#201751 - 03/12/12 01:04 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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ævory
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In order for a prophecy to be declared true, it should state clearly what is being predicted to happen and then all parts of it must actually come to pass. Most of the so-called "true prophecies" of the Bible are worded very vagely or crypitcally and can be read in multiple ways.
There is no "right" way to read the Bible, BTW, since most of the multiple Christian and Jewish denominations even have major disagreements in interpretations. That's the main reason there are over 100 separate Christian sects world-wide.
This is a copy/paste from your word processor or wherever you keep it.
Could you come up with new material. I think it's just us oldtimers here and you know how everyone hates to repeat stuff like their medical history...what their religious thing is or isnt....yada yada yada for us oldtimers. After all...we've heard it before. The same holds true for "this response" to anyone's religious posting about the end times. New material is appreciated and Lord knows...nobody here is going to ask for it, from you. You somehow manage to silence others.
What you wrote here, btw, is utter and complete lies. And it well tells that you do not read, know, or even care about any thing which this thread entails.
Since you have such distaste for the so-called prophecies which have come to pass or will come to pass or are COMING to pass now...please, tell us how you come to this conclusion. What readings tell you of this? How Do you come to such conclusion.
Just a taste...a little one...would be appreciated....which places in the Bible do you compare to conclude such knowledge of how a prophecy SHOULD be pulled off? Please do USE the Bible.
Don't abuse.
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#201752 - 03/12/12 01:12 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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ævory
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And for those prophecies that have passed it seems all have come true exactly. There are still some to come.
Paul
Yup, but you have to keep in mind...while reading the New, that the Old is absolutely of importance to the whole story of Jesus.
Hebrews...a great chapter....allllll about Jesus/
genesis...the beginning, the woman is to bear a child.....this being the first prophetic message... then
in the end...a pregnant woman is found....and the child, is to crush Satan!
The woman and child, in my viewpoint, are referring to Israel and her offspring, the Messiah Jesus --- both in the beginning and the end.
Now, tell God how prophecy SHOULD happen, anyone?....
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#201754 - 03/12/12 01:19 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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ævory
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I find it difficult to believe a prophecy is being fulfilled when a bunch of fundamentalist Protestants go over there with plans and money to convince everyone to rebuild the temple. Trying to create a fulfillment, to me, would be a false fulfillment like trying to personalize the antichrist.
Not to mention insulting as hell. Most Jews living in Israel do not accept Jesus as the Messiah they are waiting for. Also, around 20% of Jews living in the State of Israel claim to be athiest. It amazes me that the Christians working toward self-fulfilling prophecy think it's okay to insult Jewish beliefs by claiming their (Jews) eyes will be opened to the truth.
You could just as easily google the internet to then type:
Mainstream Christian groups generally accept Messianic Judaism as a form of Christianity.
Why not read the Bible instead.
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#201759 - 03/12/12 01:47 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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flicka
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We are not discussing Messianic Judaism.
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#201763 - 03/12/12 01:51 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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ævory
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What is it that we 'all' are discussing...just so we all can be on the same page, Flicka.
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#201768 - 03/12/12 02:52 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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The testimony of Jesus is the word of prophecy. It is about to come down around our ears one day soon. To Christians it will be a Hallelujah day. John the Baptist had it right when he said Repent! The day of the Lord is at hand.
Paul
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#201770 - 03/12/12 03:23 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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flicka
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What is it that we 'all' are discussing...just so we all can be on the same page, Flicka.
I believe we are discussing the current Jewish population of Israel...those who do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah.
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#201771 - 03/12/12 03:25 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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flicka
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John the Baptist had it right when he said Repent! The day of the Lord is at hand.
Wasn't that 2000 years, or so, ago? And, wasn't he introducing Jesus when he said that?
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#201775 - 03/12/12 07:09 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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Right Flicka but we are in the latter rain where God pours out His spirit (hopefully soon. The day of the Lord is at hanmd now. John introduced Jesus and His ministry and the bible is introducing the day of the Lord in the latter days. It does say that John had the spirit of Elijah according to Jesus as prophecy forcast, and prophecy says Elijah would come before the great and dreadful day of the Lord at the end. Or perhaps someone with the spirit of Elijah? We'll see. :-)
Prophecy says His spirit would fall on His people and the young would see visions and the old would dream dreams. Great times ahead!
Paul
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#201776 - 03/12/12 08:37 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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To me, as I said, it is not the fulfillment of prophecy when a group says that we are going to fulfill prophecy. When people claim someone may be the antichrist it is silly because no one will know who it is.
I still can't believe that people follow blindly a book assembled by a bunch of Catholic priests who picked and chose texts to create a book to guarantee their power and well-being yet don't believe what today's priests say. Then they said that this is the Word of God. How convenient. King James just had it translated, not re-written just for future Protestants. I imagine between the councils of Nicaea and King James that various scribes and priests made their own little "refinements" to the text under the suggestions of their pope or king.
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#201777 - 03/12/12 09:35 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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The Apostle Paul said the spirit of antichrist was in the world in his day. Anyone who claims Jesus is not the christ and messiah who sacrificed Himself on the cross is anti christ according to the bible; but there will be one true anti christ under satans control who will take over all the nations of the earth or at least will attempt it. The false prophet will join him and force on people a one world wide religion. Looks like Chrislam will be that religion, a merging of christianity and Islam. This is going on right now here in America.
Paul
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#201780 - 03/12/12 11:30 PM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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Paul I
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It is certainly not going on in Iraq as they drive the Christians into Jordan, Turkey and Kurdish Iraq as infidels.
And the religious athletic organization here in the US that won't admit Muslims because the Koran says to kill non-believers. There will be n merging until every last radical Muslim is dead.
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#201784 - 03/13/12 10:44 AM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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Paulwa_dup1
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Just watch the chrislam movement. That is the direction religion is trying to flow in America to satisfy Islam and bring the world to oine religion. Rick Warren and Charles Schuller are masterminding it from what I understand.
Paul
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#201785 - 03/13/12 11:10 AM
Re: The Day of the Lord is fast appearing.
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Anyone who claims Jesus is not the christ and messiah who sacrificed Himself on the cross is anti christ according to the bible;
But, this would include the entire Jewish population (who aren't Messianic). I have a hard time believing that.
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