#197340 - 01/28/11 07:27 PM
Jesus Died for Us
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ævory
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1 Peter 2:24-25
The most brutal example of divine justice is found in the New Testament, not the Old. We see the most violent expression of God's wrath and justice in the crucifixion of His own Son. If anybody had room to complain that He was not being treated fairly, it was Jesus Christ, who was not guilty of even one sin! He was the only innocent person who ever lived, yet He suffered a horrible, cruel death. If we were to become upset or offended at something that seems to be unjust, this would be it.
The crucifixion, similar to the Flood, the casting out of the Amorites, and so forth, is simultaneously the most just and the most gracious act in history. It would have been absolutely diabolical of God to punish Jesus if His Son had not first voluntarily taken on Himself the sins of all the world. Even though He was innocent to that point, once He took upon Himself that concentrated load of sin, He became the most repugnant thing that ever existed on earth before God. He became an obscene and accursed thing, and God executed His wrath. He acted in total impartiality. God could not overlook sin, even when it touched His Son.
Jesus Christ did this for us. Christ took the justice that was to fall on us, and He paid for it with His priceless life. It is the "for us" aspect that displays the majesty of the grace of God.
We cringe at God's justice because it is so unusual, since most of the time He is so gracious. Human nature deceives us into taking it for granted, but we need to keep it in mind because it just as integral to His character.
John W. Ritenbaugh
Read more: http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuse...4#ixzz1CNpSA342
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#197341 - 01/28/11 09:25 PM
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There is no greater love than that of God the Father and Jesus christ our saviour and their Holy Spirit. They gave their all to save mankind and to bring us home again.
Without them there is no life or hope with love.
Thanks for posting this Ronda.
Paul
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#197344 - 01/29/11 07:37 AM
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#197345 - 01/29/11 08:13 AM
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1John:5:7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Three in one, that's the power of God.
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#197349 - 01/29/11 03:07 PM
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Or not 
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#197354 - 01/29/11 08:17 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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The rapture will be proof of God's power. Till then we can watch prophecy unroll with wars and rumors of wars expand across the lands like what is happening right now in Egypt. The nations are breaking up. Well just the way I see things these days along with earthquakes, volcano's and raging weather.
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#197355 - 01/29/11 08:28 PM
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Even though He was innocent to that point, once He took upon Himself that concentrated load of sin, He became the most repugnant thing that ever existed on earth before God. He became an obscene and accursed thing, and God executed His wrath. He acted in total impartiality. God could not overlook sin, even when it touched His Son.
I can't believe that Christ became the most repugnant thing that ever existed on earth before God. Dying for our sins was exacty what Jesus's mission was all about. He knew it; God knew it.
God said Jesus was "His beloved Son" and He was "well pleased" with Him.
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#197356 - 01/29/11 10:32 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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The bible does say He became sin for us in substitution but I think His blood covered our sins and God never looked down on Him without love. As Jesus died He turned away from His son who was suffering and left Jesus to carry the burden alone and I think God suffered greatly at that time also. Just shows you how great a love they had for mankind.
Paul
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#197359 - 01/30/11 12:01 PM
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ronniechoate34
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Just shows you how great a love they had for mankind.
Paul
What happened,,did your gods die or something?
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#197361 - 01/30/11 02:51 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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Paulwa_dup1
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God is eternal. My english is a bit poor, Ronnie.
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#197369 - 01/31/11 09:33 AM
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ronniechoate34
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Do you understand this?
John:8:56: Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
John:8:57: Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
John:8:58: Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John:8:59: Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (01/31/11 09:41 AM)
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#197370 - 01/31/11 09:40 AM
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ronniechoate34
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Paul, do you understand that only God is worthy of worship?
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#197375 - 01/31/11 01:24 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Ronnie are you saying Jesus is not worthy of worship???
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#197376 - 01/31/11 01:26 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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Paulwa_dup1
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I believe the bible says Jesus is God also along with God the father and the Holy Spirit. The three are one in nature and power.
Paul
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#197387 - 01/31/11 09:52 PM
Re: Jesus Died for Us
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ronniechoate34
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Why didn't Jesus say that before Abraham was, we were?
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