#193216 - 09/28/10 10:24 AM
Re: Gandhi quote
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Greg
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I am working on being more tolerant it ain't working Sure it is - I haven't smacked you in some time - and you have deserved quite a bit of smaking! LOL
The passive aggresive attitude you show towards me I find amusing.
I was actually referring though to the intolerance and disrespect you shows toward's Paul's religous beliefs. Why do you bible thumping, holier than thou types always believe your interpretation is THE correct one?
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#193218 - 09/28/10 10:51 AM
Re: Gandhi quote
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MerryA
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Passive aggressive? I didn't know there was anything passive about my attitude toward you! LOL
I have as much tolerance for and disrespect toward Paulwa's religious beliefs as he does mine. Why - we have God on our side. BAAAAAHHAAAAA
BTW - while you're judging who is holy-least, does anyone else here support Paulwa's conservative evangelical rapture predictions and anti-Islam hate speech or do you think I am alone in my disagreement? Rather selective criticism, no? 
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#193235 - 09/28/10 03:22 PM
Re: Gandhi quote
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Paulwa_dup1
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Ghoti, considering your experiences I can understand maybe why you feel the way you do. Can't say I wouldn't feel the same were I in your shoes. But we all stand or fall on what we stake our lives and trust on and in. That is just the way it is.
MerryA it may shock you when I say my religious views are pretty much right smack down the middle of the road. Of azll the doctrines you say you nare familiar with I would say Southern Baptist is probably the warmest most spiritual of them all. I once was baptised into the Southern Baptist church..many years back. I was raised in the Assembly of god church and other tongue speaking Holy Ghost Baptism style churches. In my youth I spoke in tongues and received that baptism in the Holy Spirit but battled within myself over many years as to its reality. I have since felt that those attributes maybe are best left at the day of Pentecost where they actually occured with visual proof. I don't put down those who believe so strongly in these things but for now they are not for me. I battled with once saved always saved too. The churches I attended all believed you by sin could lose your eternal life. I burned the aisles every sunday going to the altar and repenting and being resaved. I eventually came to see that what God gives, He does not take away and that once I had turned my life over to Him I was eternally saved and if I sinned He would forgive me and I would suffer and reap what I had sown and there was no avoiding retribution but that I was saved.
All the doctrines you listed are pretty much on the left side of my road. On the right side are the far outs such as Seventh Day Adventists, modern spritual evangelicals into faith healing and such and Replacement Theoligists who feel God gave up on Israel and the modern Christian church is God's new Israel..a total lie! God does not give up on anyone or any thing and Israel, His people is still very much alive and is tied to the true christian doctrine because we are grafted into the original branch of Israel. So Pre Trib Rapturists are middle of the road in theology. As far as Islam goes they are a false religion tied to Israel but are dead branches because Mohammed led them away from the God of the bible to the false god of Islam, the moon god and if they dont turn to Jesus as Lord and saviour they will all be lost according to Gods word.
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#193240 - 09/28/10 03:39 PM
Re: Gandhi quote
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flicka
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"And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to "Allah" Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." [Quran 41:37]
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#193250 - 09/28/10 04:47 PM
Re: Gandhi quote
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ghoti
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Paulwa, we are all a product of all our life experiences and how we reacted to them. That's why I don't believe in condemning anyone else's religious position since if I had lived their life I might feel the same.
It's also why I reject and am repulsed by those who claim to know the truth and try to covert me and others to their views. We each must find our own way, and IMO that's exactly the way it's meant to be.
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#193256 - 09/28/10 06:18 PM
Re: Gandhi quote
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Paulwa_dup1
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In my opinion flicka, all allah did was to be created by the lies of Mohammed. He is a myth. God of Israel is the only true God who has proven Himself to mankind over and over.
Paul
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#193258 - 09/28/10 07:17 PM
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flicka
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God of Israel is the only true God
Maybe you missed this part...and I'm almost afraid to tell you about it, but...here's what the G-d of Israel said about you (and the New Testament).
Deuteronomy 4 (King James Version)
1Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you.
2Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Edited by flicka (09/28/10 09:20 PM)
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#193261 - 09/28/10 10:42 PM
Re: Gandhi quote
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Paulwa_dup1
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God was talking to Israel. They didn't write the new testament , the christians did and added it to the Torah wrtten by God and Israel and all the other holy books written by Israel. So Israel is clean in that respect and Christians just added Jesus our
Messiah and the age of grace to the old foundation of the bible as the christian base of doctrine. There are things that apply to Israel and things that apply to Christians seperately and then there are things that apply to both in many ways. So no body did anything wrong.
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#193262 - 09/28/10 11:25 PM
Re: Gandhi quote
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flicka
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So no body did anything wrong.
Most Jews believe that the Christians did wrong and consider Christ & the New Testament heresy.
If they are going to come around to accepting Jesus as you claim, they will be going against the direct command of G-d.
Deuteronomy chapter 6 King James Version
1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
3 Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD
Edited by flicka (09/28/10 11:26 PM)
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#193324 - 09/30/10 12:49 PM
Re: Gandhi quote
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Paulwa_dup1
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Considering what the sinful popes and catholic church and Nazi false christianity using the symbol of the cross did to the house of Israel, I don't wonder that they would view christianity that way.But christianity will be much more acceptable to them when they say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. This last number of decades they have seen this come to pass when christians would come to love Israel and support them. When Jesus returns at His second coming they will look on Him whom they have pierced and accept Him as their Messiah because he will come as conquerer of Israels enemies and will rule the nations with a rod of iron. This will happen at the end of the seven year great tribulation and 144,000 Israelites will have been sealed wiith God's name and protected by Him. They will have gone around the world preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to the world and preparing them of His coming.
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#193529 - 10/03/10 09:56 AM
Re: Gandhi quote
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"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
I know many Christians who make an effort to live up to the model of Jesus, but I've also met many who fit this quote perfectly. It's the main reason why, even though I have deep respect for Jesus and try to use him as my role model, I refuse to call myself a Christian.
Ghandi was insane.
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#193540 - 10/03/10 12:18 PM
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[quote=ronniechoate34
Ghandi was insane. [/quote]
prove it.
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#193544 - 10/03/10 12:39 PM
Re: Gandhi quote
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ronniechoate34
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Ghandi tossed away his eternity because he wouldn't accept Jesus Christ as his saviour. Now that's insane, but then the fact that he took a stand and claimed to know Jesus Christ makes him seem even crazier to me.
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#193781 - 10/08/10 01:31 AM
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ghoti
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Ronnie, I think you missed the entire point of Gandhi's quote. Only God decides on the final judgement of each of us, not you, and IMO you have replaced humility before God with cocky arrogance. That's exactly what he was talking about.
We are each respomsible for our own souls, and I'd thank you to stop condemning others and concentrate on improving your own as best you can instead.
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#193784 - 10/08/10 08:05 AM
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Lola
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"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
I know many Christians who make an effort to live up to the model of Jesus, but I've also met many who fit this quote perfectly. It's the main reason why, even though I have deep respect for Jesus and try to use him as my role model, I refuse to call myself a Christian. Ghandi was insane.
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