#192056 - 09/01/10 10:18 AM
Re: the ground zero church
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Greg
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A Florida pastor is speaking out in defense of his congregation’s controversial plan to burn copies of Koran on the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, MyFoxOrlando.com reported.
"Things like 9-11, Fort Hood, and the honor killings... these are possibly not isolated incidents," Dove World Outreach Center pastor Terry Jones said. "These are things that, if we don't stand up now, they can increase."
The Gainesville, Fla. church made headlines worldwide in July when it announced the plans on its Facebook page.
The event had received thousands of "Like" recommendations by users of the social networking site, but had also been attacked with a number of threatening messages posted on the page and received corresponding anti-Islam rants.
Jones — who has written a book titled "Islam is of The Devil" and sells T-shirts bearing the same message — says his life is being threatened after getting international attention for his plans.
"We have thought about it," the pastor said, "about the danger in holding the controversial event, and we realize that whenever we made this step, that this kind of thing could happen. But we feel it's that important, and the times call for some kind of radical measure in standing up.”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/13/fla-pastor-defends-koran-burning-plan/
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#192057 - 09/01/10 10:37 AM
Re: the ground zero church
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Amid Furor on Islamic Center, Pleas for Orthodox Church Nearby
By PAUL VITELLO
Published: August 23, 2010
The furor over plans to build an Islamic center two blocks from ground zero had already been joined by several politicians. On Monday, two politicians were joined in turn by officials of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, who sought to use the controversy to focus attention on their long-stymied effort to rebuild a church destroyed on 9/11 at the foot of the World Trade Center.
At a news conference near the trade center site, church officials appeared with former Gov. George E. Pataki and a Greek-American Congressional candidate from Long Island — both opponents of the Islamic center — to make their case: Government officials who appear to be clearing the way for the center, which includes a mosque, are blocking the reconstruction of St. Nicholas Church, the only house of worship destroyed in the terrorist attacks.
for those who oppose the proposed islamic center, do you support the (re)building of the greek orthodox christian church?
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#192066 - 09/01/10 12:33 PM
Re: the ground zero church
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Paulwa_dup1
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They have more right to rebuild than a foreign country who uses mosques to mark conquered territory, regardless if they are johnny come lately Americans trying to dig in.
Paul
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#192069 - 09/01/10 12:40 PM
Re: the ground zero church
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Greg
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They have more right to rebuild than a foreign country who uses mosques to mark conquered territory, regardless if they are johnny come lately Americans trying to dig in.
Paul
and what foreign country would that be?
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#192083 - 09/01/10 05:46 PM
Re: the ground zero church
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Paulwa_dup1
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All foreign countries run by Islam. Mr. Greg Canada.
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#192104 - 09/02/10 08:15 AM
Re: the ground zero church
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Greg
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All foreign countries run by Islam. Mr. Greg Canada.
You are a uniter, not a divider.
Do you know or even care that for the world (as in the planet you live on) 22.9% or 1.5 billion of all people are Muslim.
You got a lot of countries to be scared of and hate cause below is a list of countries with populations that exceed 50% Muslim.
Nigeria 78056000 50.4%
Chad 6257000 55.8%
Kazakhstan 8822000 56.4%
Burkina Faso 9292000 59.0%
Lebanon 2504000 59.3%
Malaysia 16581000 60.4%
Brunei 269000 67.2%
Sierra Leone 4059000 71.3%
Sudan 30121000 71.3%
United Arab Emirates 3504000 76.2%
Qatar 1092000 77.5%
Albania 2522000 79.9%
Bahrain 642000 81.2%
Tajikistan 5848000 84.1%
Guinea 8502000 84.4%
Kyrgyzstan 4734000 86.3%
Oman 2494000 87.7%
Indonesia 202867000 88.2%
Bangladesh 145312000 89.6%
Kosovo 1999000 89.6%
Middle East-North Africa 315322000 91.2%
Syria 20196000 92.2%
Mali 12040000 92.5%
Turkmenistan 4757000 93.1%
Egypt 78513000 94.6%
Gambia 1625000 95.0%
Kuwait 2824000 95.0%
Senegal 12028000 96.0%
Pakistan 174082000 96.3%
Uzbekistan 26469000 96.3%
Libya 6203000 96.6%
Djibouti 838000 96.9%
Saudi Arabia 24949000 97.0%
Algeria 34199000 98.0%
Palestinian territories 4173000 98.0%
Turkey 73619000 98.0%
Jordan 6202000 98.2%
Comoros 664000 98.3%
Maldives 304000 98.4%
Somalia 8995000 98.5%
Niger 15075000 98.6%
Iraq 30428000 99.0%
Morocco 31993000 99.0%
Mauritania 3261000 99.1%
Yemen 23363000 99.1%
Azerbaijan 8765000 99.2%
Iran 73777000 99.4%
Western Sahara 510000 99.4%
Tunisia 10216000 99.5%
Afghanistan 28072000 99.7%
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#192126 - 09/02/10 12:33 PM
Re: the ground zero church
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Paulwa_dup1
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We have a big job destroying their goals for the world. After the rapture they will have it for seven years and then be kicked out by God. There will be retribution by our creator for those who are out to destroy Israel.
Paul
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#192127 - 09/02/10 12:34 PM
Re: the ground zero church
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Paulwa_dup1
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We have a big job destroying their goals for the world. After the rapture they will have it for seven years and then be kicked out by God. There will be retribution by our creator for those who are out to destroy Israel.
Paul
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#192179 - 09/03/10 10:19 AM
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I think the Rapture has already happened and you were left behind. Poor us. 
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#192270 - 09/05/10 05:50 AM
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ævory
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They would rather have a gaping hole to call "hallowed ground" than have people rebuild their lives. 
I think Sarah tweeted it best. I mean, many people will tell you when you should be moving on after a husband or wife passes away....or a child....come on. No one need dictate when that healing occurs. But anyway...here's Sarah's tweet:
"Peace-seeking Muslims, pls understand, Ground Zero mosque is UNNECESSARY provocation; it stabs hearts. Pls reject it in interest of healing."
Should there be a mosque near Ground Zero? unequivacably, no.
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#192271 - 09/05/10 05:51 AM
Re: the ground zero church
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ævory
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OH, THAT'S SARAH PALIN I QUOTED.
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#192313 - 09/06/10 01:38 AM
Re: the ground zero church
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If sufficient healing has not occured in 9 years to move forward and no longer live in the past, there are issues involved greater than the wound/loss caused by the event. BTW - healing is not forgetting.
Other than blaming (and hating/fearing) American Muslims for the actions of Saudi Arabian terrorists, give one reason why the Community Center should not be built two blocks from the gaping hole of Ground Zero?
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#192321 - 09/06/10 12:09 PM
Re: the ground zero church
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Your brain is shriveling MerryA, who or what gives you the right to say how long it will take to come to grips with a hole in the ground plastered with American blood and body parts of loved ones. You are a jerk or need to quit acting like a smart know it all who can't find her but with both hands!
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#192350 - 09/06/10 07:59 PM
Re: the ground zero church
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MerryA
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Muslims were in the Twin Towers and were killed by the terrorists as well.
People may grieve a loss for the rest of their lives but most still begin a new life within a year or so of a loss.
Other than blaming (and hating/fearing) American Muslims for the actions of Saudi Arabian terrorists, give one reason why the Community Center should not be built two blocks from the gaping hole of Ground Zero?
Edited by MerryA (09/06/10 07:59 PM)
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#192386 - 09/08/10 11:17 AM
Re: the ground zero church
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starlight.2
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Ground Zero mosque imam offers prayer space for Jews and Christians
The imam planning to build a mosque near the Ground Zero site of the September 11 terrorist attacks in New York has said he will include "separate prayer spaces" for Christians and Jews in his Islamic centre.
Iman Feisal Abdul Rauf also promised to "clearly identify" the financial backers of his Cordoba House centre, which is two blocks from the site of the al-Qaeda attacks, and to build a memorial to the victims.
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it does seem like the imam in charge of the project is doing all he can to placate the objectors.
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