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#192182 - 09/03/10 11:07 AM Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence
starlight.2
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despite what paulwa thinks.

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Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence

August 24, 2010
Americans doubt that Islam is likelier than other faiths to encourage violence, but their overall view of the religion has worsened over the past five years, a poll said Tuesday.

In a survey that underlined the complex views people have about Muslims, 51 percent agreed that a Muslim center should not be built near the former site of New York's World Trade Center, compared to 34 percent who said it should be permitted.

Yet at the same time, a majority — 62 percent — said Muslims should have equal rights to build houses of worship. Just 25 percent said communities should be allowed to block the construction of mosques. The poll was conducted by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center.


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#192194 - 09/03/10 01:26 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: starlight.2]
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Islam is a knife at the throat and it is only a question of when it will be used.
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#192195 - 09/03/10 01:34 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Islam is a knife at the throat and it is only a question of when it will be used.


You are nutso. The terrorists are the enemy, not Islam.

You live in fear, not in reality.
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#192204 - 09/03/10 03:18 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: MerryA]
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We all know Paul seldom thinks and often jerks a knee reacting.
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#192207 - 09/03/10 04:44 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: shakey56]
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What are terrorists if not Islam?
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#192210 - 09/03/10 04:56 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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They are an offshoot of Islam, but they are not representative of the majority. I would imagine the majority is embarrassed by terrorist much like the majority of Christians are embarrassed by extremists claiming to be Christian. You know, ppl like you
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#192211 - 09/03/10 05:11 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: shakey56]
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So how do you tell which is which quickly? I'd rather face a christian of any type in a dark alley as a Muslim Islamist.
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#192213 - 09/03/10 05:16 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Stay out of dark alleys. Finding terrorists isn't your job. We all are more comfortable with the known than the unknown.
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#192215 - 09/03/10 05:51 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
I'd rather face a christian of any type in a dark alley as a Muslim Islamist.


If I based such an encounter on my personal experiences, I'd definantly rather face a muslim than any christian, hands down... I've personally suffered more bigotry, hatred, and abuse from christians than any other group I've ever encountered combined, but that's only because I've dealt with more christians (vast majority here) than muslims (just a handful)...

But, I've always believed it's more important and tried to look beyond one's religion and more into their character...
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#192236 - 09/03/10 11:56 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: inkblister]
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How can anyone, in 2010 NOT believe that
"Islam is likelier than other faiths to encourage violence"?
This question does not ask if a larger % of Muslims is more likely to... It has no mathematical dimension.

Character is frequently a partial product of religion.
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#192242 - 09/04/10 10:28 AM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violence [Re: Paul I]
starlight.2
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Originally Posted By: Paul I
How can anyone, in 2010 NOT believe that
Character is frequently a partial product of religion.



and character often has nothing to do with religion. people just use religion to rationalize the actions they would already be inclined to commit anyway, be it feeding the poor or blowing up buildings.
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#192246 - 09/04/10 11:23 AM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violen [Re: starlight.2]
ævory
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Originally Posted By: starlight.2
Originally Posted By: Paul I
How can anyone, in 2010 NOT believe that
Character is frequently a partial product of religion.



and character often has nothing to do with religion. people just use religion to rationalize the actions they would already be inclined to commit anyway, be it feeding the poor or blowing up buildings.
nice try, no cigar...when it comes to blowing up our buildings WHY IN GOD'S NAME GIVE THEM YOUR 'OUT'?!!


Edited by ævory (09/04/10 11:24 AM)

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#192248 - 09/04/10 12:16 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violen [Re: ævory]
inkblister
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Originally Posted By: ævory
nice try, no cigar...when it comes to blowing up our buildings WHY IN GOD'S NAME GIVE THEM YOUR 'OUT'?!!


Like Tim McVeigh?...
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#192260 - 09/04/10 02:50 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violen [Re: inkblister]
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All I'm saying is that if one tallied all the acts of terrorism in the last 12 months I'm guessing there is more done by Muslims than any other group. This is not a value judgment of a religion; just an observation.

When one is reared intensely in a religion I maintain it is difficult to tell where character begins and religion ends. Are you saying that if Islamic extremists were not reared in such a way they would be violent anyway?
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#192261 - 09/04/10 02:53 PM Re: Poll: Public Doubts Islam More Prone To Violen [Re: Paul I]
ævory
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I completely get you, paul I, and agree w/ you on this.
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