#198366 - 04/13/11 07:51 AM
This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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ævory
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Buddhists never try to influence other religionists to come and embrace their religion for material gain. Nor do they try to exploit poverty, sickness, illiteracy and ignorance in order to increase the number of Buddhist population.
This statement taken from:
http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/whatbudbeliev/277.htm
is not true according to:
the file (pdf) on Green Dharma
Clearing the Pollution of Our Minds to Save the Environment
Richard Dale Jenkinson IV
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#198383 - 04/13/11 02:42 PM
Re: This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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starlight.2
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where does it say that?
This paper shows that the connection between Buddhism and the environment is incredibly strong and even inseparable. By simply acting out of true compassion and wisdom, the two basic and central tenants of Buddhism, one will naturally treat the environment with great respect; with the exact same respect one would show one’s own mother, as is further explained. This intrinsic and profoundly strong relationship makes Buddhism an excellent path for solving environmental problems
http://digitalcollections.sit.edu/isp_collection/717/
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#198386 - 04/13/11 03:02 PM
Re: This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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flicka
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I think Ronda is saying that the article itself is an attempt (using the environment) to draw people to Buddhism.
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#198387 - 04/13/11 03:15 PM
Re: This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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inkblister
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so where is link for your counter-arguement?...
Besides, it also really depends on which sect of Buddhism you are refering to... Just as there are many denominations of christianity, the same is for Buddhism... For example, there is Indian Buddhism, Tibetian Buddhism, Zen Buddhism, etc... And even each of the sects of Buddhism have different sub-sects (exmple: under Zen Buddhism there is Soto-Zen, Jugo-Zen, Pureland-Zen, etc.)... As an example, as I have stated before, I follow Jugo-Sen-Zen Buddhism, which is quite different from Tibetian Buddhism ( which is the most widely recognized and practiced form of Buddhism which most people believe is the only form of Buddhism)...
But also, if one truely understands Buddhism, any and all contradictions are not only recognized, but almost celebrated... This is because it then encourages a Buddhist to constantly re-examine, question, and think sbout their teachings, thus reinforcing ones faith...
Aevory, you once stated before how you find comfort in and practice your faith by "letting go" and "not having to think about it"... To me, such a practice of complacency would lead to taking ones belief for granted, which would lead then to misunderstanding and assumptions that may not necessarily be correct with the teachings of that faith...
But thats just me...
Anyway, nice try in attempting to get under my skin... I assume this is a jab at me for my retort to your "rapture" query... I applaude, laugh, and happily move on...
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#198389 - 04/13/11 03:30 PM
Re: This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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inkblister
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Thanks for the link starlight...
Yeah, I didn't find anything in the article contradictory either (unless you twist it really hard to fit into your own personal agenda, and even then it's a weak arguement)...
But I am willing admit I am a bit biased...
Possibly flicka, but then why not also use environmentalism to recuit Native American religions, or Paganism, Wiccan, Shamanism, Shintoism, and a plethora of other religions that are much more nature based?... I think Rhonduh is just trying to get my ire up...
Edited by inkblister (04/13/11 04:24 PM)
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#198418 - 04/15/11 09:31 AM
Re: This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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ronniechoate34
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The Buddha said that this is the only miracle that he recommends, that this is the only miracle that he endorses. If the Buddha endorsed only the Miracle of Instruction, this has many implications. One implication is that the Buddha did not resort to unethical conversion by resorting to cheap and vulgar exhibition of supernatural power. If people resort to unethical conversion, this shows the bankruptcy of the message that they want to propagate.
Courtesy : Vesak Lipi (2007 Edition)
By Prof: Y. Karunadasa PhD.(Lond.)
This sounds like it's degrading Jesus Christ to me. It sounds like blasphemy. It comes right out and calls what He did an error. Unethical even.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (04/15/11 09:32 AM)
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#198420 - 04/15/11 03:21 PM
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shakey56
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Ronnie whining abt degrading a religion is effing funny!
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#198421 - 04/15/11 05:22 PM
Re: This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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ronniechoate34
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No, that's not funny, and neither is the story of the time that the Buddha visited the city of Nalanda.
The people of Nalanda asked the Buddha to perform a miracle. His reaction was repotedly so impotent that I shouldn't have laughed, but I did. It's sad that anyone listened to him after that nonsense.
Three kinds of miracles, yeah....right.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (04/15/11 05:28 PM)
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#198422 - 04/15/11 06:02 PM
Re: This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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inkblister
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How could Buddha degrade Jesus when Jesus didn't even exist until about 400 years AFTER Buddha?...
I don't believe that the point is to degrade Jesus, but directed toward those who choose to worship and focus on Jesus's so called "miracles" rather than his teachings, which seems to come up as more of an afterthougt than the actual core of who he was...
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Haha shakey, no doubt...
Edited by inkblister (04/15/11 06:04 PM)
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#198425 - 04/15/11 08:20 PM
Re: This is not a Truth -- Buddhism
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Paulwa_dup1
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Jesus is and was, Creator, eterna'l being with God the Father,the one and only, 'I AM, THAT I AM!' Buddha, Mohammed and most of the other iconic founders of world religions were human men born less than 6,000 years ago and were created by the eternal being you call Jesus.Yes this is from the Jewish Bible and the New Testament. Ron is probably answering based on his belief in the bible as the true word of God. Persons of other beliefs will see their religion as the true base for their own beliefs. We each are responsible in the end to defend our lives in front of our creator.
Paul
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