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#191369 - 08/18/10 12:18 PM US population is becoming more secular
starlight.2
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some recent trends -

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atheists and nonbelievers more than doubled in the eleven years between 1990 and 2001, from 14 million to 29 million: from 8% of the country to 14%. There are more than twice as many atheists and nonbelievers as there are evangelical Christians.[6] And since it’s hard to believe that all atheists/nonbelievers would be willing to confess that to pollsters, the number is probably much higher. From 2000 to 2005, church attendance fell in all fifty states.[7]


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Evangelicals constitute not 25 percent of the U.S. population – as they have claimed – but at most 7 percent, and their numbers are falling, not rising. All these numbers come from the churches themselves. (Wicker, p. 67)


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When a sampling of non-Christians were asked to rate eleven groups in terms of respect, they rated evangelicals tenth. Only prostitutes ranked lower.


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#191428 - 08/19/10 11:20 AM Re: US population is becoming more secular [Re: starlight.2]
Paulwa_dup1
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Becoming more secular?? Wait till after the rapture...geometric increase like never seen before.:-)
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and Maranatha!!

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#191431 - 08/19/10 11:40 AM Re: US population is becoming more secular [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
corlorde
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Becoming more secular?? Wait till after the rapture...geometric increase like never seen before.:-)
Peace
and Maranatha!!


Nah, it will just be you and Ronnie in heaven ;-}
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#191432 - 08/19/10 11:40 AM Re: US population is becoming more secular [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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"What is The Rapture?"

The Second Coming of Christ will occur in stages. First, He will remove all Christians from the Earth, to protect them. This is called "The Rapture." The term comes from the Latin verb raptare, and the Greek word harpizo, both meaning "to be caught up" or "to be snatched up." Jesus will "snatch us" out of harm's way.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 [15] According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. [16] For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. [17] After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.


1 Corinthians 15:51-55 [51] Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed -- [52] in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. [53] For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. [54] When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." [55] "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"


Job 19:26-27 [26] And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; [27] I myself will see him with my own eyes -- I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!



Oh boy, how depressing is all this crap

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#191433 - 08/19/10 11:42 AM Re: US population is becoming more secular [Re: Greg]
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and then the fun really begins:

"What takes place after the Rapture?"

After The Rapture, God will begin executing judgments against unbelievers, during a period called the Tribulation. At the end of the Tribulation all nations will attack Israel, and Jesus Christ will physically return, leading the armies of heaven. At the Battle of Armeggedon they will destroy everyone who is not a believer. Then Satan will be bound, and Jesus will set up the Millennial Kingdom, headquartered in Jerusalem. Jesus and the saints will rule over the nations of the Earth for a thousand years. During this period there will be people born who are not loyal to Christ. However, it usually will not be obvious. Therefore, at the end of the thousand-year period, God will release Satan and let him tempt those who inhabit the Earth. A large group will take up arms against the Lord and be defeated. Then, Christ will judge all who have ever lived, giving rewards to some and punishment to others. Those who were "destroyed" will be cast into the Lake of Fire, i.e., Hell. After that, God will destroy heaven and Earth because they have been polluted by sin. He will create a new heaven and a new Earth, put those who were saved on the new Earth, and rule it forever.

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#191434 - 08/19/10 11:55 AM Re: US population is becoming more secular [Re: Greg]
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There is good reason to believe that God will remodel this old earth after it has been cleansed of wickedness and evil and not build a new earth from scratch. I can't find anything you stated to differ from my own understanding of those events except sinners will not be rewarded at judgement day, only judgement, and all christans will have already been judged long before ths event. I doubt anyone has any true idea what hell is or how it will function but will not be a pleasent place to be.
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#191435 - 08/19/10 11:59 AM Re: US population is becoming more secular [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
corlorde
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
There is good reason to believe that God will remodel this old earth after it has been cleansed of wickedness and evil and not build a new earth from scratch.


After reading Greg's posts, it appears we are indeed in God's image. In other words, we are a chip off of the old block.

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God will begin executing judgments against unbelievers, during a period called the Tribulation. At the end of the Tribulation all nations will attack Israel, and Jesus Christ will physically return, leading the armies of heaven. At the Battle of Armeggedon they will destroy everyone who is not a believer. Then Satan will be bound, and Jesus will set up the Millennial Kingdom, headquartered in Jerusalem. Jesus and the saints will rule over the nations of the Earth for a thousand years. During this period there will be people born who are not loyal to Christ. However, it usually will not be obvious. Therefore, at the end of the thousand-year period, God will release Satan and let him tempt those who inhabit the Earth. A large group will take up arms against the Lord and be defeated. Then, Christ will judge all who have ever lived, giving rewards to some and punishment to others. Those who were "destroyed" will be cast into the Lake of Fire, i.e., Hell. After that, God will destroy heaven and Earth because they have been polluted by sin. He will create a new heaven and a new Earth, put those who were saved on the new Earth, and rule it forever.


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#191436 - 08/19/10 12:21 PM Re: US population is becoming more secular [Re: corlorde]
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Or, the entire Book of Revelation is really just a cryptic message to first century Christians to keep up their morale in the face of the persecutions of Nero, whose full name just happens to add up to 666 when converted to Hebrew. If that's true then the whole idea of Armeggedon and the end of times isn't going to happen at all, and everybody who obsesses about it is just wasting their time.

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Most scholars believe that 666 refers to Roman Emperor Nero[3][5][13] (whose name, written in Aramaic, can be valued at 666, using the Hebrew numerology of gematria), a manner of speaking against the emperor without the Roman authorities knowing. Also "Nero Caesar" in the Hebrew alphabet is נרון קסר NRWN QSR, which when used as numbers represent 50 200 6 50 100 60 200, which add to 666.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast
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#191439 - 08/19/10 01:05 PM Re: US population is becoming more secular [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
There is good reason to believe that God will remodel this old earth after it has been cleansed of wickedness and evil and not build a new earth from scratch.

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