performed legally, and I would do whatever my health permits regarding petitions, speeches, lobbying and writing in support of legalization.

What made you change your mind about violating the law?

I changed my mind about the method because the laws are changing in many areas of the world and in the United States, and it is time for legalization to be done in a legal way.

So is it possible to fight the state and the law when the law is wrong?

It is possible to fight the state when the law is wrong. It has been done many times in the past — such as segregation, taxation without representation by the English, which caused the American Revolution. However, it is counterproductive in this situation. The law is changing throughout the world, and support for that change is escalating.

Does the approach of death change your feelings about death?

No, it does not change my feelings about death.

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as you can see, the "regret" was over the productiveness of his actions, not over any purported change of heart.

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