#192907 - 09/21/10 06:01 PM
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soda
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i used to starve myself. now i eat a reasonable-sized meal at 4-5pm (usually unless i go out) and then i have a snack like cheese and crackers, mixed nuts, pistacios or a banana w/a big cup of dry red wine while ass-up in bed.
for exercise i use 10lbs ankle-weights on my wrists: i lift my arms high over my head like in top-only jumping-jacks. i also run-in-place, like i am mentally-challenged. i go in circles w/my arms strait out and at shoulder-length. i bring my palms to from being out at shoulder-length to my chest, back and forth rapidly while i read or even watch a movie . i look quite ridiculous! i have gone 2 hours a day, but usually 45m-1hr. lying down i'm skinny; sitting up i have quad-belly and tiny breasts.
i can't stop hyphenating.
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#192930 - 09/21/10 08:37 PM
Re: moobs
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MrsDrublic
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well ty for the ideas! i really honestly love his belly, i cant help it, and im not even sure why i like it so much LOL but hes alomst an A cup at this point..and im sick of him complaining bout his moobs and jiggling them at me.. lol
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#192946 - 09/22/10 11:07 AM
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i've always heard that you can't spot reduce. like richard simmons said about crip exercise, if it moves, move it!
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#193012 - 09/22/10 07:19 PM
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4wheeler
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Something I never knew is where his level of injury is?
How much strength does he have with his grip and maybe over all with his arms?
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#193040 - 09/23/10 03:47 PM
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Paul I
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Where is his level of reduced sensation? That's the clue.
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#193062 - 09/24/10 12:50 AM
Re: moobs
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MrsDrublic
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he says hes not sure what level it is but its a c summin and a t summin and hes incomplete.. he loses feeling bout mid belly and the back of his arms are numb ish, hes got good grip strength and arms strength and control tho.
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#193069 - 09/24/10 08:17 AM
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found when I stopped smoking herb my man boobs went away
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#193082 - 09/24/10 12:16 PM
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flicka
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Foghorn is probably claiming it was estrogen in pot that caused his 'breasts'. Total reefer madness...
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#193105 - 09/24/10 06:12 PM
Re: moobs
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4wheeler
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REEFER RULES !
Even though I haven't smoked it in years.
I was thinking.You said that push-ups are hard for him to do but if he does have good arm strength and good lower control he can still do them.
Have him lay on his stomach on the floor or bed with his feet on a pillow or two,make sure he is straight,and he can push him self up to where he is on his hands and knees.The hips do get a little heavy and can go to one side but that happens less as he gains more control.
10 reps. at a time at first should be OK.I do it on a sof mat on the floor.
May feel funny at first but it works.Of course if he is able to do them.
Edited by 4wheeler (09/24/10 06:14 PM)
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#193106 - 09/24/10 06:36 PM
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MrsDrublic
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ive watched him on cam, get down on the floor and do them.. its hard on him tho, id rather he did it on the bed, but since his leggs are so badly atrophied, gettin him str8 with or without pillows is basically impossible.. his thighs will eventually lay flat on the bed after a lot of spasming and complaints, and my help to hold him up and slowly stretch him to where he can lay, but even then, at his best, hes a bit twisted and cant be on his belly properly, and his knees stay bent, hes permanently sitting, since he was injured at 2 yrs old. i thought that if i sat on him and he was propped on a pillow, that we could hold hands and he could use me like a bench press sorta, use my weight to push up while on his back, not sure how well that would work to build muscle and burn fat, we havnt tried it yet. but any and all answers and Qs are welcome 
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#193138 - 09/25/10 07:36 PM
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4wheeler
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Forgot that you had mentioned that he has been sitting since he was 2.And threw thows years he probably hasn't stretched in a long time if at all when he was younger.
He can also try using 3-5 pound weights and hold his arms out to the side and swing them forward to where the weights meet up.
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#193176 - 09/26/10 11:56 PM
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Foghorn is probably claiming it was estrogen in pot that caused his 'breasts'. Total reefer madness...
Google it
Gynecomastia is a benign male breast condition in which a male has one or two prominent breasts
Most Common Causes of Gynecomastia:
•Puberty (hormonal growth and changes during adolescence)
•Estrogen exposure (female hormone present in the body and the environment)
•Androgen exposure (body-building hormones)
•Marijuana use
•Medication side effects .
http://breastcancer.about.com/od/types/p/gynecomastia.htm
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#193200 - 09/27/10 02:16 PM
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flicka
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Okay, maybe... here's a list of medications that can cause it. Maybe MrD is taking one, or more?
Certain medications can promote breast growth. They interact with the natural levels of testosterone and estrogen, and upset the balance in some manner. Gynecomastia is a common consequence of estrogen treatment in patients with prostate cancer. Drugs that may cause gynecomastia include:
Hormones (androgens, anabolic steroids, estrogen agonists)
Antiandrogens or androgen-synthesis inhibitors
Antibiotics (isoniazid, ketoconazole, metronidazole)
Anti-ulcer medications such as cimetidine
Cancer chemotherapeutics, especially alkylating agents
Cardiovascular drugs, such as captopril and digitoxin
Psychoactive agents, such as diazepam and tricyclic antidepressants
Recreational drugs, such as alcohol and marijuana
Penicillamine
Alcohol and drugs can cause gynecomastia by mimicking estrogen and stimulating androgen production. Steroids and other excess androgens are sometimes converted by the body into estrogens and consequently cause male breast problems.
To reverse breast growth, it may be possible to change medications.
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#193296 - 09/29/10 04:07 PM
Re: moobs
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MrsDrublic
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thas what im thinking, he doesnt have boobs, hes got moobs, fat man chest, like the 105lb 8 y/o u see on maury..im on the fone arguin w him bout eating healthier as we speak, and hes bein an ass about it ugh stab stab stab. ty for the info tho, its very interesting
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#193302 - 09/29/10 08:36 PM
Re: moobs
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How/What does he eat?
Fast food every day?
Candy(bars)every day?
Ice Cream every day?
How old is he? <--I ask this question because it could be harder for him to lose the weight.He doesn't look much older than me.I'm 30.
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#193484 - 10/02/10 12:18 AM
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4wheeler
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Well eating "crap" isn't too bad unless he is eating it every day.Maybe if you can convince him to cut back on it to once a week or if your lucky every other week that could work.
Chips are ok but not like a half or whole bag in one sitting.
Does he eat alot of fast food?
That can also be a big problem.
Does he have someone up there to cook for him?
Have you also talked him into trying the exercises yet?
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#193523 - 10/03/10 05:59 AM
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MrsDrublic
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he eats crappy stuff everyday and no one cooks for him. he can cook but refuses. lazy boy. he works out a bit, but lately hes been slackin hard. not much fast food, just junk food. bleh
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#193562 - 10/03/10 08:55 PM
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4wheeler
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I can understand if it's not only just being lazy to cook but also some frustration to deal with the stove.And that is if he even has one.Some people don't,believe it or not.
How were things done for him over here before he moved?
I assume the two of you didn't live together?
What was his purpose for moving?
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#193624 - 10/05/10 06:23 AM
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LOL we cant change anybody...........we either accept them the way they are or we dont.....but thinking they would be great if only they had a car or a boob job for instance is setting a relationship up for failure.
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#193635 - 10/05/10 12:29 PM
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4wheeler
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How often do you two get to see each other?
When you two are together do you cook for him and does he eat what you do cook for him or is he real picky about what he eats other than just eating junk food?
How long has lived alone?
Does he have family that lives up there?
You are right Foghorn you can't change someone completely but you can change someone's ways just enough to where that person lives a little better and a little healthier.
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#193691 - 10/06/10 04:49 AM
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MrsDrublic
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LOL we cant change anybody...........we either accept them the way they are or we dont.....but thinking they would be great if only they had a car or a boob job for instance is setting a relationship up for failure.
im just sick of the complaining and the lack of action to fix it. i love who he is but i dont love how he treats himself
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#193692 - 10/06/10 04:53 AM
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MrsDrublic
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How often do you two get to see each other?
When you two are together do you cook for him and does he eat what you do cook for him or is he real picky about what he eats other than just eating junk food?
How long has lived alone?
Does he have family that lives up there?
You are right Foghorn you can't change someone completely but you can change someone's ways just enough to where that person lives a little better and a little healthier.
we try to see eachother every other month if not sooner. its hard money wise tho, and leaving my lil one at home for a week at a time strains the options too. and yes he does eat what i cook for him, but refuses to take care of himself while im gone. which makes me angry. like HI WE ARE TOGETHER I CARE ABOUT U PLZ TAKE CARE OF URSELF ... yanno? bleh. hes lived alone for bout 8 yrs.. he has a roomie, but he doesnt cook for him most of the time, his roomie doesnt push stuff like that on him, and the mr wont request it. the only family he has truly nearby to him is an aunt he isnt too close to. its just very irritating to have to live so far and not be able to help the way i want to. he accepts my help happily, but wont help himself succeed.
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#193739 - 10/06/10 07:30 PM
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4wheeler
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That can't be good when his Aunt is the only family near by and they are not all that close to each other.
In a way I can relate to what you are going through with him.I have had my wound going on 8 years and I tend to not do what I have to and stay off of it.Even when I get mad at myself and when my friends and family ask me "Why are you not healed yet"?.
I'm working on it.It will be heald by next year I hope.I am healthy other wise.
See if you can convince his roomie to cook for him more.That might work.
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#203404 - 05/05/13 02:56 PM
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A medicine ball should also work. He could lie on a bed or floor and lift the ball like he is bench pressing. If he has trunk control he can also lift it over his head while seated to work his abs and shoulders. If he doesn't have trunk control he could probably still do that, but you would need to strap him to the chair.
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