#197146 - 01/23/11 10:40 AM
What's your view of the afterlife?
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ghoti
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I'm pretty sure nobody really believes we'll all sprout wings and spend eternity sitting on clouds strumming harps (LOL). Different faiths have a variety of views of what (if anything) happens to us after death.
If you've given it any thought, what do you think the afterlife will actually be like?
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#197148 - 01/23/11 02:43 PM
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I think, when the brain dies, there is absolutely nothing. And what is so bad or frightening about that. I consider myself a Christian, but am perplexed about an afterlife, perhaps my Faith is weak.
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#197149 - 01/23/11 03:47 PM
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ghoti
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My view is that we each have some driving force or spark inside us that was placed there by the creator. It makes the difference between a living organism and just a collection of dead chemicals. IMO that spark returns to the creator when we die and we are reunited with him in that way.
I also feel that we make that spark stronger or weaker depending on how we have lived our lives, and that plays into how we are evaluated. The main body of the energy force making up the creator is either strengthened or diminished depending on each of us.
Just my personal opinion, of course, and most will certainly disagree.
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#197151 - 01/23/11 06:32 PM
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My idea of the afterlife is similar to ghoti's but we differ on a few thoughts.
I think that our spark is negative or positive depending on how we have lived our lives, and that plays into what energy our spark is attracted toward. I don't think the main body of the energy force making up the Almighty Power(s) is either strengthened or diminished depending on each of us. I think it is our energy that is rejuvinated, or sapped of strength.
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#197152 - 01/23/11 06:46 PM
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I think, when the brain dies, there is absolutely nothing. And what is so bad or frightening about that.
I don't know why people are afraid of there being nothingness. I am not worried about this possibility in the least.
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#197153 - 01/23/11 06:55 PM
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Paul I
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This is from an article in the current Wired online.
"In the weird world of quantum physics, two linked particles can share a single fate, even when they’re miles apart.
Now, two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky effect, called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.
If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in quantum computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the universe.
You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing the middle time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s University of Queensland, lead author of the new study."
My belief in the afterlife centers around these concepts which allows the energy or "soul" of our life too exist across time and space. What the nature of that life would be like is pretty unexplainable. It does make me wonder if we will exist in a different state or in a different physical location.
Check out the article on wired.com.
Edited by Paul I (01/23/11 07:36 PM)
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#197160 - 01/24/11 08:49 AM
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ronniechoate34
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The afterlife is for judgment.
We are appointed 1 death. And after that there's judgment.
Ecclesiastes:3:17: I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
Ecclesiastes:11:9: Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment.
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#197164 - 01/24/11 01:09 PM
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I think we are "born again" and again until we reach a state of knowing and move to the next plain. Yep, I'm mixing modern Christianity with reincarnation. And if I'm wrong, no big deal. I have been sealed as Christ's own forever so whatever is on the other side will be good. 
I used to think about it a great deal now I'm kinda zen-ish.
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#197166 - 01/24/11 01:18 PM
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Ronnie, what happens after the judgement? What do you see as existence once that has taken place?
Eternity is a long time - what will it be like?
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#197167 - 01/24/11 01:18 PM
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MerryA
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My belief in the afterlife centers around these concepts which allows the energy or "soul" of our life too exist across time and space. What the nature of that life would be like is pretty unexplainable. It does make me wonder if we will exist in a different state or in a different physical location.
There is a book trilogy that deals specifically with this that I love - The Oversoul Seven Trilogy by Jane Roberts.
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#197170 - 01/24/11 01:25 PM
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ronniechoate34
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I think we are "born again" and again until we reach a state of knowing and move to the next plain. Yep, I'm mixing modern Christianity with reincarnation. And if I'm wrong, no big deal. I have been sealed as Christ's own forever so whatever is on the other side will be good. I used to think about it a great deal now I'm kinda zen-ish.
What you are is confused. And it is a big deal if you are wrong about the true faith.
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#197171 - 01/24/11 01:27 PM
Re: What's your view of the afterlife?
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ronniechoate34
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Ronnie, what happens after the judgement? What do you see as existence once that has taken place?
Eternity is a long time - what will it be like?
I don't know these answers, ghoti. Only God, and those who have gone on before us know the answers to those questions.
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#197174 - 01/24/11 02:24 PM
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flicka
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Ronnie, do you believe the description of heaven in the bible, or do you think it is just an analogy
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#197177 - 01/24/11 03:17 PM
Re: What's your view of the afterlife?
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ghoti
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Nature is the ultimate recycler since nothing ever "goes away" but rather is just converted into other forms. The same thing is true of energy as well as matter.
If our "life force" is a form of energy then it would make sense that it would be recycled in some way, too. That gives support to the idea of some form of reincarnation.
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#197195 - 01/24/11 07:29 PM
Re: What's your view of the afterlife?
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yoda
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I LOVE this subject! I just finished a 3 month study with some friends at my house on the subject of heaven. Using Randy Alcorn's book titled "Heaven."
Job 14:14
If a man dies, shall he live again?
Anyway, the resurrection from the dead is the pure hope of the gospel of JESUS Christ. I fully expect to walk again in this body on this earth for at least a 1000 years at the return of CHRIST. This hope makes living in a paralyzed body just a temporay inconveinence.
Thats what I beleive and I'm sticking to it!
yoda
Job 14:14
14 If a man dies, shall he live again?
All the days of my hard service I will wait,
Till my change comes.
Job 19:25-27
25 I know that my Redeemerc lives,
and that in the end he will stand upon the earth.d
26 And after my skin has been destroyed,
yete inf my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see him
with my own eyes — I, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me!
John 3:16-17
16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,f that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 3:36
36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
John 10:28-29
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.
Acts 13:48
48 When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.
2 Cor 5:1-5
5 Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
1 Tim 6:12-13
ake hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
John 11:25-26
25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; 26 and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
Acts 23:6
"My brothers, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee. I stand on trial because of my hope in the resurrection of the dead."
Acts 24:15
5 and I have the same hope in God as these men, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.
1 Cor 15:13-23
13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.
20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
1 Cor 15:55-57
55 "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"
56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
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