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#193867 - 10/10/10 03:09 PM Thoughts on the rapture and other things..
Paulwa_dup1
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Loc: Washington 		Hadn't thought about it before but the transition of earth to heaven in the rapture occurs in the blink of an eye. I had always thought I would see a unfolding rising up through the heavens, but probably not so. It would be life on earth and a micro second later life in heaven with no graduality to it. It is strange but for the last few months I have been experiencing being awake watching tv or such (albeit maybe I might grow drowsy) then instantaneously be dreaming in an entirely new dream world to awaken a few minutes later kind of confused by the real world and my totally different dream scape. Weird.. Been wondering if maybe narcolepsy may be a problem in my future. Sure hope not. I have restricted my driving the last couple of months fearing something like this might happen at the wheel. Yikes!!
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#193872 - 10/10/10 03:37 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: SLO County, CA - 66.122.77.142 		Maybe it's a side effect of a med you are taking?
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#193874 - 10/10/10 03:52 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: flicka]
Paulwa_dup1
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Loc: Washington 		The only thing different I am talking is periodic Prozac, a vitamin B complex and a Vitamin C 1000mg mix of stuff. Only take every two or three days, these things. I think it has been happening before I started all this extra stuff though. Been taking Darvoset for years though...maybe accumulated buildup??
Paul I'm just getting old. Turned 72 last september. I'm feeling pretty old with this atrthritis as it really drags down my strength and stamina. MDR..I take two at a time..boosts my energy level if I am going to be active. Pat Boone takes it..called
focus Factor I think. This numbness is getting worse too and tires me. I may have to go to a gerontoligist specialist. If I can find one.
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#193878 - 10/10/10 04:59 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
flicka
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Loc: SLO County, CA - 66.122.77.142 		It's probably the Prozac. Do you have to take it?
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#193879 - 10/10/10 05:17 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: flicka]
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Loc: Washington 		Only if I don't want to blow my top once in a while. I am kind of maybe obsessive compulsive a bit (not bad) but I tend to get angry over minor things and irritations. The prozac eases me when I start getting wound up and I dont blow. With my health I tend to have a very narrow threshold. Being christian helps immensely too. Millie and I are firstborn hardheads I guess but we get along ok for the most part. Cant think of anyone other than her who I would have wanted to spend my life with. I first met her in kindergarten and when I looked at her I saw something special I think. Never saw her again until we were 18 on a blind date of all things.I am just kind of a crank I think sometimes but the prozac evens me out.
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#193880 - 10/10/10 05:23 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
flicka
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Loc: SLO County, CA - 66.122.77.142 		Well, it does have warnings about using motor vehicles & such, so I'd be worried about driving too, if I were you.
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#193881 - 10/10/10 05:23 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: flicka]
flicka
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Loc: SLO County, CA - 66.122.77.142 		Cool about you & Millie. I'm sure you are best of friends also.
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#193884 - 10/10/10 05:43 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: flicka]
Paulwa_dup1
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Loc: Washington 		Even when we are at odds which happens frequently but we belong to each other. I just got a new drivers licence and hope I can use it sometime.
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#193896 - 10/11/10 08:57 AM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Posts: 127 		Hi Paul, I think I have OCD which gets worse as the stress level increases. I started on Fluoxetine (a Prozac generic)but it never helped so I stopped. Most of my stress was being brought on by my inability to do simple tasks around the house. I live for tending the yard but can't do so anymore.
I find now, enough sleep and food seems to take care of my stress levels. Kay has been my lifeline and I don't think I could have survived without her.
Hope you feel better.
Deo
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#193900 - 10/11/10 11:28 AM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: Deo]
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Originally Posted By: Deo
Hi Paul, I think I have OCD which gets worse as the stress level increases. I started on Fluoxetine (a Prozac generic)but it never helped so I stopped. Most of my stress was being brought on by my inability to do simple tasks around the house. I live for tending the yard but can't do so anymore.
I find now, enough sleep and food seems to take care of my stress levels. Kay has been my lifeline and I don't think I could have survived without her.
Hope you feel better.
Deo


Yes, it's been pretty common knowledge that family members can be both the main source of support AND the main source of stress (often both).

As for taking ANY psychotropic meds, they should never be prescribed w/out ongoing psychotherapy (altho it happens all the time). All the mental health research supports the idea that drugs + counseling is more effective than drugs alone - and sometimes the drugs alone can even be harmful if no one's tracking the effects regularly - it's like being given a set of tools w/out getting the instructions how to use them.
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#193905 - 10/11/10 01:08 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: starlight.2]
Paulwa_dup1
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Loc: Washington 		I spent about a year with avery good and expensve psychiatrist back in my twenties for panic attacks. It really devastated me in college. I gradually overcame it though and I think my psychiatrist really helped me with it all. It was in the 60's and I think I paid around $25 an hour. That was a lot of money back then and I think he really gave me a cut rate cost. I only saw him about twice a week. I have had an anger problem pretty much my whole life but have always managed it. Probably what has caused my arthritis to flourish.
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#193943 - 10/12/10 01:10 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: starlight.2]
Deo
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Originally Posted By: starlight.2


Yes, it's been pretty common knowledge that family members can be both the main source of support AND the main source of stress (often both).

As for taking ANY psychotropic meds, they should never be prescribed w/out ongoing psychotherapy (altho it happens all the time). All the mental health research supports the idea that drugs + counseling is more effective than drugs alone - and sometimes the drugs alone can even be harmful if no one's tracking the effects regularly - it's like being given a set of tools w/out getting the instructions how to use them.


I absolutely agree, but my docs wanted me to try the meds for three months before considering psychotheraphy. I only tried it for two months. I had indicated to them that a few beers during periods of intense stress actually works to relieve it. They indicated that driven persons like myself tend to self medicate with alcohol and the risk of this turning to alcoholism is very real. The tabs was to prevent that possibility although I think the chances of me becoming an alcoholic is rare. I have beers sitting in the fridge untouched for months. I think psychotheraphy would have really helped me to come in terms for the reasons for my stress.
ps. my disease has damaged my adrenals which produces the stress hormone cortisol. I manage this by taking steriods-hydrocortisone.
Deo
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#193968 - 10/12/10 10:10 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: Deo]
Paul I
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Posts: 7913 		I took Welbutrin to quit smoking. It affects only the psychological anxiety and not the nicotine loss. I was a dedicated smoker. I finished the pack I had and just didn't have anymore
and hardly thought about it. In the 2 years since I have had a few
with no panic being generated after just one. This stuff goes after stress like an invisible anti-stress warrior.

I can't believe you folks buy the white thrown stuff and all. Sounds like part of the NT was written by Cecil B. DeMilles.
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#193971 - 10/12/10 11:07 PM Re: Thoughts on the rapture and other things.. [Re: Paul I]
Paulwa_dup1
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Loc: Washington 		Was described in Revelation, the testimony of Jesus Christ. Cecil B. couldn't put on a production like the creator of all existance can. It will be out of this world!!!:-)
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