#195329 - 11/11/10 03:41 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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MerryA
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It is not in the bible MerryA, Muhhamed changed the whole character of god in his writings.Thus allah is not the Bibles God. God in the bible says He never changes. allah did..end of story.
It is in the Bible.
Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said to God, "Oh that Ishmael might live before You!" 19 But God said, "No, but Sarah your wife will bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; and I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation. 21 But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you at this season next year."
Arabs are not covered by the Old Covenant but they pray to the same God - the same God that blessed Ishmael.
Mohamed's visions and teachings created a new religion to praise God. Just as Jesus created a new religion to praise God. You may disagree with Islam's worship practices and may believe Muslims are going straight to hell but Allah (God) is the same God you and I pray to.
God blessed Ishmael, made him fruitful, multiplied him exceedingly, made him the father of twelve princes, and made him a great nation. God created the Arab nations. God did not leave the Arab people and they did not leave Him.
To claim otherwise is to call God a liar.
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#195330 - 11/11/10 03:42 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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That has caught many a eye, Ghoti but in the old testament God was preparing a line of people of His choice to lead the world to Himself and to discover mercy and love after generations of battle to just survive and remain a race of peoples. He went with them and aided them in their battles for survival and lands to propagate and live in. In time He sent Jesus His only begotten son to come to earth and sacrifice Himself for the salvation of mankind. He displayed Mercy and Love to man who had advanced in spiritual intelligence to appreciate those attributes of God. Godmade His first covenant with Israel and Jesus made the second covenant with the rest of mankind and all who would accept His sacrifice.
So I think God revealed Himself in many ways to His people but at the finality He wanted man to know peace, love and mercy of forgiveness and to see that battle and death was not the best way to survive and live. allah does none of the latter things but only deals with punishment and no salvation for mankind.
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#195331 - 11/11/10 03:47 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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MerryA
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allah does none of the latter things but only deals with punishment and no salvation for mankind.
Paul 
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#195333 - 11/11/10 03:55 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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Beck..maybe..Van Impe, Robertson, Jeffrey,Lindsey and tons of others including the Bible believe this to be true.
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#195337 - 11/11/10 05:14 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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The Quran states that Allah made the heavens & the earth and created all things. Sound familar?
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#195339 - 11/11/10 05:24 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ghoti
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Paulwa, there are something like 38,000 diffeent Christian denominations world-wide, and what separates most of them are interpretations of different parts of the Bible. With that much ddisagreement even within the Christian community, how can you be so cetain your interpretations are correct?
The obscure language that much of the Bible is written in leaves it wide open to multiple interpretations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations
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#195340 - 11/11/10 05:38 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ævory
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It is not in the bible MerryA, Muhhamed changed the whole character of god in his writings.Thus allah is not the Bibles God. God in the bible says He never changes. allah did..end of story.
Yes, I agree with you, Paulwa. It's my understanding, too.
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#195343 - 11/11/10 06:07 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Paulwa_dup1
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Thanks Ronda,Ghoti we can dsagree all over the place so long as we accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ and turn our lives over to Him and try to follow His examples. There is lots of room for disagreement but not on the main points of salvation.
Paul
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#195407 - 11/13/10 01:42 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ghoti
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It's well understood that you hold that belief, Paulwa. Others just happen to respectfully disagree.
Can't you just accept that?
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#195411 - 11/13/10 02:22 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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MerryA
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It's well understood that you hold that belief, Paulwa. Others just happen to respectfully disagree.
I do not "respectfully" disagree - he has told me too many times I am going to hell because I don't agree with him. What respect I had for him is long gone. He has made it clear he feels the same about me with all his name calling.
As far as I'm concerned, he and ronnie are hate mongers who trash Islam and Catholicism every chance they get.
My request to all the readers in www land - please do not take these two as representatives of accepted mainstream Christian doctrine. They are both blinded by ego and on the fanatical fringe.
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#195413 - 11/13/10 02:46 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ronniechoate34
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It's well understood that you hold that belief, Paulwa. Others just happen to respectfully disagree.
I do not "respectfully" disagree - he has told me too many times I am going to hell because I don't agree with him. What respect I had for him is long gone. He has made it clear he feels the same about me with all his name calling. As far as I'm concerned, he and ronnie are hate mongers who trash Islam and Catholicism every chance they get. My request to all the readers in www land - please do not take these two as representatives of accepted mainstream Christian doctrine. They are both blinded by ego and on the fanatical fringe.
[img]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pictureg...ek.html?image=2[/img]
I couldn't post the image MerryA but there's a link. Please take a look for yourself at some of these pictures and see for yourself if the KKK and the Catholic church aren't a part of the same "outfit".
The klan came about as for a reason ya' know. There was a reason for the hate speech and the devil was behind it all the while in order to promote his agenda. Things like civil wars and presidential assasinations don't just happen. They are orchestrated events and movements that are brought about by satanic forces. Possibly even the Jesuits.
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#195415 - 11/13/10 03:21 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Possibly even the Jesuits.
OMG! Not them!
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#195420 - 11/13/10 05:21 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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MerryA
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take a look for yourself at some of these pictures and see for yourself if the KKK and the Catholic church aren't a part of the same "outfit".
The La Paz wear the hood to symbolically tell people "don't look at me, I am nothing, look towards God." Holy Week is a big deal in Spain.
They are polar opposites to the majority of the world. But to you, who loves to hate, you will stretch any percieved connection.
Hey - Auburn is beating Georgia! 
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#195424 - 11/13/10 05:52 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ronniechoate34
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take a look for yourself at some of these pictures and see for yourself if the KKK and the Catholic church aren't a part of the same "outfit".
You are not only full of hate but you don't know squat. The Klan's reason for wearing a hood is to hide their coward's face so they won't be caught murdering people. The La Paz wear the hood to symbolically tell people "don't look at me, I am nothing, look towards God." Holy Week is a big deal in Spain. They are polar opposites to the majority of the world. But to you, who loves to hate, you will stretch any percieved connection. Hey - Auburn is beating Georgia!
I know the devil's signature when i see it.
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#195429 - 11/13/10 09:46 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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MerryA
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The devil did go down to Georgia - at least according to the song. 
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