#194943 - 11/01/10 09:24 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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That is just your myopic opinion and view merryA.
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#194944 - 11/02/10 06:01 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ghoti
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Ussher was an Anglican, not Catholic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology
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#194963 - 11/02/10 01:10 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Deo
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Paulwa, I just don't get it. The theory of evolution is an explanation of a natural process, just like the theory of gravity. Why attribute an explanation of a natural process to the devil? I have asked before-do you attribute acceptance of this theory with the loss of morality.
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#194965 - 11/02/10 01:23 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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I believe accepting evilution counters the truth of God's word making God a liar. Scientific study of man's history and population and generations places mankind at being on this earth about 6,000 years. I believe this and that does not leave any time for the millons of years of so called evilution.
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#194969 - 11/02/10 02:22 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Scientific study of man's history and population and generations places mankind at being on this earth about 6,000 years.
What scientific study has determined this timeline?
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#194971 - 11/02/10 03:12 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ghoti
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I believe accepting evilution counters the truth of God's word making God a liar. Scientific study of man's history and population and generations places mankind at being on this earth about 6,000 years. I believe this and that does not leave any time for the millons of years of so called evilution.
Paul
If Archbishop Ussher was mistaken and the word "day" in Genesis I is not meant to be taken literally, then there is no serious conflict between the Bible and natural selection. There is a VAST amount of scientific evidence proving the earth is about 4.5 billion years old, and the young-earth creationists just ignore it and cling to a bunch of calculations done by a theologan hundreds of years ago instead.
The harm being done to science education over this single issue is outrageous. No wonder we're falling behind other countries.
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#194972 - 11/02/10 03:52 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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We don't know the age of the earth but we know mankind began 6,000 years ago. Evilutionists disregard the bibles words.
If the bible is right (christians know it is) we will know it soon enough and the earth will glow from the red embarrassed faces of evilutionists facing the creator first hand.
Paul
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#194973 - 11/02/10 03:54 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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A group of chrstians who are scientists, Flicka and also firm believers iin the word of God.
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#194976 - 11/02/10 04:16 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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A group of chrstians who are scientists, Flicka and also firm believers iin the word of God.
I firmly believe that with God one day is a thousand years, and a thousand years are one day...meaning we have no clue as to timelines.
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#194986 - 11/02/10 06:49 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ronniechoate34
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Yes, no clue, except that the evening and the morning were the first day. How mysterious is that?
Genesis:1:5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
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#194988 - 11/02/10 07:07 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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flicka
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Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
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It is possible that there was billions of years before God separated light from darkness. Prior to that time, there would not be days & nights.
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#194990 - 11/02/10 07:30 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ronniechoate34
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That's a pretty far stretch.
Genesis:1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Genesis:1:2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Genesis:1:3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Genesis:1:4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis:1:5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
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#194993 - 11/02/10 08:02 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ghoti
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Ronnie, a day is defined as the time it takes the earth to make one rotation on its axis. That takes 24 hours right now, but it's actually changing gradually by a few millionths of a second every day as the gravity pull of the moon and the planets tugs on the earth. Even now, the definition of "day" isn't a fixed thing.
God didn't create the earth until the third day, so for days one and two the was no rotating earth to define the term. In other words, "days" didn't exist until day 3 of creation.
Isn't it obvious that the word "day" as used in Genesis just means some undetermined length of time?
Edited by ghoti (11/02/10 08:03 PM)
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#194994 - 11/02/10 08:24 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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flicka
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That's a pretty far stretch.
All things are possible with God. I believe this notion fits very well with evolution. I cannot deny the evidence of evolution on a micro basis, so I'm sure it happens macro also.
Of course, Nature is pretty awesome too. Look at the power behind water and how it has carved canyons & such. It's all amazingly orchestrated.
Edited by flicka (11/02/10 08:26 PM)
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#194996 - 11/02/10 08:50 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ghoti
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Evolution, the formation and wearing away of mountains, genetics, DNA, the movement of the planets and organization of stars into galaxies, the structure of cells, the way chemicals interact to form new substances, are all signs to us of the true glory of creation. The way these things all interact with each other to form a smoothly functioning universe is the greatest miracle of them all IMO.
If you took your nose out of that old book and just looked around you, the evidence of God is everywhere.
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