Even though He was innocent to that point, once He took upon Himself that concentrated load of sin, He became the most repugnant thing that ever existed on earth before God. He became an obscene and accursed thing, and God executed His wrath. He acted in total impartiality. God could not overlook sin, even when it touched His Son.

Just shows you how great a love they had for mankind.
Paul

There's more scriptures to prove that I'm not being heretical. Would you like to see them?

I think they are all God but in three manifestations of Him. The Trinity is a difficult concept for us to conceive properly.
Paul

I know that God is not limited.

and yet the riddle of Epicurus continues to predominate

Christians like you are constantly going around shooting off your mouth and telling everyone else how to live their lives, and that's why I personally speak out.

The idea that Christians are being persecuted and dying for their beliefs in large numbers today is totally bogus. In the Iraq and Afghan wars alone we have killed dozens of their people for every one of us killed.

Christians committed mass genocide on the native populations of Norrth and South America, Africa, and everyplace they colonized and sent missionaries to "save" the heathen. Whenever Christians have had total control over nearly any government in the past they have treated non-believers with murderous brutality.

I'd have a lot more respect for the Christian faith if its leadership followed the example of Jesus. To be fair, most Christians I know are caring and decent people, but the ones who try to force their beliefs on others are just as dangerous as zealots from any other faith.

Christians like you are constantly going around shooting off your mouth and telling everyone else how to live their lives,

No matter how cocksure anyone is in their beliefs, our ability to perceive the vastness of the creator is so limited that no one can ever know more than a tiny part of him. We're like the blind men trying to describe an elephant, except the difference is infinitely greater.

You have no more concept of what God is thinking or doing than an ant does of humans, Ronda. Quit pretending to have secret knmowledge and insight that no human being could ever have.

And if someone wants to believe in the Bible that's fine with me. Just don't go telling others who disagree that they're wrong.

You have no more concept of what God is thinking or doing than an ant does of humans, Ronda. Quit pretending to have secret knmowledge and insight that no human being could ever have.

And if someone wants to believe in the Bible that's fine with me. Just don't go telling others who disagree that they're wrong.

Question: when Jesus said to shake the dust off your shoes ? when you leave a city who has rejected Jesus are we to do that leaving a home who rejects Jesus too as you go house to house? I'm thinking we should in obediance to Jesus's words, not encouraging that we should but What I'm saying is Maybe that's what Jesus would want us to do., what say ye?

Answer: When we give someone the gospel and they reject it, you are to shake the dust off your feet and go on because you have done all that God has required of you to do for that person. You are then not responsible for their not knowing about God. It is up to us to tell them, then they have the responsibility for their own decisions.

GET ON THE NATCH

GOOD GOD, BERNICE!




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and yet, medical knowledge - used by christians every hour of every day
mechanical knowledge - employed by christians every hour of every day
technological knowledge - used by christians every day and even IN WORSHIP
musical knowledge - exploited by christians as long as the musicians fake a 'right spirit' about it
theatrical knowledge - so essential to the christian experience that it is impossible to seperate the two

so...it all must be relative to work, right? no hard and fast rules?

yes, i am keenly aware that thought and sincerity don't figure in to the church vision. are you suggesting that, if i tried to keep my doubts hidden, i could trick god into believing i had none? if not, what would be an incentive for keeping them under wraps? doesn't the bible include accounts of doubting AND being used by god?

or...in your preferred language:

John 20:24-25
24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came.

25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

Luke 1:18
18 Zechariah asked the angel, “How can I be sure of this? I am an old man and my wife is well along in years.”

Judges 6:14-23
14 The LORD turned to him and said, “Go in the strength you have and save Israel out of Midian’s hand. Am I not sending you?”

15 “Pardon me, my lord,” Gideon replied, “but how can I save Israel? My clan is the weakest in Manasseh, and I am the least in my family.”

16 The LORD answered, “I will be with you, and you will strike down all the Midianites, leaving none alive.”

17 Gideon replied, “If now I have found favor in your eyes, give me a sign that it is really you talking to me.

18 Please do not go away until I come back and bring my offering and set it before you.”

You have no business working in a church. Wait and see if you don't regret that.

in twenty years of working for a church, i have lived through seasons of regret, sure.

in twenty years of working for a church, i have lived through seasons of regret, sure.

Many people use John 1:1 to prove the trinity but a thorough study of the original Greek shows differently.
Please remember doctrine does not identify True Christians but LOVE does.

I personally think if you do this you will come to Jesus in time as the creator of all life.