#201889 - 03/29/12 12:45 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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flicka
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I don't have time to look right now, but am wondering when autism was first clinically diagnosed as a disorder?
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#201892 - 03/29/12 06:04 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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blow me.
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#201924 - 04/02/12 04:03 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Canucks don't call it autism, they just call them canadians.
Before you get your panties in a bunch, I have a grandson with Asperger's Syndrome.
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#201931 - 04/03/12 12:35 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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flicka
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I still haven't looked too closely at this research, but did discover that a lot of things (including mental retardation) have been moved into an autism diagnosis.
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#201974 - 04/09/12 02:51 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Besides being fat, Americans are messed up
And yet, Canadians still aspire to be us.
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#201975 - 04/09/12 04:35 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Greg
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And yet, Canadians still aspire to be us.
yea right
typical american attitude
similar to the Iraqis welcoming americans as liberators 
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#201976 - 04/09/12 04:53 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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It is probably not a coincidence that the USians have a very high rate of both obesity and autism, because maternal obesity significantly raises the risk of giving birth to an autistic or developmentally disabled child, according to new epidemiological research.
"ScienceDaily (Apr. 9, 2012) - A major study conducted by researchers affiliated with the UC Davis MIND Institute has found strong links between maternal diabetes and obesity and the likelihood of having a child with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) or another developmental disorder.
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"Over 60 percent of U.S. women of childbearing age are overweight; 34 percent are obese; and 16 percent have metabolic syndrome. Nearly 9 percent of U.S. women of childbearing age are diabetic, and more than 1 percent of U.S. pregnancies were complicated by chronic hypertension. In California, where the study was conducted, 1.3 percent of women had type 2 diabetes, and 7.4 percent had gestational diabetes."
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"Over a third of U.S. women in their childbearing years are obese, and nearly one-tenth have gestational or type 2 diabetes during pregnancy. Our finding that these maternal conditions may be linked with neurodevelopmental problems in children raises concerns and therefore may have serious public-health implications," said Paula Krakowiak, a PhD Candidate in Epidemiology affiliated with the MIND Institute. "And while the study does not conclude that diabetes and obesity cause ASD and developmental delays, it suggests that fetal exposure to elevated glucose and maternal inflammation levels adversely affect fetal development."
Full article: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120409103942.htm
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#201977 - 04/09/12 05:00 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Greg
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wow, yes, just saw the report on the nightly news, fat mom's are causing major problems for their babies, sad
sad to think for the first time the current children's generation will have a shorter lifespan than their parents
and it is easily preventable!
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#201979 - 04/10/12 02:16 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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AND JUST HOw much different are canadians and those in the u.s. most canadians live withinn very short distace of u.s. border. lol
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#201980 - 04/10/12 04:29 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Greg
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AND JUST HOw much different are canadians and those in the u.s. most canadians live withinn very short distace of u.s. border. lol
As soon as you cross the border you notice a difference, the billboard advertising, number of fast food places, size of the drinks at 7-11, six pack mentality, portion size in restraunts, different access and attitude towards filling your pie hole.
Canada obeisty rate 24.1%, USA obeisty rate 34.4%
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#201981 - 04/10/12 04:48 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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anita
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Although the Canadians are far from the most fit population, their obesity rate is much lower than the obesity rate in the USA.
As of 2007, for persons 15 years of age and older, the obesity rates are as follows:
----------- Overweight --- Obese --- Overweight & Obese Combined
USA ---------- 33.0% ------ 34.3% ------------ 67.3%
Canada ------ 31.4% ------ 15.4% ------------ 46.8%
The USians are the most obese population among 30 first-world nations, and the Canadians are the 13th most obese.
Edited by anita (04/10/12 04:52 PM)
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#201983 - 04/10/12 07:45 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Sorry to say this but on my first trip to the USA last December, I was amazed at the amount of persons using mobility devices. My first impression was this is a country that takes care of its pwd's, and take special care to include them in all social activities. I quickly realized, however that a fair amount were using mobility devices because they were too overweight. I have never seen this in other countries.
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#201987 - 04/11/12 08:04 AM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Sorry to say this but on my first trip to the USA last December, I was amazed at the amount of persons using mobility devices. My first impression was this is a country that takes care of its pwd's, and take special care to include them in all social activities. I quickly realized, however that a fair amount were using mobility devices because they were too overweight. I have never seen this in other countries.
Was your trip just within the state of Florida? Because if so that might explain a lot.
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#201989 - 04/12/12 11:03 AM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Your concern for Americans is so touching.
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#201990 - 04/12/12 02:09 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Deo
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Greg-Yes it was in the state of Florida. Could you explain.
bh-I am concerned with all humanity, but more so with pwd's. I wasn't aware that I was expressing a concern but rather an observation.
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#201992 - 04/12/12 05:19 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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sad to think for the first time the current children's generation will have a shorter lifespan than their parents
I have a hard time believing that just by looking at families I've known all my life. All the them have similar family dynamics as mine. My mother was six years younger than her father and 25 years younger than her mother when she died. My father was four years younger that his father and 12 years younger than his mother when he died.
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#201993 - 04/12/12 05:45 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Greg
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Greg-Yes it was in the state of Florida. Could you explain.
bh-I am concerned with all humanity, but more so with pwd's. I wasn't aware that I was expressing a concern but rather an observation.
Deo
Florida is the retirement haven of North America. Older Canadians flock there during winter months (called "snowbirds"). Florida is the place where the old go to die so it isn't a suprise that mobility aids are more visible there. Us, "true northeners" are just set adrift on an ice flow when our time is up.
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#201994 - 04/12/12 05:48 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Greg
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sad to think for the first time the current children's generation will have a shorter lifespan than their parents
I have a hard time believing that just by looking at families I've known all my life. All the them have similar family dynamics as mine. My mother was six years younger than her father and 25 years younger than her mother when she died. My father was four years younger that his father and 12 years younger than his mother when he died.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2011/01/childhood-obesity-shortens-life-expectancy.html
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#201995 - 04/13/12 10:29 AM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Greg-Yes it was in the state of Florida. Could you explain.
bh-I am concerned with all humanity, but more so with pwd's. I wasn't aware that I was expressing a concern but rather an observation.
Deo
Sorry Deo, In no way was my comment directed at you. Your posts have been quit insightful.
My post was directed at the Canadians who love to point fingers south of the border to tell us how wrong we live. I can live with constructive criticism, but as you can tell from this threads title........ Its far from that.
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#201996 - 04/13/12 02:43 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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flicka
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I didn't mean to imply you weren't telling the truth. I've just heard it several times and from my observations it seems an impossible fact.
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#201997 - 04/13/12 03:06 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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flicka
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AND JUST HOw much different are canadians and those in the u.s. most canadians live withinn very short distace of u.s. border. lol
AND JUST HOw much different are mexicans and those in the u.s. many mexicans live withinn very short distace of u.s. border. lol
Okay, finally time for me to be the smartass. It was actually going to be mentioned in my first response, but I'm turning 60 years old next week and have been trying to act grownup...failing that...
Although we have specifically discussed Canada, Mexico and the U.S. as separate entities in this thread, it seems only the U.S. gets to hold the title of "Americans"? I'm cool with that and am generally proud to be called by the title.
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#201999 - 04/13/12 09:46 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Deo
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I hear you bh. I am from a developing nation with conservative values. Here once you are disabled, people expect you to stay home and die, so disabled persons are not very visible.
What you don't see here often is three generations out together in social activities as is commonplace in the US. Old people here are also expected to stay home and die also.
Yes Greg, I realized that.
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#202001 - 04/14/12 08:00 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Your concern for Americans is so touching.
AND ALWAYS ON THE NEGATIVE... ME THINKS HE'S KINDA ENVIOUS. I KNOW LOTS OF CCANADIANS THAT HAVE MIGRITATED AND STAYED OR JUST COME FOR A FEW MONTHS EVERY YR. ONE OF MY BEST BUDS OVER THE PSAST SEVERAL YRS IS A CCANUCK. ANOTHER WAS KILLED A FEW YRS BACK. THEY HAVE NO DESIRE TO GO BACK...
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#202004 - 04/15/12 01:54 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Greg
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You guys got me, your anecdotal observations are the definitive authority.
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#202007 - 04/17/12 01:55 PM
Re: Besides being fat American are messed up in the he
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Indeed
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