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LOL!

Faith is ideally supposed to inspire us to be a better person.

MERRY...you can laugh or make less the importance of salvation (how you can, is beyond me...but)

Off-topic question to Ronda: You probably didn't see where I posted this question to you at PQ - just curious as to whether your screen name has any connection to Brian Campbell?

I find it curious that people will quote as gospel words from the bible and use them to make points when in their heart they think the bible is just a dusty old book of mythology and Jesus is just a myth of a man who at best is just a man and that any other book of religion is equal or that the bible was formed from those old books they perceive to be earlier writings than the bible. God will be happy to set them straight one day soon.
In my opinion.
Paul

I find it curious that people who claim the Bible is the inerrant word of God always dodge the question when shown quotes from the Bible that contradict statements they make.

But it's baffling that you would use it as a debate throwout To anyone. Don't you see why?

No, ghoti, why the thought? what connection were you thinking of?

He's the lead singer for a group called Aevory Nash. I thought maybe that was the inspiration for your name.

Jesus tells you that if you don't help others in need you are doomed:

Matthew 25:41: Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44: Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45: Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

As does James:

James 2:[20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
[21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
[22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
[23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
[24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
[25] Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
[26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Are these just more of those passages that you can choose to ignore when they don't fit your mind-set?

So do you think you need faith, ghoti?

Do you think everyone needs it (faith) in order to get that drive to be a better person?

Eveeryone has faith in something. Since we all have different life experiences we just see the world differently. I'm just asking whether your faith or ethical philosophy inspires you to take actions in your life.

IMO the passage from Matthew 25 is clearly a mandate from Jesus to his followers that they are required to help those in need. How else can you interpret it?

No response to this? Are these just more of those passages that you can choose to ignore when they don't fit your mind-set?

That is not what I asked you.

I'd like an answer.

But, to go on with my own thoughts, you use 'faith' in a manner of which it is meant to be the driving force in what makes people do good things. Insulting to an atheist or not?

Since you are not an atheist, then if others could answer that, please do.

Ghoti, I am very tired of your never answering directly. One has to come at you over and again with what they want answered. You never do.

You also say in your latest posting that you are just 'asking': does your faith or ethical philosophy inspire you to take actions in your life? yet, the beginning of this thread is not a questioning of others. It is you saying that 'faith' is suppose to inspire (my word is, drive) one to do good deeds to better their lives.

I don't need ronnie to tell us what he does in his life. Do you? I tell ya, the reason I called you and merry an ass is because you, as well as starlightangel have asked and asked him to say. Who cares? What will it prove, anything? And, maybe he doesn't feel comfortable answering, for one reason or another. Is it your call to see that he does?

The only thing this thread does, is say that since you do things which are good for others you exemplify the better person than, say, someone who doesn't post everything they do in life for the benefit of others. And I think I'm smart enough to know how these threads have gone in the past....it's damned if you do and damned if you don't: if ronnie answered you here, it's possible that it would come back to bite him by someone down the road. If he does not answer you, then all the posters with a bug up their butt about him will unanimously agree and post that he is some kind of troll...only here for himself.

You know what you all can do with that kind of attitude. Go ... ... ...yeah, that's right. I've been called a troll by shakey over and again in the past...that shit does not fly. it is extremely weak response to someone with a voice who simply ...for what they believe or think...has Gotton under your skin. Screw that, because we all are alike in that regard.

YOuse do the same things over and over again. Wabi,....you had to know what he did for a living. we all know how it went after that. for allll these years. he's gone now. and you can run the likes of anyone else Off this board with you guys' damned tactics....but just know that THAT is what makes for piss poor participation here.

What sort of "works" are you inspired to do by your faith or ethical philosophy?

Ronda, you and I are clearly from different planets or something. If you were asking whether someone has to have RELIGIOUS faith to be inspired to help others, then the obvious answer is OF COURSE NOT. Why does that question even have to be answered?

IMO the passage from Matthew that I posted is a clear mandate from Jesus to his followers that they MUST reach out to help the needy. How else can you interpret it?

The purpose of this thread was for people to talk about how their beliefs (religious or not) encourage and inspire them to do things for others. I kick-started it by telling about what I personally oo. I was hoping we could talk about some positive things and get off the circular arguments that keep going on here.

Instead, everyone stonewalls the issue except Merry and Ronnie calls me insane. Wonderful Christian behavior, folks!

I don't know why I even bother wasting my time talking to everyone around here. Gandhi was absolutely right.

How many times must I remind you Ghoti that the earth itself is much older than 6000 years according to the bible.

There you go Ronnie,