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#193988 - 10/13/10 09:57 AM A valid question
Greg
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borrowed from an NM poster

"Aprox 26,000 children will die of starvation today. Why should god answer YOUR prayers?"

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#193990 - 10/13/10 10:03 AM Re: A valid question [Re: Greg]
ævory
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I pray for others. It increases my chances of getting a second look from God.
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#194001 - 10/13/10 12:05 PM Re: A valid question [Re: ævory]
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There will be thousands dying from all sorts of things because of the randomness of cause and effect in our existance. Those who revere and serve God has His hand of protection over them till their time to depart comes. Others beat a hasty retreat to hades while those living for Jesus as their saviour go in a flash to paradise to await the rapture and resurrection day.
Paul


Edited by Paulwa_dup1 (10/13/10 12:05 PM)

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#194005 - 10/13/10 12:17 PM Re: A valid question [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
Greg
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Those who revere and serve God has His hand of protection over them till their time to depart comes. Others beat a hasty retreat to hades while those living for Jesus as their saviour go in a flash to paradise to await the rapture and resurrection day.
Paul


Say you this of the children? How dare you presume to know the "truth".

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#194007 - 10/13/10 12:21 PM Re: A valid question [Re: Greg]
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The children who die before the age of accountability ( I believe it varies from person to person)will go to paradise immediately.The others will go to hades. The bible is Gods word and pretty much explains these things. I don't presume anything, just state what the bible has taught me. It is available to all who care to read and study it Greg!
Paul

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#194009 - 10/13/10 01:46 PM Re: A valid question [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"

- Epicurus
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#194022 - 10/13/10 04:15 PM Re: A valid question [Re: inkblister]
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Because He is creator of all and runs this existence to His own rules. Fight against Him as you will, you don't stand a chance without Him. You are the ink in His pen!
Paul

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#194029 - 10/13/10 04:28 PM Re: A valid question [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
Greg
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Fight against Him as you will, you don't stand a chance without Him.


there you go again

your following a moral life by strictly adhering to religous christain doctrine is your way

but you have no right, just as orthodox muslims have no right to say it is the only way

and I am betting my salvation "God" agrees with me

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#194031 - 10/13/10 04:34 PM Re: A valid question [Re: Greg]
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If your "salvation god" agrees with you I am betting you will wind up with an upset stomach in the end, Greg.:-)
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#194034 - 10/13/10 05:20 PM Re: A valid question [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
inkblister
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Because He is creator of all and runs this existence to His own rules. Fight against Him as you will, you don't stand a chance without Him. You are the ink in His pen!
Paul


So, just because... weak... so no "real" answer huh?...
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#194036 - 10/13/10 06:08 PM Re: A valid question [Re: inkblister]
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Don't like the truth huh, inkyblister? ;-)
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#194048 - 10/13/10 09:22 PM Re: A valid question [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Paulwa, you don't know the real truth any more than anyone else, and I'm getting really tired of your constant pretense that you do. If you're wrong about faith being the sole criteria for judgement in the afterlife then YOU'RE the one due for a very nasty surprise.
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#194051 - 10/14/10 01:38 AM Re: A valid question [Re: ghoti]
inkblister
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I love the truth Paulwa... But what you percieve as truth is nothing more than your opinion to me and everyone else, just as is my truth and are other's...
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#194055 - 10/14/10 12:54 PM Re: A valid question [Re: inkblister]
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Lighten up guys! Of course you are technically right...but I don't think your search is really giving you confidence that you are really on the right track..you are still searching swhat you perceive as facts to build your foundation of faith in your future. Christianity (the individual type..not church) on the other hand has all the words laying out the future of christians in detail. It has been backed by billions of believers all weith various testimonies of their interactions with the creator that really firms up faith and beliefs for each individual fregardless of what others do. I have witnessed God's mercy and gravce and power many times that really cannot be explained in any other way. You guys are still prospecting while I have struck the motherlode of gold..at least in my opinion. But I am at total peace with my future and feel like I am being lead positively by God's spirit which Jesus promised to all believers upon repentance. I am not being facetious or know it all about this but I am convinced beyond certainty. I have nothing that is not available to anyone who repents of tgheir sins and by faith begins searching God's word for the truth. God's intentions are to save all who will come to Him openly and without pretention. I am sorry if my faith in what God has revealed to me appears bigoted and self centered and self serving. It is just I have the proof and the gold on me to my satisfaction, but to you who do not see the word as I do think I am loaded with nothing but fools gold. The bible if I read it rightly says that is normal in this world of sin and doubt but that I shoulkdn't let that affect me or my testimony of Jesus who died for me and all in the world who will accept Him. Those who don't must chance the truths they have extracted and must place their eternal future on their beliefs or if atheist their total death and no future. Sorry but their is too much proof to me that God is true and His word is true and things are right on schedule for the rising of His kingdom on this earth and the complet anhialation of satan and sin in this world and the freeing of mankind to live with a Holy God for eternity. Coming very soon to a world we all know and love. I'll try not to appear as sure of things in the future but it is difficult because I see the words of the one who created all things and realize He is interested in me and what I do and blesses me daily for my faith in Him. And in a way it is so easy to make that commitment for the greatest prize in eternity.
Peace
Paul

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#194057 - 10/14/10 01:26 PM Re: A valid question [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
ghoti
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Just because a whole bunch of people believe something it's no proof that it's true. For many thousands of years nearly everyone believed the earth was flat and this belief was even part of the official dogma of the Christian church, and yet the earth remained spherical in spite of it. It took science, not belief, to reveal the truth.

Your beliefs may be sufficient proof to you, but they are of no consequence to others whatsoever.
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