I don't believe Paulwa would deliberately hurt anyone and he
can take a punch.

Thank you Skylark, I agree. MerryA if repeating the words of Jesus christ offends anyone or hurts them I guess there is nothing I can do about that.

Beats me how anyone can home in on one message of Jesus Christ and then attempt to cut Him off in every other way. Jesus is God and He created all.

I am working on being more tolerant

it ain't working

Sure it is - I haven't smacked you in some time - and you have deserved quite a bit of smaking! LOL

God of Israel is the only true God

Deuteronomy 4 (King James Version)

1Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you.

2Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

So no body did anything wrong.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

I know many Christians who make an effort to live up to the model of Jesus, but I've also met many who fit this quote perfectly. It's the main reason why, even though I have deep respect for Jesus and try to use him as my role model, I refuse to call myself a Christian.

Ghandi was insane.

Ghandi was insane.

What an unbelievable stupid thing to say.

IMAGINE

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one.

John Lennon

Christians do not dismiss any scripture, they read it and understand who it is written to and who should follow it. All scripture is to be used for knowledge. Christians follow Gods path to righteousness not mans meanderings of search and understanding that must be tweaked in time to fit the new view. God does not change, ever. Man changes his mind continually. Gods sieve of knowledge misses no one and we all fall on one side or the other by choice or circumstance. Doesn't matter where you are or what you sincerely think or believe you will have to enter the sieve one day to stick on God's side or fall through to satans side. Have a good trip.
Paul

so, Ronnie, is EVERYONE insane if they don't believe exactly like you? If that's what you think, then you are not only saying that about the followers of every other religion in the world, but the vast majority of Christians, too.

One major characteristic of insane people is that they often think they're the only normal ones and everyone else is crazy. Sound familiar?

Gods sieve of knowledge misses no one and we all fall on one side or the other by choice or circumstance.

..but today..far too late I know he is a 1200 per cent believer!

This implies that there is only one kind of gnosis (knowing) - the religious kind. That's one person's opinion,'and if it brings you true peace and serenity then I'm glad for you.

But knowing the creator can take another form entirely - studying his creation; the glories of the entire universe. This means that your mindset is that the best way to know the creator is to become as knowledgeable about nature and science as possible.

Unfortunately this approach to gnosis is difficult and requires constant study, while the religious gnosis is very simple and nearly effortless. IMO that's the reason it's more popular and forms the basis of most religions, while scientific gnosis is far less common. Given a choice, most folks take the easy way out.

I like this approach to religion and try to follow it myself:

http://www.churchofreality.org/wisdom/welcome_home/

Believe it, Ghandi was posessed by demons who used him up and then tossed him out like yesterday's garbage.

If you think that the devil does not use "humane acts" and seemingly Christ like ideals to promote his agenda then you must also be insane.

Why is it that persons of strong faith tend to be the first to judge?
Isn't that going against the central tenet of the sermon of the mount.
Good grief man do you know anything about Ghandi?
A visit to a psychiatrist might be in order.
Deo

The bible, Flicka, says if you reject the deity and salvation of Jesus you will go to hades.

Implies?

I posted the poem because it reached a part of my core beliefs while reading it and i think it most beautiful and serene and I didn't consider that anyone would take it as a means of debating/arguing gnostism or gnostic this or that, but clearly you have effectively confused me with your post and I believe you've dismissed it's implication meant by me. I'm not even sure that I have an understanding of the word gnostic....I thought all readers of my post would enjoy what was there so by implying the original poem or the internet poster before me who shared the poem was implying anything is beyond me. You've lost its meaning on me with your scientific gnosis mentioning ( nature/naturalistic gnosis?). But since you are deliniating between forms of knowledge then explain your understanding of the word gnostic and/or gnostism for me, please.

I've gotta tell y'all that there are times when I would like to just pour some common sense into your heads and make you all understand. But that's not going to happen because only God can reveal the truth and not me.

The bible, Flicka, says if you reject the deity and salvation of Jesus you will go to hades.

Hi Ronnie, thanks for the offer. I would listen to someone who displays humility. You seem to be lacking that. Quoting scripture does nothing for me.
Tell us something about yourself.
I'm 47, male, athiest with a rare genetic di :)sease with has caused my disability.
Deo

I'm not trying to convert you since I respect your right to believe as you wish, and I'd just like the same in return.

... and I think those coming out of the seven year great tribulation who did not take the mark of the beast and called on Jesus to save them.

Remember when Jesus died on the cross? He also went down to hades and took the keys to the gates of hell and ministered to all those in Abraham's bosom who would accept Him as their saviour and judged them then took all souls that day to heaven where he moved paradise,

I've gotta tell ya Ronnie that there are times when I would like to just pour some common sense into your head and make you understand. But that's not going to happen because with you, common sense ain't common.

If what you believe makes you happy, wonderful. However, your insistence that you are the only one who "knows" is offensive. IMO you have a limited and uneducated understanding of Christianity. You offer nothing but hatred and intolerance. If your goal is to bring people to Christianity, you are failing miserably.

It must be terribly frustrating that people refuse to bow down before the infinite wisdom of the great Ronnie. Makes you really, really pissed, I bet.

People like you who are convinced that they and only they know the mind and will of the creator are dangerous megalomaniacs and have caused untold amounts of death and suffering in this world. I pity your wife and children for what they must endure from you.

Hi Ronnie, thanks for the offer. I would listen to someone who displays humility. You seem to be lacking that. Quoting scripture does nothing for me.
Tell us something about yourself.
I'm 47, male, athiest with a rare genetic disease with has caused my disability.
Deo

C'mon man,,,that's just silly.




Ghoti...I'm sorry that you are so angry at the God who created you. There is peace in Jesus Christ and He would be more than happy to relieve you of your terrible burdens. If you'd open up and let Jesus in you'd see your situation with joy and peace no matter what it is.


Repent Ghoti or you're never gonna be happy, not in this world or the next.

The Bema seat judgement of the christians is only for rewards given for service and occurs after the rapture, in heaven.

God is not mocked...

Deo, the only hope that you have is in the scriptures. I suggest that you seriosly look into them with all prayer and dilligence.

Hey guys!... I literally found Jesus last weekend!...

He was bussing tables at a local mexican resturant... Did you know he was actually hispanic?... Based on his T-shirt under his vest (which had his nametag so I knew it was the savior), he appearantly listens to "Slayer"... The son of god digs death metal, who knew?...

Seemed like a nice kid, so I tipped him $3... I figure we're even now...

God is not mocked:

Agreat whit throne appears and Jesus sitting on that throne begins judging individuals from the books of their lives and He misses no one of the unsaved. They are released to goaway from God by their choices made duriing their life.

I've gotta tell y'all that there are times when I would like to just pour some common sense into your heads and make you all understand.

Hope for what Ronnie? I am not preoccupied with death and dying and what happens afterwards. I am concerned about how I live with my fellowman now! Will you not break bread with me? You still have not told me anything about yourself.
Deo

then why does he make himself such an easy target?

Probably because he doesn't want to reveal that he doesn't really belong here... He has no disability, he's just here to biblebait and spew scriptures on the forum board in some sort of one-man-holier-than-thou induced jesus bukkake party... Like Paulwa, but without the charm (lol)...

Just ignore him and don't feed the troll...

... with everyone sitting in the spectater gallery observing...

Romans 2
1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

It is not our place to judge another's salvation. I'd pray on that if I were you.

You have a serious spiritual problem if you think you are God.

What things?

Even you may wind up repenting before you are through with your time.

The unsaved will have their names erased.

In the beginning everyone's name is in the book of life or they would never have existed..

Their names are not in the book of life.

What is your point?

You just have to go with facts you do know but in finality???

..we can't know for certain.

Ghoti,,,your ignorance makes me sick to my stomach and angry at the world.

Ghoti,,,your ignorance makes me sick to my stomach and angry at the world.

Ghoti,,,your ignorance makes me sick to my stomach and angry at the world.

All these trips down and up plus the judgments with varying
consequences separating people by degrees of loserdom reminds me of an eternity spanning quiz show. "And now for the top question
on 'This Will Be Your Eternal Life', does your Book of Life contain
A, B or C, A being...?

Pretty anti bible...

God says there is a heaven and a hell and that we are not to live life like those of the world but to be seperate, holy and different

I'm not sure who you are listening to when you come up with these kind of statements but it can't be the one who created this world and said, "It is good."