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#40206 - 02/27/06 05:34 PM Re: Myths about Disability
candra candra Member Registered: 05/17/00 Posts: 2877 Loc: Ripon, CA US	yes, music is another big "hero zone" but the kids like the young cool singers. Britany Spears is very popular. I know not the best role model in the world but a lot of young girls just love her. Not much you can do but grin and bear it (or since we are talking about Britany that should be "bare" it!) I also think sometime kids (teens) pick their idols/heroes just to see their parent's reactions. I don't remember having any famous heroes when I was young. I think some teachers and a few neighbors. People I knew. I had a big crush on Bobby Sherman, but that had more to do with hormones than heroes. I don't think kids should be limited in their idol choice. No reason a dis kid has to have a dis idol. Same for ABs. If they like something the idol/hero does then I think that is good enough. I think it's just good that kids have idols of any kind. It very positive and shows they are at least thinking about the future in some form. Candy
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#40207 - 02/27/06 05:37 PM Re: Myths about Disability
SteveGIMP SteveGIMP Member Registered: 03/01/00 Posts: 7672 Loc: The Great Lakes State	Quote: Originally posted by dowdy: But the only heroes disabled children are allowed with disabilities are the supercrips, ... Stephen Hawking?
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#40209 - 02/27/06 06:37 PM Re: Myths about Disability
kan5a5 kan5a5 Member Registered: 07/27/01 Posts: 13311 Loc: kan5a5	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: Because people with disabilities are just as worthy of being heroes, but too often are overlooked by people without disabilities. awwww...poor disabled heros. i feel sorry for them. _________________________
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#40210 - 03/01/06 10:06 PM Re: Myths about Disability
Kiara Kiara Member Registered: 01/11/01 Posts: 10923 Loc: I can hear you smile in the da...	Quote: Originally posted by Xuxan: Tommi Iommi? tony iommi go sab!! _________________________
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#40211 - 03/02/06 01:12 AM Re: Myths about Disability
ParaDude ParaDude Member Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 33855 Loc: United Provinces of America	Quote: Originally posted by dowdy: That because some moronic super crip went up everest in a wheelchair backwards, or swim accross the English channel, or some other stupid activity that everyone else who is disabled should and can do that, and more importantly should want to. Yeah then there are those moronic crips who spend their lives getting PhDs, spending their entire lives in school just trying to look important in a AB world. They are professional student who study a subject that has no real use in the real world. Now those crips are the true moronic psuedo-intellectuals who actually believe that between the pills, and the bottle, that they are actually contributing to society. _________________________
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#40212 - 03/02/06 01:17 AM Re: Myths about Disability
ParaDude ParaDude Member Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 33855 Loc: United Provinces of America	Quote: Originally posted by kan5a5: Quote: Originally posted by dowdy: I disagree with you. I don't think it's the same. Normal kids have heroes in the arts and sciences, poets and playwrits. But the only heroes disabled children are allowed with disabilities are the supercrips, We grow up with no choice in the heroes we are offered, the only heroes are the supercrips. crips can't have able bodied heroes? good grief perhaps when a crip excells in the arts and sciences, his or her disability is less relavent to the project or product man in wheelchair writes a short story! woman pushes wheelchair across nebraska! which 'headline' has a bigger 'hook'? Exactly Kan5a5...I don't understand why a disabled kid can't have the same heros any other kid would have. All kids today are picking the wrong "heros", there is nothing heroic about being a rock star, or a sports star, or a movie star. My personal "heros" are those people who put their lives on the line to save and protect the lives of people they don't even know. Firefighters, Cops, those in the Military, EMTs, Nurses, and Doctors...they...in my not so humble opinion, are the real heros of the world. _________________________
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#40213 - 03/02/06 01:50 AM Re: Myths about Disability
cass cass Member Registered: 03/01/00 Posts: 3505 Loc: WA	i don't believe i really have (or had) any hero types. i admired some ppl, but i had my own goals. and, btw, my hearing did get more sensitive post sci. i about went crazy w/it in hospital/rehab. am told it is fairly common. to this day, every noise in the house bothers me. so, i'd take that off the myth list. and PI, i think you're totally wrong. most ppl, in my exp., do NOT think they will become a quad (substitute any acquired dis). that's part of the prob. i sure as hell didn't. and i grew up surrounded by ppl with disabilities.
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#40214 - 03/02/06 09:30 AM Re: Myths about Disability
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	Quote: Originally posted by ParaDude: ...there are those moronic crips who spend their lives getting PhDs, spending their entire lives in school just trying to look important in a AB world. They are professional student who study a subject that has no real use in the real world. Now those crips are the true moronic psuedo-intellectuals who actually believe that between the pills, and the bottle, that they are actually contributing to society. geez, thanks a lot, PD. :rolleyes: _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#40215 - 03/02/06 09:41 AM Re: Myths about Disability
Serendipity Serendipity Member Registered: 08/23/05 Posts: 1975 Loc: Far from the madding crowd	Quote: Originally posted by StarlightAngel: Quote: Originally posted by ParaDude: ...there are those moronic crips who spend their lives getting PhDs, spending their entire lives in school just trying to look important in a AB world. They are professional student who study a subject that has no real use in the real world. Now those crips are the true moronic psuedo-intellectuals who actually believe that between the pills, and the bottle, that they are actually contributing to society. geez, thanks a lot, PD. :rolleyes: I could be wrong...but something tells me this wasn't a dig at you Karen... you don't fulfill the criteria of Moronic etc anyway... 'Ren _________________________ Better to do something imperfectly than to do nothing flawlessly. -Robert H. Schuller
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#40216 - 03/02/06 10:22 AM Re: Myths about Disability
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	Quote: Originally posted by dowdy: I disagree with you. I don't think it's the same. Normal kids have heroes in the arts and sciences, poets and playwrits. But the only heroes disabled children are allowed with disabilities are the supercrips, We grow up with no choice in the heroes we are offered, the only heroes are the supercrips. maybe what you are talking about, rather than "heroes", is "role models"? i think i get the general idea of what dowd's point is - that these superathletic "supercrips" get a lot of publicity for activities that are essentially self-indulgent while crips in other areas (including -gasp- crips with actual jobs) are unjustifiably neglected. that is, if i'm reading him right. that being said, i think dis kids today have many more dis role models to choose from than maybe in the past. also, i think that dis kids today are much less limited in the role models - dis OR a/b - that they can choose, whereas previous generations of dis kids might not have been encouraged to aspire to certain a/b role models, believing they were somehow out of reach... jmo. _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#40217 - 03/02/06 10:23 AM Re: Myths about Disability
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	ps. thanks, ren. _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#40218 - 03/02/06 11:46 AM Re: Myths about Disability
ladyheart ladyheart Member Registered: 02/24/00 Posts: 3392 Loc: on a pathway, somewhat smooth,...	Quote: Originally posted by StarlightAngel: Quote: Originally posted by dowdy: I disagree with you. I don't think it's the same. Normal kids have heroes in the arts and sciences, poets and playwrits. But the only heroes disabled children are allowed with disabilities are the supercrips, We grow up with no choice in the heroes we are offered, the only heroes are the supercrips. maybe what you are talking about, rather than "heroes", is "role models"? i think i get the general idea of what dowd's point is - that these superathletic "supercrips" get a lot of publicity for activities that are essentially self-indulgent while crips in other areas (including -gasp- crips with actual jobs) are unjustifiably neglected. that is, if i'm reading him right. that being said, i think dis kids today have many more dis role models to choose from than maybe in the past. also, i think that dis kids today are much less limited in the role models - dis OR a/b - that they can choose, whereas previous generations of dis kids might not have been encouraged to aspire to certain a/b role models, believing they were somehow out of reach... jmo. Karen, as one of the "previous generation of dis kids" you mention, as a polio kid we were primarily pushed to somehow "fit in" to regular society on the one hand, to make "do" and be good little "crips" so other's would be more comfortable around us. Many I know after almost fully recovering from the initial attack of the polio virus, learned to hide their residual disabilities and became "passers" for fear of non acceptance. This all began to change over time of course when folks became more vocal with regard to access and public accomodations. Even though he "hid" his disability well from the public, FDR was always "hero" to me, obviously because of our shared dis. In one article I read years ago, it said he was diagnosed around August 12, and that was the same day my parents were told about me too, many years later of course. take care, Donna
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#40219 - 03/02/06 12:08 PM Re: Myths about Disability
ParaDude ParaDude Member Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 33855 Loc: United Provinces of America	Quote: Originally posted by StarlightAngel: Quote: Originally posted by ParaDude: ...there are those moronic crips who spend their lives getting PhDs, spending their entire lives in school just trying to look important in a AB world. They are professional student who study a subject that has no real use in the real world. Now those crips are the true moronic psuedo-intellectuals who actually believe that between the pills, and the bottle, that they are actually contributing to society. geez, thanks a lot, PD. :rolleyes: It most certainly wasn't a dig at you Karen. I think education is important, it allows us the tools to be contributers to our society. You have worked hard and are taking your learned skills and applying them to the real world. I think that is wonderful. I should have been a wee bit more specific with my wording. Sorry bout that. _________________________
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#40220 - 03/02/06 02:32 PM Re: Myths about Disability
StarlightAngel StarlightAngel Member Registered: 04/25/01 Posts: 11013 Loc: a box on the table	ok. _________________________ "oh yeah, life goes on, long after the thrill of living it is gone." http://www.autonomynow.org
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#40221 - 04/16/06 12:37 PM Re: Myths about Disability
john55555 john55555 Member Registered: 03/31/06 Posts: 531 Loc: "'cross the alley from the Ala...	Myths about disability. Brings back a memory or two. In '95 I was having new frames made for my glasses. I walked out and saw 3 or 4 people standing around my car. I was on crutches, and wearing a full leg brace. As I got closer, I could hear things like , "Imagine parking that in a Handicapped space!" .."How terrible!" Yadda..Yadda Well, it was a brand new, triple black Corvette Convertible..with a Handicapped Parking Tag on the rear view mirror!! But they couldn't process the reality that a "disabled" person was driving it instead of a van. They looked through the Parking Permit..seeing only the Corvette in a Handicapped spot and couldn't accept it. Priceless fun. I asked them to move. Beeped it open, put the crutches in the passenger's seat, put the top down and drove off. Myth Busted: "Disability doesn't preclude driving a sports car." Take Care, Johnny P.S. 1 year later I was no longer able to climb out of the 'Vette (you could fall in!)..and sold it.
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