#197938 - 03/14/11 01:53 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ronniechoate34
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The real riddle is why are people so whiny and unable to accept judgement?
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#197940 - 03/14/11 01:56 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ronniechoate34
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Here's a riddle.
What is it?
Thw word has seven letters.
Preceeded God.
Greater than God.
More evil than the devil.
All poor people have it.
Wealthy people need it.
If you eat it, you will die.
What is it?
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#197954 - 03/14/11 04:57 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ronniechoate34
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I suppose that the truth is just too hot to handle. 
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#197956 - 03/14/11 05:03 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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Greg
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nothing, now answer the riddle I referenced
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#197959 - 03/14/11 05:27 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ronniechoate34
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Greg, why did you delete your earlier post?
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#197988 - 03/16/11 12:20 AM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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It's pretty clear to me. Jesus is Jesus, God is god and they are bound together as one by the energy of the Holy Spirit.
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#197992 - 03/16/11 11:26 AM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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the good thing is that you can imagine god, jesus, and the holy spirit any way you'd like, as people do, and no one can tell you're wrong. i believe the trinity is 20% holy spirit, 45% jesus, 30% god, and 5% beau monde seasoning.
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#197994 - 03/16/11 12:48 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ronniechoate34
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John:3:34: For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.John:3:35: The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
John:3:36: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
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#197995 - 03/16/11 03:32 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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kan5a5
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i find scripture confusing.
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#197996 - 03/16/11 03:58 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ronniechoate34
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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
God appears evil because He punishes the wicked. Anyone who is wicked despises the God of the Bible because He represents punishment of their misdeeds. Men have twisted the very nature of the true God of the Bible simply to escape the idea that their actions are evil.
God deals with evil in His time and not ours. We can all rest assured that our time to be judged is right around the corner. And, when God decides to ultimately destroy all evil it will be at just the right moment. A moment chosen by God and not men.
Ecclesiastes:9:12: For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them.
Hebrews:9:27: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Proverbs:16:4: The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
Deuteronomy:7:9: Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
Deuteronomy:7:10: And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.
Is God evil? He sure is, to those who oppose Him.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Here is your answer.
Romans:5:12: Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Now, believe it or not, those are the facts. But anyone who'd like to worry themselves stupid over such things as the riddle of duffer dumb butt is welcome to do so.
Personally, I'd like to think God is trying to teach us all a little something.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (03/16/11 06:42 PM)
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#198000 - 03/17/11 09:35 AM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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i used to almost envy those with a firm grip on their interpretation of scripture and unshakable faith. any more i see it as a lack of imagination.
interpreting what you experience as components of a universal plan is much more difficult than absorbing some 'experts' take on what the bible REALLY means. and everyone does it. they take a scripture whose meaning is fairly obvious and shade it with innuendos to bolster their exisiting point of view. theology, bible study, have never been about learning something new; they've always been unadulterated indoctrination.
do you want to be part of a religious past or a spiritual future?
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#198001 - 03/17/11 11:56 AM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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Our only goal should be to absorb the word of God and do our best to follow and please Him while we are on this earth. Enoch of the old testament so pleased God that God took Him.
What a testimony.
Paul
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#198009 - 03/18/11 04:07 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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Paul I
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I know a few guys out in Jersey that will do the same for you.
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#198032 - 03/21/11 04:56 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ronniechoate34
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I believe that it's evil to ignore the word of God. It's also very perilous to try and master your own destiny. It's all vanity anyway. Once you're out, you're out and there's no coming back to live in this place ever again.
We're all going that way. It doesn't matter what you believe,or who you worship or don't worship. Not even lies and murder has ever saved a soul from judgment by the Almighty God.
Some people sure do like their fairy tales and their story lies though. To them I suppose that it must be better than the truth. It's satan piping out the feel good lies and being all religious that has gotten people all stupified.
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#198033 - 03/21/11 05:18 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ghoti
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Ronnie, what proof can you offer that the Bible is any more valid than the holy books of other religions? The vast majority of people just go along with whatever faith dominates their culture, and being Christian is the default position for most of the western world while the other 2/3 of the world's population disagrees.
IMO trying to find God in any ancient book is foolishness. True appreciation of the glory of the creator comes from studying his creation, and that's what science is all about.
Edited by ghoti (03/21/11 05:19 PM)
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