#194757 - 10/28/10 06:46 AM
Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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ævory
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...in his personal life:
Marriage and children
Darwin in 1842 with his eldest son, William Erasmus Darwin.On 29 January 1839, Darwin married his cousin Emma Wedgwood at Maer in an Anglican ceremony arranged to also suit the Unitarians. After first living in Gower Street, London, the couple moved on 17 September 1842 to Down House in Downe. The Darwins had ten children, three of whom died early. Many of his surviving children and their grandchildren would later achieve notability themselves (see Darwin — Wedgwood family)
Several of their children suffered illness or weaknesses, and Charles Darwin's fear that this might be due to the closeness of his and Emma's lineage was expressed in his writings on the ill effects of inbreeding and advantages of crossing.
http://www.makara.us/04mdr/01writing/03tg/bios/Darwin.htm
-fascinating link there-
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#194758 - 10/28/10 06:56 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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ævory
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What a little rebel he was! I wonder, if he hadn't had a mouthful of silver spoons at the age of 3, just what would of empowered him ..you know, what could his driving force in life have been if he'd been of poor common folk like you and me, and what would he have grown up to Be. Some of us just don't have all the advantages of upbreeding and imbreeding (oops, ..inbreeding....which reminds me to post a link about spelling).
http://www.misspelledkeywords.com/download2838/Poor_Spellers_Dictionary.pdf
Edited by ævory (10/28/10 06:57 AM)
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#194759 - 10/28/10 07:11 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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ronniechoate34
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Nope, he couldn't have been too smart. But he did have one thing going for him and that was that not even he was convinced that his foolishness had any substance to it.
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#194763 - 10/28/10 10:03 AM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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Darwin was far from alone in developing a theory of natural selection. Many others were reaching similar conclusions at the time, and he just happened to be the first to publish.
If Darwin had never been born it would have just been someone else. Natural selection can be observed routinely as simply the way that nature operates (the strong survive while the weak perish). Even the most ardent creationists accept that.
Once the evidence mounted that the world was billions of years old rather than just thousands, it's clear that small changes brought about by natural selection can easily add up to the development of entirely new species. All it takes is for millions of years to pass.
Since life has existed on earth for something like 3.5 billion years and massive changes in climate and environment have occurred over that time, it's a good thing plants and animals have been so adaptable.
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#194770 - 10/28/10 12:26 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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ronniechoate34
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Nope, not even darwin was convinced.
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#194776 - 10/28/10 12:58 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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At the time Darwin married his cousin, that was fairly common practice. Arranged marriages were the norm for most of human history - still are in a large part of the world.
Study the history of royality in Europe - talk about inbreeding!
Darwin was a man of his times.
I remember in jr high and high school being told to learn about evolution to pass the tests but don't believe it. LOL
I learned and I believe - in evolution AND I remain a Christian. Theology and science are not enemies. 
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#194778 - 10/28/10 01:00 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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ghoti
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The only doubts Darwin ever had about his theory were centered around the controversy he knew would develop over it. England at that time was very tightly controlled by an extremely conservative branch of the Church of England, and he knew he would be accused of blasphemy and heresy.
He originally intended to have his work published after his death, but others were writing papers hinting that they were about to come to the same conclusions. He finally gave in to pressures from friends and agreed to allow it to go to print so he could get credit for precedence.
Even if he had totally withheld from ever publishing his work, the theory of natural selection would have been presented by someone else within a very short time.
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#194780 - 10/28/10 01:14 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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Yes because man is not the author of evolution, satan is the author, just as the bible is not authored by man but by God as He wrote through the fingers of mankind.
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#194781 - 10/28/10 01:29 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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I happen to believe that natural selection is God's plan for seeing that the life he created would manage to survive in an often hostile and constantly changing world. It's actually very brilliant in its elegant simplicity.
If not for Archbishop Ussher and his silly 6000 year timeline pretty much everyone would accept natural selection, since we can clearly see it in action today.
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#194788 - 10/28/10 01:57 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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ævory
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At the time Darwin married his cousin, that was fairly common practice. Arranged marriages were the norm for most of human history - still are in a large part of the world. Study the history of royality in Europe - talk about inbreeding! Darwin was a man of his times. I remember in jr high and high school being told to learn about evolution to pass the tests but don't believe it. LOL I learned and I believe - in evolution AND I remain a Christian. Theology and science are not enemies. 
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#194789 - 10/28/10 02:02 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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ævory
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If not for Archbishop Ussher and his silly 6000 year timeline pretty much everyone would accept natural selection, since we can clearly see it in action today.
fact?
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#194792 - 10/28/10 02:21 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Pe
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ghoti
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Insects evolving new forms that are resistant to pesticides, bacteria changing into entirely new immune species in response to our antibiotics, plants being altered into new forms that never existed in nature by genetic engineering, plants and animals being drastically altered over time by selective breeding, etc., etc.
All proof that natural (or human directed) selection can cause drastic changes in plants and animals.
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#194939 - 11/01/10 01:36 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Several of their children suffered illness or weaknesses, and Charles Darwin's fear that this might be due to the closeness of his and Emma's lineage was expressed in his writings on the ill effects of inbreeding and advantages of crossing.
not to mention that having 10 children in the 19th century with nonexistent specialized perinatal care would have almost certainly have carried a greater risk of health problems.
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#194941 - 11/01/10 05:36 PM
Re: Well He Couldn't Have Been Too Smart in His Person
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Arcbishop so and so is not the author of the 6000 year timeline, except maybe in the Catholic church, Ghoti, the bible is the author of that and is clear to those who study God's word. Anti biblers will grasp at any straw to uphold their view.
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#194942 - 11/01/10 07:38 PM
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MerryA
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And only those blind to reason would limit God Paulwa. You don't know how long creation took - you don't know how long a day is to God. I am not an "anti bibler" - evolution is a fact. The Catholic Church is responsible for collecting and preserving the Scriptures. Christianity would not exist if it weren't for the Catholic Church.
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