#40188 - 02/22/06 07:17 PM
Re: Myths about Disability
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Paul I
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I am sure there are people who buy into some of these myths but I, personally, don't know any. Disability is different than being racially different or having a different sexual preference because disability can happen to anyone. No one thinks about becoming black or gay but no one is immune from a disablity. People may or may not be hgihly conscious of this but inwardly they know it can visit them. PI
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#40189 - 02/22/06 08:43 PM
Re: Myths about Disability
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flicka
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* "I could never ..... live like you do, put up with what you do, tolerate the lack of privacy, ask for help.... you are only given as much as you can handle."
I don't think this is a myth for some people.
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#40190 - 02/23/06 06:16 AM
Re: Myths about Disability
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Serendipity
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
* Your disability could be cured if you only had enough faith.
either in person ( think opening the door to a calling religious sect) or TV evangelistic ads..even just the media portrayal...
and just ordinary folks..just what they say...lol
'Ren
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#40191 - 02/23/06 08:22 AM
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StarlightAngel
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* "I could never ..... live like you do, put up with what you do, tolerate the lack of privacy, ask for help.... you are only given as much as you can handle."
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#40192 - 02/25/06 04:47 PM
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dowdy
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That because some moronic super crip went up everest in a wheelchair backwards, or swim accross the English channel, or some other stupid activity that everyone else who is disabled should and can do that, and more importantly should want to.
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#40193 - 02/25/06 10:31 PM
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dowdy
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another really bad myth is thatwe actually like bland hospital or institution style food and eat it when we are at home....
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#40194 - 02/25/06 10:46 PM
Re: Myths about Disability
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Nancie
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Originally posted by dowdy:
another really bad myth is thatwe actually like bland hospital or institution style food and eat it when we are at home....
dowdy, you should check out the eGullet website.
everything about food, beverages, cooking and dining out, from every country in the world.
here's the link to all the forums:
http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?s=dd020ceb5f3fa6447e3ffa337a6005ae&act=idx
you don't have to register just to read, but you do if you want to post.
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#40195 - 02/26/06 10:32 PM
Re: Myths about Disability
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candra
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Originally posted by dowdy:
That because some moronic super crip went up everest in a wheelchair backwards, or swim accross the English channel, or some other stupid activity that everyone else who is disabled should and can do that, and more importantly should want to.
If you are dis and have the interest and talent, you can scale Everest and climb Half Dome and go to the paralympics. In the AB population you can do the same and go to the Olympics. Same, Same. Some people are just more athletic than others and have more discipline (for training) than the rest of us do (dis or AB). They should be applauded. They all make great accomplishments. It's not easy, I'm sure.
I know a lot of quads who have zero interest in competitive sports, and if for some reason they were miraculously able to walk, I don't think they would have any more interest. On the other hand I know some quads who love competitive sports and have participated throughout their life. Just like some ABs like sports and some don't.
Many on this board have competed or have an interest in some sport or athletic accomplishment. Maybe you don't Dowdy, and that's fine. But others do. Don't belittle others for that. It's just a personal choice.
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#40196 - 02/26/06 11:19 PM
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dowdy
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I am not belittling them its the myth that because some else has done xyz and have accomplished abc that I should give a rats arse for their superatheticism and that I should want to be like them. The only people we ever really hear about are the super crips, the ones who have overcome their disability by accomplishing some super human feat of physical stupidity.(I hate this term of overcoming disability it sucks). I dethroned all the heroic super-crip overcoming figures of my childhood as rollmodels. I want real people who have personality rather than just being a personality.
I have no heroic desire to proove that I have overcome anything. I have people I admire, but I see nothing heroic about doing something that is therapuetic just because it is, there has to be more to life than therapuetic exercise.
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#40197 - 02/27/06 10:42 AM
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Linda253
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Xuxan's original post is dead-on. Those ARE the most common myths that most ABs have about us.
In response to Dowdy's post, If some guy wants to climb Everest, I say more power to him! I hated growing up with no role models, and I think these "super-crips" serve a positive purpose, not a negative one. Too often I have seen PWDs who have no interest in being proactive in improving/maintaining their physical health, or in improving other aspects of their lives (Most people on this NM board are generally NOT that way, but I have seen this trait more in people who were born disabled, who were given negative messages by society & parents in childhood.) It is alot easier to bitch and gripe than it is to take responsibility for oneself. I exercise regularly because it helps my physical and emotional well-being. I don't have anything to prove to anyone else; only myself. I enjoy challenging myself to go farther and faster on my bicycle, for example...
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#40199 - 02/27/06 02:56 PM
Re: Myths about Disability
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candra
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Originally posted by dowdy:
I am not belittling them its the myth that because some else has done xyz and have accomplished abc that I should give a rats arse for their superatheticism and that I should want to be like them.
Furthermore, I don't think if some guy in a wheelchair decides to go out and climb Mt. Everest, that he is perpetuating a myth. He's most likely just doing what makes him happy. The myth part comes most likely from the press. It's just the way they spin dis stories. So I think your beef should be with the press not with the so called "super crips".
Candy
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#40200 - 02/27/06 03:11 PM
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dowdy
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I disagree with you.
I don't think it's the same. Normal kids have heroes in the arts and sciences, poets and playwrits. But the only heroes disabled children are allowed with disabilities are the supercrips, We grow up with no choice in the heroes we are offered, the only heroes are the supercrips.
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#40201 - 02/27/06 03:56 PM
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candra
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I don't know Dowdy, I still don't agree with you. For the most part I think athletes get that top "hero" spot, across the board. Last week I was in McDonalds and their soda cups have pictures of olympians and paralympians on them. Each cup highlights a different person and it contains a picture and a small bio.
First off, I was impressed that it was inclusive, and not just olympians. But, more to the point, the kids were really going crazy about the cups. They were looking at them, asking which one the other had, and making comments on them. They were excited!!I hardly think this would be the case if the cups had pictures of poets, authors or scientists. (which is probably why they feature athletes)
Also, I do believe that if you ask younger kids who their hero is, a lot will say it's mommy or daddy. I think parents are kids first heroes.
I also don't think anybody "allows" you a hero. Kids just pick somebody who they want to be like.
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#40203 - 02/27/06 04:55 PM
Re: Myths about Disability
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kan5a5
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Originally posted by dowdy:
I disagree with you.
I don't think it's the same. Normal kids have heroes in the arts and sciences, poets and playwrits. But the only heroes disabled children are allowed with disabilities are the supercrips, We grow up with no choice in the heroes we are offered, the only heroes are the supercrips.
good grief
perhaps when a crip excells in the arts and sciences, his or her disability is less relavent to the project or product
man in wheelchair writes a short story!
woman pushes wheelchair across nebraska!
which 'headline' has a bigger 'hook'?
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#40205 - 02/27/06 05:30 PM
Re: Myths about Disability
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kan5a5
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
More importantly can't kids w/o disabilties have heroes that do?
are you trying to push the river?
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