#193213 - 09/28/10 09:32 AM
Atheists score higher on religious knowledge
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starlight.2
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Somehow, I was not surprised....
Washington, D.C. -- Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups on a new survey of religious knowledge. They outperformed evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants and Catholics on questions about the core teachings, history and leading figures of major world religions.
These are among the key findings of the "U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey," a nationwide poll conducted by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life from May 19 through June 6, 2010, among 3,412 adults.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/28/pew-forum-religious-knowledge-survey_n_741349.html
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#193215 - 09/28/10 10:03 AM
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MerryA
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I'm not surprised either. Christians who are "cradle fill-in-the-blank" tend to not know as much about their denomination as those who transfer in. Especially people who attend the same church all their lives. They tend to believe what their congregation believes and are not exposed to the big picture of their denomination. Growing up if a new preacher brought in "new fangled ideas" ie, tried to expand the knowledge base, he tenure was short. It has been my experience that not many people want to move beyond their comfort zone.
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#193217 - 09/28/10 10:29 AM
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Greg
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It has been my experience that not many people want to move beyond their comfort zone.
No wonder you're so narrow minded.
I sure am glad the people I associate with live their life from the opposite perspective.
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#193230 - 09/28/10 02:46 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Best not to grab at every new doctrine blowing in with the wind but to remain firmly anchored in God's word and to build your spiritual life on the rock of Christ Jesus only. Any other way is folly.
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#193241 - 09/28/10 03:42 PM
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flicka
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Best not to grab at every new doctrine blowing in with the wind
One reason I will never accept your rapture theory.
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#193244 - 09/28/10 03:48 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Not a theory Flicka, it is anchored solidly in scripture for those who will see. Better tie back your pigtails, could happen anytime! :-)
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#193248 - 09/28/10 04:33 PM
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it isn't at all, Paulwa, but you'll never admit that. I've posted many links in the past proving that but I'm sure you never read them. You just keep repeating your opinions and beliefs over and over but refuse to give any evidence supporting them.
It's quite obvious that you aren't here to learn anything from any of us and we all stopped giving you any credence a long time ago.
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#193249 - 09/28/10 04:38 PM
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flicka
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Not a theory Flicka, it is anchored solidly in scripture for those who will see.
As solid as the theory of gravity?
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#193257 - 09/28/10 06:29 PM
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Ghoti I gave the backings for my belief with scriptures and other leaders opinions a few years ago but I won't do it again. It was pretty thorough. God made gravity and He can control gravity for those He choses, Flicka. Gravity is not a factor for the rapture. The rapture is only of significance to those who will participate. It doesn't exist for any other belief. I doubt you will even miss us because the cover story will be accepted by all. It will not affect any who are left on this earth. You will have your own reality to live with.I am tired of talking about it any more. Whether you believe it or not means nothing to me, I have my own eternity to look forward too.
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#193259 - 09/28/10 08:17 PM
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God made gravity and He can control gravity for those He choses, Flicka. Gravity is not a factor for the rapture. The rapture is only of significance to those who will participate. It doesn't exist for any other belief. I doubt you will even miss us because the cover story will be accepted by all.
Oh stop. If you & Millie drive off a cliff in your RV, but your bodies are not recovered, everyone who knows you will suspect the rapture. I, for one, will then check on the rest of the rapture Christians I know to check the facts.
I am tired of talking about it any more.
Are you? Paul, I've never known you that you haven't talked about it. I can't see you tiring of it.
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#193260 - 09/28/10 10:33 PM
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Well I am, got more things to do and think about, besides Jesus said in a time you think not the Son of Man cometh. Course I don't think he said that to His church but more to the people coming out of the tribulation period maybe.
Just saw a scripture today from the book of James that made me stop and think. Hadn't thought about it before. I think it was James chapter 4 that says 'If you are a friend to the world, you will be an enemy to God.' Of course I think He is saying that if you join the worlds view and lifestyle then you will be bound by a sinful life and at odds wth God's holiness and cleaness. Don't you think that would make you God's enemy? Interesting.
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#193263 - 09/28/10 11:36 PM
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flicka
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Of course I think He is saying that if you join the worlds view and lifestyle then you will be bound by a sinful life and at odds wth God's holiness and cleaness. Don't you think that would make you God's enemy? Interesting.
I think being a part of the internet is definitely a joining of world views and lifestyles. Do you consider participation on it being bound by a sinful life?
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#193264 - 09/29/10 07:58 AM
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Greg
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Of course I think He is saying that if you join the worlds view and lifestyle then you will be bound by a sinful life and at odds wth God's holiness and cleaness. Don't you think that would make you God's enemy? Interesting. I think being a part of the internet is definitely a joining of world views and lifestyles. Do you consider participation on it being bound by a sinful life?
bogus, "joining" is the operative word here, I actually respect Paul for be willing to "join" in the discussion, without "joining" 
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#193265 - 09/29/10 08:10 AM
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Well I am, got more things to do and think about, besides Jesus said in a time you think not the Son of Man cometh. Course I don't think he said that to His church but more to the people coming out of the tribulation period maybe.
Just saw a scripture today from the book of James that made me stop and think. Hadn't thought about it before. I think it was James chapter 4 that says 'If you are a friend to the world, you will be an enemy to God.' Of course I think He is saying that if you join the worlds view and lifestyle then you will be bound by a sinful life and at odds wth God's holiness and cleaness. Don't you think that would make you God's enemy? Interesting.
Paul
I believe Scripture speaks differently to each individual person.
If that's your interpretation, then likely that's what God seeks to deliver to you. Roll with it, Paul.
But don't expect everybody to see it exactly as you have. God will have a different message to them through those exact words.
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#193270 - 09/29/10 12:01 PM
Re: Atheists score higher on religious knowledge
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flicka
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bogus, "joining" is the operative word here, I actually respect Paul for be willing to "join" in the discussion, without "joining"
Do you think God cared who joined what at the time of the tower of Babel?
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#193272 - 09/29/10 12:46 PM
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Greg
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bogus, "joining" is the operative word here, I actually respect Paul for be willing to "join" in the discussion, without "joining" Do you think God cared who joined what at the time of the tower of Babel?
don't know, don't care
while you and Paul were off reading the bible I was reading Popular Mechanics, Scientific America and National Geographic
I like how they positioned me better in life.
between you and Paul though I would have to say he got more out of theological studies than you as he seems far less conflicted in his interpretation
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#193278 - 09/29/10 01:35 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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I think you are right Skylark. I read those same magazines Greg plus the bible and many other religious books such as book of Mormon and the apochryfal works excluded from the bible along with some science fiction, textbooks etc. think I have a pretty rounded reading life, or did have. I am pretty limited on what I read these days or watch on tv. Also very limted on perusiing the internet. No Flicka the internet for me is kind of like toe dipping to test the temp of the water. I have backed away from the world many decades ago but probably did take a quick dip for a time without leaving God behind. Probably the most miserable time of my life. No not probable, that was for sure! still havepoints of confliction in my theology, not with the bible but with me and my bias in interpretation. God is still working on me and most likely will be when I draw my last breath. Only the blood sacrifced by Jesus makes me acceptable to God.
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#193280 - 09/29/10 01:47 PM
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flicka
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still havepoints of confliction in my theology, not with the bible but with me and my bias in interpretation.
Just as with political views, we all see some things differently.
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#193283 - 09/29/10 01:55 PM
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Yep! But in politics it is more for a shorter period we live with our mistakes, with religon it is an eternal choice to live with.
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#193285 - 09/29/10 01:57 PM
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Yep! But in politics it is more for a shorter period we live with our mistakes, with religon it is an eternal choice to live with.
That is one reason why I do not foresee Jews becoming followers of Jesus.
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#193287 - 09/29/10 02:34 PM
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Stand by and watch. It will happen soon in the very next few years.
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#193289 - 09/29/10 03:02 PM
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flicka
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Have you discussed this with any of your Jewish acquaintances?
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#193322 - 09/30/10 12:35 PM
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Many are discovering it for themselves, Flicka. I don't have any religious Jewish friends that I know about. I kind of knew a couple who came to our church for a while but they have moved on. Jews are in our population most everywhere. God always keeps a remnant of His people. Amazing but it has kind of come into focus in my mind from bible study that Israel and its sojourners who live with them will be the new Adam and Eve in God's garden and will remain physically human in all respects and procreate to populate the universe perhaps. They will have access to the tree's of life along the river of life and live forever and be as populous as the sands of the sea. We still have much to learn about God's eternal plan concerning His covenant people.
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#193330 - 09/30/10 01:08 PM
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Amazing but it has kind of come into focus in my mind from bible study that Israel and its sojourners who live with them will be the new Adam and Eve in God's garden and will remain physically human in all respects and procreate to populate the universe perhaps.
And the story continues to get even more amazing.
It's probably for the best that you have no Jewish friends to discuss this with...
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#193331 - 09/30/10 01:10 PM
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Not mine to discuss this with them, but God's only.
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#193334 - 09/30/10 01:13 PM
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flicka
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Correct. G-d might not whip your ass. 
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#193369 - 09/30/10 04:25 PM
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and it deserves to be beaten thoroughly..I'm a bad boy!:-)
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#193371 - 09/30/10 04:51 PM
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flicka
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and a heretic.
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#193374 - 09/30/10 04:57 PM
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Only to those who disagree with my theology. But I think and feel Jesus approves and that is what counts with me.
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#193375 - 09/30/10 05:00 PM
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flicka
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Only to those who disagree with my theology.
Well, to Jews & Muslims anyway.
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#193376 - 09/30/10 05:00 PM
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And His Holy Spirit will teach me where I am wrong.
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#193377 - 09/30/10 05:02 PM
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flicka
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...a part of the heresy.
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#193384 - 09/30/10 08:19 PM
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Not for me flicka. You don't believe in the Holy spirit and the Trinty? Jesus sad I will send to you the Comforter and he will teach and bring all things to your remembrance. The Comforter is god's holy Spirit.
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#193385 - 09/30/10 08:38 PM
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You don't believe in the Holy spirit and the Trinty?
I'm saying the Trinity is what makes the Jews & Muslims consider you a heretic.
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#193386 - 09/30/10 09:39 PM
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Yep.
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#193483 - 10/02/10 12:18 AM
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Paul, run some of you conflicted interpretations past us. It could be interesting.
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#193530 - 10/03/10 09:58 AM
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Atheists score higher on religious knowledge.
That's not too hard to understand. After all, religion is the devil's playground.
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#193531 - 10/03/10 10:12 AM
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Greg
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religion is the devil's playground.
Do you also believe, "religion is the opiate of the masses", cause if so you are my kind of people
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#193541 - 10/03/10 12:20 PM
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starlight.2
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After all, religion is the devil's playground.
and why do you insist on hogging all the good rides?
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