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#195151 - 11/06/10 02:21 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: ghoti]
shakey56
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Well Paul there may be some truth in your bible, but this part of it has been disproved in so many ways only complete fools still buy it literally.

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#195152 - 11/06/10 03:12 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: shakey56]
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What a world!!!!

Genesis:1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Genesis:1:2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Genesis:1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Genesis:1:4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis:1:5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


1Corinthians:14:33: For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


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#195155 - 11/06/10 06:34 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: ronniechoate34]
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All this horse manure over the way you interpret the word "day". Unbelieveable that this is the source of all the anti-science ignorance being perpetuated in our nation!

No wonder we're falling behind the rest of the world in science education. Welcome to the new dark ages.
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#195156 - 11/06/10 06:49 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: ghoti]
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I think the dark ages start when mankind moves away from God.
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#195157 - 11/06/10 06:49 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: ghoti]
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I think the dark ages start when mankind moves away from God.
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#195160 - 11/06/10 06:56 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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We're falling behind in our schools because of religion?
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#195161 - 11/06/10 07:20 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: ævory]
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A big part of the dark ages was choosing to follow the Bible while rejecting science. Galileo was nearly put to death for saying the earth goes around the sun, since the theologeans of the time found some obscure Bible passage that implied the sun goes around the earth.

These days in many places people would like to make it illegal to teach about evolution, all because of disagreement over the meaning of one word in the Bible. Without teaching about evolution, most of modern biology and all of Archaeology has to be thrown out the window.

I agree with one thing Ronnie said - what a world.



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#195162 - 11/06/10 07:37 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Dark ages such as the Crusades, or Holocaust, or even slavery in our early history maybe? That definitely had to be a moving away from God.
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#195163 - 11/06/10 09:21 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: flicka]
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Right on Flicka and Ghoti early religious christian leaders were far from Godly examples and it was due to their idiocy that darkness prevailed and gave naysayers such as you have become to have something to grasp onto and beat the bible and religion in general to a pulp.
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#195164 - 11/06/10 09:37 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Paulwa, the problem is that all those Christians back then who killed, persecuted, and enslaved people in the name of the Bible were just as sure they were right as you are. They held back advancements in science and improvement in life conditions for everyone by hundreds of years.

When science has appeared to go against religion in the past, the religious leaders were always eventually proven to be wrong and science right. Don't you think there's a chance that might be the case again today with all the opposition to evolution?
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#195165 - 11/06/10 10:24 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
...and gave naysayers such as you have become to have something to grasp onto and beat the bible and religion in general to a pulp.

In all honesty Paul, my pointing out the 'dark' times in our past is in defense of religion & the Bible. I am not as willing as you to give up on mankind and pray for the rapture. I still believe in mankind and believe we will move on from our current darkness just as those in the past have moved beyond their horrors.

My acceptance & acknowledgement that such a thing as evolution (and ancient fossils) does/do exist is not a denouncement of the Bible or religion. It is reality and cannot be explained away. I can find this compatible with what is written in the Bible. It is not my problem that you cannot see that harmony.

I see you as the naysayer if one of us must accept that label.
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#195190 - 11/08/10 11:16 AM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: ævory]
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Originally Posted By: ævory
We're falling behind in our schools because of religion?

Interesting graph won't you say aevory.
http://www.lasvegasgleaner.com/las_vegas...eform-ever.html
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#195192 - 11/08/10 11:35 AM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: Deo]
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I would say there's definitely a correlation between the spread of anti-evolution propaganda and decreasing scores in science. When you tell young people to reject the findings of science in favor of religion, you plant the seeds of a total rejection of science.

That's dangerous to the long-term survival of our country, since the US has long been a world-wide leader in scientific advancement. Natural selection is at the core of nearly all advanced studies in biology, medicine, agriculture, and archaelogy, and we're breeding a new generation of students who may avoid those fields due to narrow religious convictions.
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#195198 - 11/08/10 01:55 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Originally Posted By: ronniechoate34
What a world!!!!

Genesis:1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Genesis:1:2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Genesis:1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Genesis:1:4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis:1:5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


1Corinthians:14:33: For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


so, do YOU think humans and dino's coexisted together?
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#195199 - 11/08/10 02:26 PM Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person [Re: starlight.2]
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Yes I do believe that dinosaurs existed alongside one another.
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