#40472 - 05/02/06 09:12 AM
Re: Andrea Clark does not want to die
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StarlightAngel
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i googled "andrea clark" & mostly came up with a bunch of "pro-life" and NDY-related pages, neither of which i would consider an unbiased source (and neither of which i endorse). however, reading through the relevant articles i did find this little gem:
Futility Proceedings Stopped (excerpt)
On April 19, the hospital's ethic's committee gave Andrea's family 10 days to find another facility or physician to treat her and decreed that at the end of the 10 days, under the Texas Futile Care Law signed into effect in 1999 by then Texas Gov. George W. Bush, the woman's life support would be removed because in their view, it was medically futile to keep Andrea alive.
Andrea's attending physician, Dr. Ronald Giveon, made the decision to remove Andrea from life support and then left for vacation. His decision was supported by the hospital's ethics committee and the respirator and dialysis keeping Andrea alive were scheduled to be removed from Andrea on Sunday...
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thank you, president bush. :rolleyes:
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#40473 - 05/02/06 09:39 AM
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Rattrap
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Then Gov. Bush signed this travesty into law under pressure from the abortion groups and other pro death agencies. So I agree with starlight here, a big roll eyes to the culture of death. It is also nice seeing you change your tune, siding with prolife.
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#40474 - 05/02/06 12:38 PM
Re: Andrea Clark does not want to die
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StarlightAngel
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Originally posted by Rattrap: Then Gov. Bush signed this travesty into law under pressure from the abortion groups and other pro death agencies. you have any proof of that?
i haven't "changed my tune" as you put it, and anyway, even if i did it wouldn't matter since what i think counts for bupkis as far as policy goes.
just pointing out yet another shrub inconsistency is all.
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#40475 - 05/02/06 01:06 PM
Re: Andrea Clark does not want to die
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Rattrap
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It is not a 'shrub inconsistency.' It was a compromise with the Texas legislature. They were going to pass this law, regardless.
The White House said yesterday that Bush's position is consistent, and that the Texas bill focused on expanding the rights of the critically ill and their families to prevent hospitals and doctors from denying life-saving treatment.
Bush spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters that Bush vetoed 1997 legislation that would have put into law Texas hospital policies that gave families virtually no protections and as little as 72 hours to find alternative care after a hospital decided to stop treatment.
Under the 1999 law, another White House official said, Bush expanded that time to 10 days and authorized family members to seek extensions in court, but acknowledged that if the challenges fell short, "under the legislation, the hospital still could authorize the end of life." http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002215324_texaslaw22.html
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#40476 - 05/02/06 02:13 PM
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cbal-craig
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Originally posted by Rattrap: [QUOTE] The White House said yesterday ( LMFAO ) that Bush's position is consistent, and that the Texas bill focused on expanding the rights of the critically ill and their families to prevent hospitals and doctors from denying life-saving treatment.
Bush spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters that Bush vetoed 1997 legislation that would have put into law Texas hospital policies that gave families virtually no protections and as little as 72 hours to find alternative care after a hospital decided to stop treatment.
Under the 1999 law, another White House official said, Bush expanded that time to 10 days and authorized family members to seek extensions in court, but acknowledged that if the challenges fell short, "under the legislation, the hospital still could authorize the end of life." http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002215324_texaslaw22.html [/QB][/Q UOTE]
What a big hearted lug that Bush is.
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#40477 - 05/02/06 03:29 PM
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Davyd
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If ya'll are really interested you might also check on the message board at http://www.democraticunderground.com/
They seem to have the latest news on Andrea Clark that I've seen.
At last report the hospital had given the family until today to decide what they were going to do about this ladies healthcare. The last I heard was that there has been a cease/desist order filed in the courts to stop St. Lukes from stopping the treatments. And it seems she has a new doctor.
So the news for now is good, thanks to both the right and left.
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#40479 - 05/02/06 06:50 PM
Re: Andrea Clark does not want to die
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flicka
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Originally posted by Xuxan: This is one way to limit how much you spend on medical care - let other states take care of your patients that cost too much by deciding their care is futile. From what I've read, Andrea Clark is covered by private insurance.
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#40480 - 05/02/06 07:02 PM
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Davyd
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Originally posted by flicka: Originally posted by Xuxan: This is one way to limit how much you spend on medical care - let other states take care of your patients that cost too much by deciding their care is futile. From what I've read, Andrea Clark is covered by private insurance. From what I read, she has BC/BS and a whole lotta other private insurance.
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#40482 - 05/02/06 08:09 PM
Re: Andrea Clark does not want to die
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cass
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Originally posted by Rattrap: Then Gov. Bush signed this travesty into law under pressure from the abortion groups and other pro death agencies. So I agree with starlight here, a big roll eyes to the culture of death. It is also nice seeing you change your tune, siding with prolife. bullshit to bringing abortion groups into this. pro-choice is just that. andrea clark is not being given a choice.
btw, rat, sorry if this sounded like a personal attack. it wasn't. i was referring to ideology of groups, not you. whew. gotta be careful after a totally unexpected response at cc to a post
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