#195093 - 11/05/10 06:34 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ronniechoate34
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This is simple stuff and I shouldn't have to point it out to you. If I believe Christ died for my salvation, am I still going to hell for thinking there was an unspecified amount of time after God created the heavens & earth, but before he separated light from dark and created man?
I don't know about your going to hell, I don't see that far off and I don't hold your salvation in my hands. I do knkow that you're wrong to belive in evolution and unless you repent of that you will have to answer to God for it some day.
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#195095 - 11/05/10 06:44 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ronniechoate34
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MerryA you are an ignoramus No I'm not.  No where, to my knowledge, does it say I have to believe every word in the Bible to be saved. No where, to my knowledge, does it say that grace is granted only if I believe every word in the Bible. Jesus is not the Bible. Only a fool denies the works of God as shown through his gifts of science.
I don't remember reading anything in the Bible about God's gifts of science. I read about spiritual gifts and I did see that it mentioned one particular gift as plural while the rest were singularly pronounced. That gift was healing, it was written as gifts of healing. But I don't recall one mention of any gifts of science.
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#195096 - 11/05/10 07:04 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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corlorde
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I don't remember reading anything in the Bible about God's gifts of science.
Not to change topics, but in your "vast" knowledge of the bible, do you remember Leviticus 20:13 where it says: "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them."
Have you started killing yet? And if you haven't, aren't you going against the will of your version of God?
Edited by corlorde (11/05/10 07:06 AM)
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#195098 - 11/05/10 10:44 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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flicka
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Many will conme to Jesus saying but lord we have even cast out demons in your name, but He will say depart from me, I never knew you. I will never pretend to speak for Jesus Christ, nor pretend to know who He has saved with His grace. I feel confident my Redeemer lives. Are you saying paulwa is speaking for Him? I've read the same in the Bible. So have you. I don't understand this.
I meant I will never pretend to cast out demons (or somesuch) in His name.
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#195099 - 11/05/10 10:47 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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flicka
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I don't know about your going to hell, I don't see that far off and I don't hold your salvation in my hands. I do knkow that you're wrong to belive in evolution and unless you repent of that you will have to answer to God for it some day.
Maybe you will have to explain why you ignored ancient fossils & such.
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#195106 - 11/05/10 12:06 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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A lot depends on point of view Flicka but ancient fossils are not that old in my view because I believe from what I have heard that Carbon 14 was not the constant science believes it was thus skewing and making much of those measurements null and void. The water vapor canopy spoken of in the bible was disapated during the worldwide flood changing it. The protection of that canopy from dangerous energy rays from space also is believed to have caused the extra life length of the old testament peoples.
Correy I don't think God put it on individuals to judge and kill homosexuals. Back in those early days leaders were the judge and jury to exterminate those deviants who were non productive and unfruitful. They are an obomination to God but all sinners are an obamination to God. Rules for ancient Israel were very different and all gentiles are not involved in the rules given in the first covenant to Israel. Christians are under Jesus covenant of grace also known as the second covenant of the bible.
In my view MerryA you are ignorant of what God is telling us in His Word. Jesus is the Word and the bible is the Word, thus one point you are ignorant on amongst many.
Paul
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#195109 - 11/05/10 12:25 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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MerryA
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In my view MerryA you are ignorant of what God is telling us in His Word. Jesus is the Word and the bible is the Word, thus one point you are ignorant on amongst many.
Paul
I am not aware of any Scripture that says the Bible and Jesus are the same. The Bible and Jesus are not the same. Give me specific scripture that says they are the same and not just your opinion.
Just because I disagree with you (and you know in your heart I'm right) doesn't make me ignorant. 
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#195110 - 11/05/10 12:27 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ghoti
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Paulwa, scientists are very aware of any variations in carbon 14 and take them into account when using it to determine the age of fossils. There are also many other methods of determining age, and they have been tested and are accepted as valid by 99% of the scientific community.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/benton.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dating.html
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#195122 - 11/05/10 05:11 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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Don't think they are half aware, Ghoti of the magnitude of change in carbion 14 and as far as other dating pasrameters..pinpointing dates by their level of appearance in the earth and other artifacts found near them is just as tenuous and far from accurate and the reasonm for the 99 percent consensus is just that none of them have a real clue so they set artificial points of agreement they canm all live with. They are all wrong if they don't follow the bibles words. IMO!
MerryA Jesus says He is the Word in the bible and the Word was with God and the Word is God and the bible is Gods Word where do you draw the line that Jesus was not the word?????
Yep ignorant as a green gourd she is! :-)
Paul
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#195128 - 11/05/10 05:44 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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MerryA
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Where does it say the the Bible is the same as Jesus? You are assuming that the Bible is the "Word." WHERE does it say that Jesus is the Bible? Don't add to Scriptures.
Jesus is not the Bible.
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#195129 - 11/05/10 05:46 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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MerryA go your way if you don't see it..nothing I can say will get through to you. Have a happy life.
Paul
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#195136 - 11/05/10 09:42 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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MerryA
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MerryA go your way if you don't see it..nothing I can say will get through to you. Have a happy life.
Paul
So in other words, there is no Scripture that says Jesus is the Bible.
BTW - Ditto
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#195146 - 11/06/10 12:11 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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starlight.2
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Don't think they are half aware, Ghoti of the magnitude of change in carbion 14 and as far as other dating pasrameters..pinpointing dates by their level of appearance in the earth and other artifacts found near them is just as tenuous and far from accurate and the reasonm for the 99 percent consensus is just that none of them have a real clue so they set artificial points of agreement they canm all live with. They are all wrong if they don't follow the bibles words. IMO!Paul
so, you think humans and dinosaurs coexisted together...?
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#195149 - 11/06/10 01:25 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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Yes and yes. MerryA and Starlight. The bible says Jesus is the word, MerryA and the bible is the word of God and yes it says so in the scriptures..simple as adding 2+2.
I believe God created all life in 6 days so the dinosaurs would fall in that category This is what I will believe until God tells me otherwise. Before those six days it says the earth was dark and void and covered with water..kind of an environment that no kind of life could live in. Starlight you have to believe the bible to believe all life came in that 6 day period or you can believe the misunderstandings of mens science instead and you know where that leads to in eternity.
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#195150 - 11/06/10 02:08 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ghoti
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Sorry, Paulwa, but your narrow anti-science view of things makes no sense to anyone unless they stick to the literal meaning of the word "day" in Genesis. Since the earth wasn't created until day 3 and the sun on day 4, thinking that the word "day" means 24 hours is just silly.
It's unbelieveable how much dissention, disinformation, and outright hatred has been caused by that one word.
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