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#195752 - 11/28/10 06:09 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: ronniechoate34
Paul, you'd better gird up the loins of your mind because you have a tendancy to live in the land of make believe as far as the Bible is concerned.

Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
[R]onnie II think you need to dive into the scriptures for yourself and leave these false religious leaders alone.They will take you where you don't really want to go.
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#195754 - 11/28/10 07:37 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: flicka]
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Loc: tennerida 		I've no doubt that God has plans for the Jewish people. The early church was founded by the Jewish people and there are Jews all over the world today that God is protecting and blessing as we live and breathe.
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#195755 - 11/28/10 07:58 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Originally Posted By: ronniechoate34
I've no doubt that ...

If this comment is for me, we agree. My quoting you & Paul was just a lil poke for my own amusement. Or, is your remark a comment on the verses(prophecy) in Isaiah?

Edited by flicka (11/28/10 08:00 PM)
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#195773 - 11/29/10 12:13 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: flicka]
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Loc: Washington 		Ronnie what point were you trying to make with at scripture from Isaiah and the Muslims? I don't understand?? One day the remainng Jews and Muslims will lve together in peace and harmony but according to the biblethe Muslims will be sojourners with the Jews. I do seem to remember there being an altar to the Lord in Egypt and a large highway to be built in the future over there.The future after the wars will be great for all peoplebecause Jesus will be the King of the world and it will be learning and prosperous for a thousand years according to prophecy then satan wll be loosed for the final sweep to cleanse the earth of evil intentioned people and then all will vanish and we will all be standing before Jesus Christ at the great whte throne for the final judgement of those who are against Jesus Christ and God. We don't know what the punishment or length of it is for sure for everyone but it will happen for sure. We don't know what the extent of God's mercy will be in that judgement but those found in sin without repentance with ther sins covered with the blood of Jesus Christ's great sacrifice will face punishment for evil done in their body. All the dead and living sinner will have their personal and extremely detailed day in court facing their accusers and victims. It will be a great day of tears on both sides to clear the slate honestly for every person whoever lived as a human being.It will be interesting to see how unbelievers who have done good deeds all their lives will fare in this judgement when weighed in the scales of mercy and justice. I wonder how long all this will take..but we will be outside of times existance I think so it may not even be apparent to anyone.
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#195809 - 11/29/10 06:27 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: tennerida 		I wasn't making any refference to Isaiah.
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#195810 - 11/29/10 07:04 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Originally Posted By: ronniechoate34
Paul, Jesus is coming again, but He is coming not again and again.


Ronnie, does this mean you don't believe in the pre-tribulation rapture of all believers?
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#195811 - 11/29/10 07:35 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Loc: Washington 		Sorry Ronnie it was Ronda (aevory)'s comment. Seeing Ghoti's post, what rapture theory if any do you follow Ronnie?
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#195814 - 11/29/10 07:59 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: tennerida 		I believe that there will be no pre tribulation rapture. Jesus is coming back once more but not twice.
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#195817 - 11/29/10 08:50 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Loc: Washington 		Jesus comes to earth twice. First for crucifiction and resurrection. Secondly to set up His kingdom.In the pre trib rapture He doesn't return to earth but gathers His church into heaven. Don't know how near the earth He comes for His church but He doesn't come to the earth and only for very short time at that. They are gathered to heaven in the blink of an eye. First the dead in Christ then all living christians. According to the Apostle Paul who was caught up to heaven and saw things no man could utter. So you are right Jesus returns to earth only twice before the 1000 year millenium.
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#195825 - 11/30/10 10:42 AM Re: Strange.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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#195826 - 11/30/10 02:30 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Ronnie what point were you trying to make with at scripture from Isaiah and the Muslims? I don't understand??

Yes, it was Ronda's post & it was used as proof of prophecy being fulfilled...so, I am also wondering exactly what this means with regard to prophecy. What is your take on it, Paulwa?
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Everyone of you has proof of a fulfilled prophecy on his/her ID card; the fact that your last name
is not ‘Mohamed’, or any other Muslim name, is a fulfillment of the word of Isaiah about Egypt, “In that day
there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord at its
border…Then the Lord will be known to Egypt and the Egyptians will know the Lord” (Is 19:19-21) ”
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#195827 - 11/30/10 02:46 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: flicka]
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Loc: Washington 		Ronda will have to explain,Flicka. I don't really know.
Ronnie if you look at all the scrptures concerning the second coming and the rapture you will see that each verse describes a different viewpoint concerning where Jesus is at the time of the fullfilment of that verse. For instance the rapture scriptures say that Jesus calls us up to meet Him in the heavens while other verses speak of Jesus coming to earth in the second coming to set up His kingdom after the great tribulation and His feet touch the mt. of Olives and the mountain splits with a great earthquake. Now these two verses describe two seperate events and times. Other verses say the anti christ cannot be revealed till the church is taken away. Other scriptures say the church will be removed and not suffer the tribulation to come on the earth. The christians you see at the end of the tribulation are people who come to Jesus during the great tribulationn and many of them are beheaded and otherwse killed for their beliefs. There is no end time rapture. Jesus returns to claim the earth at His second coming. If you read it and search out the scriptures you will see this is the right interpretation as the scriptures are very plain on this. There ar many other scriptures that prove this to be so and when compared to each other they definately dilineate two totally diferent events explaining the Rapture as compared to the Second Coming.
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#195829 - 11/30/10 03:01 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
If you read it ...

Careful! You are going to piss Ronda off with this type of condescending attitude. Don't you think we have read those scriptures ourselves and simply disagree with your interpretation?
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#195832 - 11/30/10 03:07 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: flicka]
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Loc: Washington 		No Ronda can explain what she means, maybe she is seeing something we have missed in that scripture.

Flicka just cannot see how you can reach any other conclusion on the rapture when the scriptures are as plain as the nose on your face delineating the rapture and the second coming as two seperate events supported by scripture. Oh well..See you on the way up..
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#195833 - 11/30/10 03:32 PM Re: Strange.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Flicka just cannot see how you can reach any other conclusion on the rapture when the scriptures are as plain as the nose on your face ...

If this were true, all Christian religions would consider it part of their dogma.
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