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#200631 - 10/19/11 11:49 AM TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies
Meg
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TLC's "What Not to Wear" is now casting in New York! This season we would love to feature an inspirational woman who is dealing with fashion issues associated with a disability, such as being limited to a wheelchair.

The selected candidate would receive a whole new wardrobe and a $5,000 shopping spree in NYC! It's not only a lot of fun but a wonderful opportunity to show that you can look trendy and stylish no matter what your physical limitations may be.

The goal of our show is to SURPRISE ladies who are in need of a fashion "do-over" and whisk them to NYC for the fashion transformation of a lifetime. It is the ultimate fashion intervention!

Nominees should appear to be between the ages of 25 and 45 and have an outgoing and fun personality. Keep in mind; we are looking for women whose current wardrobes are out-dated or ill-fitting. However, this is not a mean-spirited program. We are not looking to embarrass anyone. Please free to check out clips on-line at tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/what-not-to-wear.

I'd love to hear from and about any such incredible women! All you need to do is send in the following information to mgriffin@bbcnyproduction.com ;

-Name of Nominee:
-Her Age:
-Size:
-Height:
-Marital Status:
-Occupation:
-Home Location:
-Describe her personality:
-Why do she specifically deserve this fashion makover?
-Describe her style in full detail:
-At least 4 pictures that illustrate he bad style:
-Nominator's (you!) name and contact information:

Thank you so much and I hope to hear from/about any ladies who could benefit from this opportunity soon

Best,
Meghan

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#200632 - 10/19/11 12:17 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: Meg]
anita
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Meg, despite your seeming good intentions, I object strongly to what you are asking.

You are asking people to send you unencrypted e-mail filled with highly personal and detailed information about third parties to be stored on an unknown and probably insecure server in an unknown location, to be shared and used by unknown parties, without first obtaining the consent of the women whose information you are seeking.

Moreover, you have not stated what you intend to do with the personal information you receive, where it will be stored, who will have access to it, nor whether it will be destroyed at the request of the person to whom it pertains.

It seems to me that your request likely violates many EU and US data protection laws, and I urge everyone not to send you any information.
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#200633 - 10/19/11 03:46 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: anita]
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I guess I'm not as careful as many. Email address are shared all the time...make a simply hotmail email for "contact info". The person requesting info here isn't exactly asking for a phone number and social security number.

Anyhoo...to each his/her own eh.
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#200634 - 10/19/11 04:45 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: ParaDude]
anita
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Paradude, I don't know why you are setting up a straw man argument about email addresses being shared all the time, and the ease of setting up a hotmail account, because the original poster is not even requesting that people send her the email address of disabled women, which would be bad enough in itself, but what she is requesting is far worse, and almost certainly runs afoul of the laws in the EU, US, and even Canada, which harmonized its data protection laws with the EU several years ago.

You seem to have missed it, but the original poster is requesting highly personal information about disabled women, including 4 photographs, the woman's name, age, height, size, location, occupation, marital status, and description of their personality.

This level of information is highly sensitive, and amounts to compiling dossiers on disabled women, which are ripe for being lost, stolen, sold, traded, misused and abused in numerous ways, which is why the data protection laws were put in place.

Such information can only legally be collected when the requirements I outlined in my first post are met, and in my opinion, they are certainly not met in this instance.
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#200635 - 10/19/11 08:39 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: anita]
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I didn't see the "send pics" part.

However, I doubt very much anything be requested is against any known internet law that I'm aware of.

I'm not sure if you are aware of it but "dossiers" are being compiled on each and every one of us here on the internet and they are being done quite legally. I'm not particularly fond of this fact but it is a fact.

Corporations know what web sites we visit, what foods we eat, what movies we watch...the list goes on and on.

Such info can only be collected when requirements are met? Really? Ever hear of facebook? Pictures of friends, associates, acquaintances and even strangers are being posted, tagged and distributed every day...with or without the permission of those people in the pictures.

ETA - how do you think a show like TLC's what not to wear finds it's subjects? I'm not saying this post here is legit, I'm just saying, that the show itself accepts submissions (pictures, contact info, locations ect.) all the time from people who do not (at the time) have the permission of the subject. Are they breaking a law?

ETA AGAIN - after a little quick research on the TLC WNTW website it appears that the email address given in the above post is legit as the email address for the show is WhatNotToWear@bbcnyproduction.com (notice the same last part in the email).

Here is the link to the nomination page with application form that has almost the EXACT same info requested here in this forum.

http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/what-not-to-wear/what-not-to-wear-casting.htm




Edited by ParaDude (10/19/11 08:46 PM)
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#200636 - 10/19/11 08:49 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: ParaDude]
ParaDude
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ETA again - Meghan Griffin is indeed the casting director for the show...fyi
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#200637 - 10/19/11 09:07 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: ParaDude]
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Oh...and since I'm on a roll. Meghan...question for you. Why does TLC WNTW only have women as subjects? In the intro to the show we see men transforming all the time.

I'm a paraplegic and you should see my wardrobe. I could use $5000.00 for new threads...that kinda money would pay for an awful lot of dewrags
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#200638 - 10/19/11 10:16 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: ParaDude]
flicka
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Originally Posted By: ParaDude
I'm a paraplegic and you should see my wardrobe. I could use $5000.00 for new threads...that kinda money would pay for an awful lot of dewrags

It would almost pay for a new wheelchair for me and I think that is almost more important than my wardrobe. A person can look like a hundred dollar bill, but when their chair is duct taped together, it's really distracting...
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#200639 - 10/19/11 11:19 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: ParaDude]
anita
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I know that Meg is who she claims to be, which makes her request all the more troubling. I am very surprised that an employee of an arm of the BBC would make such a request without any thought given to the privacy implications of what she is requesting.

I am very aware of how people's private information can and is being used and abused for the commercial profit motives of companies such as facebook, google, and numerous others, and also through the malicious acts of organized criminals engaged in widespread data theft.

However, the fact that many companies are engaging in tracking and data gathering does not in any way legitimize those actions, nor make those acts lawful.

This forum reaches into many countries, including those subject to EU law, and people who collect personal data from EU residents are supposed to abide by the EU's rules which require among other things, that personal data may only be collected and processed with the subject's consent, that the data be kept safe and held no longer than necessary for its legitimate use, and deleted if the data subject believes that the holder of the data is violating their privacy rights.

If you wish to read more about the EU Data Protection Directive, you can find a summary here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive

You may disagree with me, but it is my opinion that Meg's request as posted here is not consistent with several of those requirements, as I outlined in my first post.

I also believe that her post may be unintentionally encouraging minors to reveal private information about their female family members, which I find objectionable. I could easily foresee a child who wants to help her mother get new clothes sending in all of the information requested, without any concept of the potential privacy risks.

Beyond the question of whether it's against the rules or not, I think that collecting such detailed personal information about anyone without their consent is unethical and should not be tolerated or condoned.

People have certain basic human rights, including a right to privacy, and those rights shouldn't be trampled on for the benefit of the producers of a reality TV show or any other company.

Since you mentioned facebook, I will point out that they have been formally accused of violating 22 separate provisions of the EU data protection law, and those complaints are being investigated.

If you are interested in reading more about those complaints, you will find them here: http://europe-v-facebook.org/EN/Complaints/complaints.html
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#200640 - 10/20/11 07:18 AM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: Meg]
Greg
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Originally Posted By: Meg

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Vos iz dos?

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#200641 - 10/20/11 07:56 AM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: Greg]
ParaDude
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The second you enter this world of the internet your ability to remain private is gone. Right or wrong those are the facts.

You may believe these action are unethical and wrong but they are obviously not against any laws as EVERYONE is doing it.

I posted a pic on my facebook just recently, tagged a few people, that went out to hundreds of more people. Did I break the law? I've tagged and been tagged and all without consent. In the grand scheme of things this "issue" is not really worth worrying about so I'll leave you to solve it on your own. Perhaps you could start with reporting the millions of violators on the web each day that are all "doing it".



Edited by ParaDude (10/20/11 09:41 AM)
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#200642 - 10/20/11 09:36 AM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: ParaDude]
Skylark
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I guess Anita has politely declined a chance to get a new wardrobe, $5K, and to be on the TeeVee.

I doubt the WNTW peeps will have trouble finding an interested lady for their show via email.

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#200648 - 10/20/11 10:49 AM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: Skylark]
ParaDude
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I could, if I wanted (I don't), submit people's names and photos to 100s of sites on the internet. Is it ethical? Morally correct? Nice? Of course not. Is it illegal? Not a chance.
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#200667 - 10/22/11 09:59 PM Re: TLC's "What Not to Wear" Casting NYC Ladies [Re: ParaDude]
Paul I
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It' impossible to fight. Tor can help but can be gotten through. I don't use Goggle anything nor Facebook, Twitter, My Space, etc. yet my ads are clearly based on my surfing. Since I'm not a foreign agent, CIA, etc. I guess I'm safe so it's a trade off.

Flicka, I have some Quickie II parts. Paul
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