#197216 - 01/25/11 11:23 AM
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Greg
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Just a coincidence. A cell phone is just a hand held radio transmitter/receiver, and requires a network of towers to receive the signal, carry it, and send trhe reply back to you. Without the tower network cell phones are useless.
Even today there are lots of "dead zones" where your cell phone is out of range of a tower, and there were no cell pnone towers in 1928.
Do you really think a time traveller would have a convential cell phone? geeesh, he/she would probably have a satellite mobile phone.
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#197230 - 01/25/11 05:08 PM
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ronniechoate34
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Yeah,I imagine cell phone usage could work across the time line. I don't know how it would work, but I am sure that someone has an idea.
Ghoti, do you believe that science may someday enable men to live indeffinitely?
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#197237 - 01/25/11 09:21 PM
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On the living forever part, no I don't think so and I sure hope not. The earth is already getting so overcrowded with humans that many areas have a serious shortage of food and water. If people stopped dying and babies kept being born we'd very rapidly run out of resources.
On the cell phone thing - yeah there are satellite cell phones, but the satellites didn't exist in 1928 either. I don't know why she was holding her hand to her ear but it's pure coincidence that it mimics someone talking on a phone.
Personally, I think traveling back in time is impossible since there are just too many paradoxes that would result from it.
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#197238 - 01/25/11 11:42 PM
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inkblister
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I did a little research and I think the device is an early version of a hearing aid... I found a picture of some that were used in the 1920's and were essentially just a small battery powered amplifier that was held against the ear...
Hope this helps solve the mystery...
*Edit- I just found another website that confirms my suspicion...
Time Traveler Video Debunked
Edited by inkblister (01/25/11 11:52 PM)
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#197243 - 01/26/11 09:47 AM
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ronniechoate34
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On the living forever part, no I don't think so and I sure hope not. The earth is already getting so overcrowded with humans that many areas have a serious shortage of food and water. If people stopped dying and babies kept being born we'd very rapidly run out of resources.
On the cell phone thing - yeah there are satellite cell phones, but the satellites didn't exist in 1928 either. I don't know why she was holding her hand to her ear but it's pure coincidence that it mimics someone talking on a phone.
Personally, I think traveling back in time is impossible since there are just too many paradoxes that would result from it.
Science is constantly making leaping bounds.Nowadays we can grow human tissue, and clone people. There's even talk of implanting chips into the brain that can store emotion and memory, also chips with the capability of receiving downloaded information into the brain.
Ghoti, why can't this technology be used to keep somone "alive" for a great many years?
About the cell phone thing,,,I don't know what that thing in the movie clip was. Maybe it was a hearing aid, I really don't care about that. I do care about the truth, and the truth is that time travel is not only imaginable but given enough time it could turn into a real deal. If it hasn't already, because if it is real, we wouldn't know about it.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (01/26/11 09:48 AM)
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#197247 - 01/26/11 11:01 AM
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ghoti
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It's always risky to say something is impossible since science comes up with amazing new things on a regular basis. Life certainly has been extended by new developments, and most of us here would have died several times already if we had lived back before the invention of antibiotics and modern medical procedures.
Immortality is a huge stretch, though, and I don't see it. The function of our brains deteriorates as we age, and we might end up overpopulated by healthy human vegetables at some point if life extension goes too far.
The laws of thermodynamics include a concept called entropy, which states that any system tends to become less organized over time and that time only flows in one direction. Now it's not impossible that someone will find a way to make the massive reversal of entropy that it would take to travel backward in time, but it seems very unlikely to me.
IMO if someone did travel into the past their very presence would inevitably change things, even in a very small way like swatting a mosquito that would otherwise have lived or squashing a few blades of grass. Once you make even a tiny change in the past it has been altered, and the repercussions from that would change the future you came from. That's where the paradox comes from.
IMO we might some day learn a method of seeing into the past, but I doubt actual physical time travel is possible.
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#197253 - 01/26/11 12:31 PM
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ronniechoate34
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Well ghoti, that's certainly your opinion.
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#197256 - 01/26/11 01:19 PM
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inkblister
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For a good exaple of the consequences of time travel paradox check out Ray Bradbury's "A Sound of Thunder"...
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#197266 - 01/26/11 04:21 PM
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ronniechoate34
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I think that time travel would have to be extremely controlled and limited to only certain individuals.
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#197269 - 01/26/11 05:15 PM
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ghoti
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It's just about impossible to keep a lid tightly held on any new technology since other countries hear about it and want to copy or steal it. Look what happened to the atomic bomb - the US only kept it secret for a few years and that was certainly something we didn't want others to find out about.
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#197270 - 01/26/11 06:39 PM
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ronniechoate34
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I don't know, ghoti.
If the governments vowed to keep the people in the dark about these matters it would be to their advantage to do it.
Secrets can be powerful.
Proverbs:25:2: It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
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#197296 - 01/27/11 01:50 PM
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ghoti
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Ronnie, the only way the government could keep something like time travel secret would be if we had an incredibly powerful and oppressive dictator who had control over the entire world. I just don't see anything like that ever happening, since people are just too cantankerous to accept that without rebelling.
We can't even impose our will on a small bunch of primitive goat-herders in Afghanistan after 10 years of trying with the world's most powerful military, and the Russians failed at it before us. What chance would a global dictatorship ever have?
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