#198234 - 04/05/11 07:00 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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ronniechoate34
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Romans:1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans:1:23: And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Romans:1:24: Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans:1:25: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans:1:26: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans:1:27: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans:1:28: And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Romans:1:29: Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Romans:1:30: Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Romans:1:31: Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Romans:1:32: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Yep, there gonna recieve exactly what they deserve. And they're gonna know that they deserve it too.
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#198235 - 04/05/11 07:31 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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Yep, there gonna recieve exactly what they deserve. And they're gonna know that they deserve it too.
Romans:1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
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#198236 - 04/05/11 07:37 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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ronniechoate34
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Yep, there gonna recieve exactly what they deserve. And they're gonna know that they deserve it too. Romans:1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
They sure did.
And that's when the devil had them ready to be ruled over. He just stepped in and took control. Many of them never saw it coming and hardly anyone put up a fight. And why would they? They weren't even aware of what was happening to them.
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#198237 - 04/05/11 07:43 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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That's exactly how it is today.
2Peter:3:3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Peter:3:4: And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
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#198238 - 04/05/11 08:51 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
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#198242 - 04/06/11 06:41 AM
Re: Sharia law.
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Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Whatever helps you to sleep at night. But then again, you're dreaming all of the time if you can't see how close we are to His coming.
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#198243 - 04/06/11 07:31 AM
Re: Sharia law.
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same old crap, different topic. if christians are so bugged by 'worldly' wisdom. why do they go to the hospital, buy a car or a phone, use computer technology to futher their own goals and to aid in worship.
it's called talking out of both sides of your mouth.
YOU decide what 'wisdom' is suspect and which advanced techonolgies are appropriately employed. thus you are using your own wisdom and thereby going against your own warning.
YOU also decide when to live as if there's a future and when to bang others over the head with the threat of christ's return. ain't it odd how that is almost NEVER referenced as a positive. christians are only charmed by the rapture when they can tell someone else that they aren't going to be very happy when it occurs.
i think it is universally wise to make room for people to be who they are and it coorelates to bible lessons. even those dying in the flood, or nailing jesus to the cross, or feeding christians to lions, were essential to the stories. there is no escaping the reality that, according to the bible, god requires 'sinners' to play out their destiny.
maybe police brutality is part of a modern gospel that no one is bothering to document?
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#198244 - 04/06/11 07:41 AM
Re: Sharia law.
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ronniechoate34
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same old crap, different topic. if christians are so bugged by 'worldly' wisdom. why do they go to the hospital, buy a car or a phone, use computer technology to futher their own goals and to aid in worship.
it's called talking out of both sides of your mouth.
YOU decide what 'wisdom' is suspect and which advanced techonolgies are appropriately employed. thus you are using your own wisdom and thereby going against your own warning.
YOU also decide when to live as if there's a future and when to bang others over the head with the threat of christ's return. ain't it odd how that is almost NEVER referenced as a positive. christians are only charmed by the rapture when they can tell someone else that they aren't going to be very happy when it occurs.
i think it is universally wise to make room for people to be who they are and it coorelates to bible lessons. even those dying in the flood, or nailing jesus to the cross, or feeding christians to lions, were essential to the stories. there is no escaping the reality that, according to the bible, god requires 'sinners' to play out their destiny.
maybe police brutality is part of a modern gospel that no one is bothering to document?
Isaiah:64:1: Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence,
Isaiah:64:1: Oh that thou wouldest rend the heavens, that thou wouldest come down, that the mountains might flow down at thy presence,
Isaiah:64:2: As when the melting fire burneth, the fire causeth the waters to boil, to make thy name known to thine adversaries, that the nations may tremble at thy presence!
Isaiah:64:3: When thou didst terrible things which we looked not for, thou camest down, the mountains flowed down at thy presence.
Isaiah:64:4: For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
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#198245 - 04/06/11 08:02 AM
Re: Sharia law.
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think of it like this. if there weren't people outside of the loop, what would become of christianity? without groups to be better than, there'd be no reason for your particular brand of christian 'insight'.
when i was a kid, preachers used to rant about gambling and divorce and women not knowing their place. now that those sins are common to many members of most congregations, it isn't near as sinful or preached about.
so odd...the persistant uphill trek, that if all of america said, 'we've sworn off the sinnin', what now?,' parts of 'the church' would be so fixated on damning others that they wouldn't even have an answer.
the early settlers tried to live like puritans to sooth the religious authorities and it wasn't good enough.
the 50's americans went to church as a matter of course, conforming to an implied social imperative and it wasn't good enough.
what could possibly be the moral to the christian story? perhaps it has something to do with NOTHING EVER being good enough.
Edited by kan5a5 (04/06/11 09:28 AM)
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#198246 - 04/06/11 09:47 AM
Re: Sharia law.
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think of it like this. if there weren't people outside of the loop, what would become of christianity? without groups to be better than, there'd be no reason for your particular brand of christian 'insight'.
when i was a kid, preachers used to rant about gambling and divorce and women not knowing their place. now that those sins are common to many members of most congregations, it isn't near as sinful or preached about.
so odd...the persistant uphill trek, that if all of america said, 'we sworn off the sinning, what now?,' parts of 'the church' would be so fixated on damning others that they wouldn't have an answer.
Haven't you heard? No one is with out sin. But that doesn't mean that I should just go ahead and live in error just because it feels right, or because there's pleasure in it.
No, I'm gonna buck up and face the truth, and the truth is that unless I repent of my sins and shed myself of this worldly baggage I am certain to go to hell.
No other god worshiped has shed his blood for the sins of men. But one Jesus Christ, the very manifestation of God in the sight of men was obedient unto death for us. He suffered humiliation and torture for us and conquered death before ascending into heaven. Why does not everyone worship such a gracious God? It's a mystery.
I know that it's not popular for people to admit that sin actually exists. By that what I mean is sin Bible explains it, but face it. It's there, and it's not going anywhere until God removes it from its place.
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#198247 - 04/06/11 10:20 AM
Re: Sharia law.
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yes...in our house, we call such issues 'the unsolvable problem.'
god allowed sin to enter our lives - so god could be more pissed about sin - so that he would require himself to send a version of himself to earth to pay for our sins - BUT only for those people who jump through an ever changing set of hoops that serve as proof to ruling members of a church that you REALLY get it - nevermind that serial killers (in wichita, ks, the BTK killer, elder in his church), pedophiles (priests), and malevolent dictators are more successful at attaining that pass from religious leaders than free thinkers ever will be. in short, IT CAN BE FAKED, IT IS FAKED...but damn those who are tortured with original thought, that's BAD...horseshit!
claim knowledge - get pelted with scriptures about leaning not on your own understanding.
mindlessly echo christian dogma - get a free pass to boast about knowledge.
get real theatrical about mindlessly echoing christian dogma - get PAID to boast about knowledge.
why would a universally supreme entity require such a corn-ball-foolish and obviously HUMAN wrangle? it just doesn't make sense.
now pull out the 'our ways are not god's ways' scriptures...
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#198248 - 04/06/11 12:01 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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there's gotta be a better way...something more. i have no objection to be spiritually (ful)filled. following the religious rules of the day didn't work in jesus' day...and maybe it doesn't now. maybe?
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#198255 - 04/06/11 02:52 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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... if you can't see how close we are to His coming.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
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#198256 - 04/06/11 03:32 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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ronniechoate34
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... if you can't see how close we are to His coming.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
I take it that you don't believe that these are the very last days.
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#198258 - 04/06/11 03:40 PM
Re: Sharia law.
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I take it that you don't believe that these are the very last days.
I know these are the very last days.
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