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#41297 - 06/24/06 09:10 AM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
MissLiz
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#41298 - 06/24/06 12:11 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
MrSoul
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Really f ucked up... I can't believe this isn't totally against the law!

PS: I saw the movie "Pushing tin" and loved it... noticed the phrase "work the tin" in the article. Great slang term for the job!
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#41299 - 06/24/06 01:03 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
candra
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I've read this article several times and I really would like to know more of the story. It seems there is a chunk missing.

The article said he is to be terminated on his 50 the birthday, but yet I'd like more of a backstory on how this came to be. Was retirement offered and if so what is the retirement policy for ATCs (is it mandatory at some point either medical or age wise?)? Was there some kind of a physical issue (not just the wc but something else like vision or another condition) that made a medical retirement manditory? And if so, why not take the retirement -- financially it's better than being fired?

I'd just like to hear the FAAs side of the story, although since it's an an employment issue we probably won't (privacy and all).

No, I don't think anybody should be pushed out of their job, but I'd really like to hear both sides of the story. I just feel there is something missing.

Candy

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#41300 - 06/25/06 03:22 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
StarlightAngel
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candy, this was the only other article i could find on the story.
Quote:
Controller claims retaliation by FAA

Man says his dismissal is for lawsuit he filed

By Ken Kaye
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted June 24 2006


For his birthday, Ray McLeod, an air traffic controller in Miami who uses a wheelchair, got an unwanted present: a pink slip.

The Federal Aviation Administration on Thursday notified McLeod that as of Monday, when he turns 50, he will no longer have the job he has held for 21 years.

McLeod is eligible for his pension on his birthday, the FAA said. Under terms of a 2002 court settlement, that is the agreed-upon date he would depart, the agency said. McLeod, of Cooper City, had sued the agency for failing to make his workplace wheelchair-accessible.

Although he planned to retire this year anyway, he said it's still unfair. He accused the FAA of "retaliating" for his suit.

"To be forced out the door without time to prepare, to me, that's just not right," he said Friday.

"I still have financial responsibilities and bills."

FAA officials denied retaliating or discriminating. Rather, they said, they were abiding by the terms of the settlement.

"The agency takes great pride to create a positive environment for employees who have disability concerns," said FAA spokesman Geoff Basye.

In 1975, McLeod was paralyzed in a motorcycle accident when he was 18. After an arduous rehabilitation, he was an airline dispatcher for 10 years, giving him the experience to be hired as a controller at Miami Center, an FAA radar complex.

"I could have stayed home and collected a disability check. But I wanted to do more. So I pushed myself to achieve and take care of my family," said McLeod, the married father of two sons.

Yet from the start, work was a struggle because of a lack of accessibility to elevators and restrooms, he said.

Then, six years ago, the center installed new radar displays with consoles so low McLeod was unable to squeeze his wheelchair under them. He would have had to turn his wheelchair sideways to work at a radar screen, which he felt would have been unsafe.

"That pretty much was the icing on the cake," he said.

He first filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, then a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Miami.

The FAA opted to settle, allowing McLeod to work as an assistant controller, a less demanding position that paid him a base annual salary of $144,000. The settlement included a clause that McLeod would be allowed to work in that position until the first day he was eligible for retirement.

McLeod said his interpretation of the clause was he could continue working, but not necessarily as a controller.

"There have been other controllers who are no longer capable of working air traffic for medical reasons who have been assigned other jobs," he said.

He said he is unsure what he will do as of Monday.

"After being a good employee for 20-plus years, it's just no way for anybody to be treated," he said.

Ken Kaye can be reached at kkaye@sun-sentinel.com or 954-385-7911.

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#41301 - 06/25/06 04:00 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
candra
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Thanks Starlight. Now it makes more sense.

..."He first filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, then a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Miami.

The FAA opted to settle, allowing McLeod to work as an assistant controller, a less demanding position that paid him a base annual salary of $144,000. The settlement included a clause that McLeod would be allowed to work in that position until the first day he was eligible for retirement.

McLeod said his interpretation of the clause was he could continue working, but not necessarily as a controller."...

So it's a matter of interpretation. Depends on how the settlement agreement was written. Could be he didn't understand it.

And the first article was incorrect. He's not being fired. Fired means you loose your job and don't get any benefits. He is retiring, with a pension. Huge difference.

Candy

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#41302 - 06/25/06 04:35 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
Greg
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I suspect I will probably get yelled at for this but wanted to ask.
Could the person's wheelchair be adapted so it could fit under the console?

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#41303 - 06/25/06 08:38 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
cass
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and this article says pink slip. you don't get a pink slip when you retire.
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#41304 - 06/25/06 11:37 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
cass
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greg, one more thing. it is not the wheelchr that can/need be adapted. it is the work environment; i.e. the console.

i work in this industry and i will be contacting the faa.

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#41306 - 06/26/06 07:31 AM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
corlorde
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The FAA opted to settle, allowing McLeod to work as an assistant controller, a less demanding position that paid him a base annual salary of $144,000. The settlement included a clause that McLeod would be allowed to work in that position until the first day he was eligible for retirement.
If I had the deal this guy had, working at a base salary of 144,000 a year for 20 some odd years fully knowing I had a clause in my deal saying that I would be let go on my first eligible day of retirement at age 50, I would have more than readied myself financially for that day. But that's me. I love the military; I didn't get a ****ing dime the day I got my "pink slip." I just adjusted. Perhaps I should put my uniform back on and show up at the recruiters office and demand that they accommodate me. Not. Shit, and life, happens.
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#41307 - 06/26/06 11:50 AM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
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in montana, if you have a contract as part of a settlement agreement, the plaintiffs understanding of the contract is the basis for it.

for example - in my condo association, I have a settlement agreement that includes a contract saying that all common areas would be ada and fha compliant within 6 months.

to us, that meant accessible to the UBC..

the condo association is claiming that since they haven't renovated, they can stay inaccessible until they make a change

obviously, there wouldn't have been a settlement agreement had their position been the one we were signing on

this may also be the case here
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#41308 - 06/26/06 08:59 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
ParaDude
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:rolleyes:

And this shit makes the papers? Man...we work so hard to let the world know that we aren't "whiney" and "needy" crips and then this crap hits the media and it's like we have to do it all over again. :rolleyes:

I agree with Corlorde's post...wholeheartedly.
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#41309 - 06/26/06 09:01 PM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
ParaDude
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Originally posted by ParaDude:
:rolleyes:

And this shit makes the papers? Man...we work so hard to let the world know that we aren't "whiney" and "needy" crips and then this crap hits the media and it's like we have to do it all over again. :rolleyes:

I agree with Corlorde's post...wholeheartedly.
Edited to add: You know, I'd have no problem with this sort of story...but the title of this thread shows again the attempt to strike fear into the disabled world...making something out of nothing...AGAIN. I guess it is ok to yell "FIRE" in a community full of crips.
:rolleyes:
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#41310 - 06/27/06 12:47 AM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
cass
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a pink slip MEANS fired. so, both articles concur. perhaps you don't understand the term, "pink slip." btw, my company employs the same method. hands you a "pink slip" (fired), then gives you options. usually, you get a little more time, though.

the faa also failed to accommodate.

apparently, a man who worked all those yrs is merely "whining." i guess i won't "whine" next time i can't get to my son's soccer game, or into his taekwondo tournament. wouldn't want to be seen as "needy." and, by god, those dis spots are wasting parking space. let's get rid of them. i don't want to be "needy."

i have worked 19 yrs, in pain, and i'll be damned if i let "updated" equipment allow them to hand me a pink slip. really, read between the lines.

btw, corey, where does it say he worked 20 yrs knowing he had "this deal?" it was only when the consoles were updated that there was a prob. i work with the faa, and frankly, they mostly are not very accommodating with anybody. they rule the skies and can shut anybody down. i can't stand most of them.

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#41311 - 06/27/06 01:13 AM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
ParaDude
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i have worked 19 yrs, in pain, and i'll be damned if i let "updated" equipment allow them to hand me a pink slip. really, read between the lines.
People get shown the door because their jobs become obsolete all the time.
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#41313 - 06/27/06 01:42 AM Re: FIRE the handicapped.
cass
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his job is NOT obsolete. not by a LONG shot.

oh, i guess i was "whining" back in 1989 during B2 flight testing and before that, GVT. there were all those cables on the floor and safety deemed me a "hazard." and god forbid, i had the nerve to go out on the apron to look at the belly of the B2 at a system i was working on. what was i thinking? safety was on that, too. guess what? my BOSS slapped them down. and i did my job.

btw, next time you fly, remember your life is pretty much in the hands of ATC. do you want someone with experience?

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