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#21077 - 05/24/06 05:52 PM Re: Another death of an autistic child
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#21078 - 05/24/06 07:32 PM Re: Another death of an autistic child
MrSoul
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My listserv has exploded over this.

The consensus is that the mom will get away with it. Virtually everyone on the list believes our lives simply aren't worth what others' are worth.

Also, the mother is a professional and a doctor. A poor, uneducated woman (especially unmarried or minority) would be easily convicted.

I hope we are proven wrong.
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#21080 - 05/24/06 08:16 PM Re: Another death of an autistic child
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Originally posted by MrSoul:
Virtually everyone on the list believes our lives simply aren't worth what others' are worth.
Everyone believes their lives aren't worth what others' are worth??? Seriously?
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#21081 - 05/24/06 08:20 PM Re: Another death of an autistic child
MrSoul
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Originally posted by flicka:
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Originally posted by MrSoul:
Virtually everyone on the list believes our lives simply aren't worth what others' are worth.
Everyone believes their lives aren't worth what others' are worth??? Seriously?
Not to the justice system.
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#21082 - 05/24/06 08:46 PM Re: Another death of an autistic child
flicka
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Ah, Bach!
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#21083 - 05/24/06 11:36 PM Re: Another death of an autistic child
Simon01
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This sentece made me sick to read:

"Tazewell County State's Attorney Stewart Umholtz said he does not plan to seek the death penalty.."

Just what sort of backwards society do we live in? Any sentence less than death is too lenient.

I am curious though: I re-read the article, but I can't figure out what the second murder charge is based on.

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#21084 - 05/24/06 11:59 PM Re: Another death of an autistic child
SteveGIMP
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Originally posted by Simon01:
Just what sort of backwards society do we live in? Any sentence less than death is too lenient.
Executing people makes us less backward?

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#21086 - 05/25/06 01:00 AM Re: Another death of an autistic child
kan5a5
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Executing people makes us less backward?
no steve, it's the way we do it. cave dwellers bashed in heads with rocks. now we have lethal injections and electricity. oh...and plastic bags.
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#21088 - 05/25/06 07:34 AM Re: Another death of an autistic child
MerryA
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My first question is why - a loving mother doesn't out of the blue kill her child - they mention "lack of services" several times in the article and also that she was a loving, caring mother. I bet there was something else major going on here that is not in the article. Tragic situation.
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#21089 - 05/25/06 08:27 AM Re: Another death of an autistic child
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Originally posted by SteveGIMP:
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Originally posted by Simon01:
Just what sort of backwards society do we live in? Any sentence less than death is too lenient.
Executing people makes us less backward?
we used to beat kids and furry animals too, simon. my right big toe is killing me. just kill bin-laden. yes i'm a hypo-crit (i'm turning into a fat slob. i can't stop eating. now i'll never get a date).
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#21091 - 05/26/06 05:56 PM Re: Another death of an autistic child
Simon01
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Originally posted by Xuxan:
If what we are doing in punishing her - what punishment is death? It is a far greater punishment for her to have to live with what she did and live inside away from society.

And if you want to think in terms of finances - it costs more to put a person to death than it does to keep them incarcerated - that is unless they don't' take advantage of every appeal under the sun.
I'm sorry if I was coming off as a violent person, but I just get so sick when I read about things like this. It seems like in recent years when parents have killed their children *someone* comes along to try to find some oh-so-special reason it was justified. Parent's couldn't "deal", stresed out, or "not enough support". Always someone else's fault.

If life is better for her than death then we should make for damn sure people like her never get out of prison. But sometimes I have to ask, can you blame me or anyone else for feeling outraged enough to, at least initally, wish the murderers dead? Something to keep this from happening again.

If I sounded flippant, I apologize.

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