#191268 - 08/16/10 02:58 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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ronniechoate34
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Yes, but with all this internet information at your fingertips, you don't have to maintain ignorance anymore...
Yes, internet information. That's a rich resource but some of it isn't worth anyone's time.
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#191269 - 08/16/10 03:05 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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ronniechoate34
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....After all, people are going to hell for that kind of thing everyday. ... How can you presume to know who is going to hell? That isn't your domain. It is God's.
Isaiah:47:8: Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children: Isaiah:47:9: But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments. Isaiah:47:10: For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me. Isaiah:47:11: Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know. Isaiah:47:12: Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail. Isaiah:47:13: Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Isaiah:47:14: Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. Isaiah:47:15: Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee.
Is that clear enough?
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#191270 - 08/16/10 03:12 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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Ronnie, it should be extremely clear to you that whatever message you feel you're trying to deliver it's getting a very poor reception, even from fellow Christians. A major part of it is that your method of persuasion is pretty unpalatable to most people.
It may well seem to you that some very precise answers have been revealed to you, but please recognize that your sole authority just isn't going to be compelling to others. Most adults have developed a spiritual position that they're comfortable with and aren't easily talked out of it.
You need to respect that before anyone will take you seriously. Most of us are here to discuss various aspects of spirituality rather than to preach and seek converts. If that approach is interesting to you then your opinions will be welcomed, otherwise expect the strong resistance you are getting from nearly all quarters to continue.
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#191271 - 08/16/10 05:52 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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flicka
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I guess it will do no good if I point out to you that Isaiah is speaking directly to Babylon and predicting the rise & fall if their empire?
Isaiah 47:1 1 Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: [there is] no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate. Beside the fact that this empire came & went many, many years ago (as predicted in Isaiah 47), this is old covenent history and does not relate to Christians today, in any fashion.
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#191272 - 08/16/10 05:54 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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flicka
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Yes, internet information. That's a rich resource but some of it isn't worth anyone's time.
As with all things...
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#191273 - 08/16/10 06:09 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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ronniechoate34
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I guess it will do no good if I point out to you that Isaiah is speaking directly to Babylon and predicting the rise & fall if their empire? Isaiah 47:1 1 Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: [there is] no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate. Beside the fact that this empire came & went many, many years ago (as predicted in Isaiah 47), this is old covenent history and does not relate to Christians today, in any fashion.
No it wouldn't do you any good to tell me those things. And it wouldn't do me any good to explain prophecy in similitude to you and how this relates to our present day situation here in America.
Anyways, astrology is a sin and unrepentant sinners wind up in hell.
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#191275 - 08/16/10 06:42 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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lol...hell, like heaven, only exists in fantasy.
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#191276 - 08/16/10 06:45 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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ronniechoate34
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lol...hell, like heaven, only exists in fantasy.
John:14:2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. John:14:3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Matthew:10:28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (08/16/10 06:46 PM)
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#191280 - 08/16/10 07:18 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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flicka
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Anyways, astrology is a sin and unrepentant sinners wind up in hell.
Is Astronomy a sin also?
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#191283 - 08/16/10 08:01 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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shakey56
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lol...hell, like heaven, only exists in fantasy. John:14:2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. John:14:3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. Matthew:10:28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Quoting a bad novel does nothing to strengthen your case.
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#191287 - 08/16/10 08:54 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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....After all, people are going to hell for that kind of thing everyday. ... How can you presume to know who is going to hell? That isn't your domain. It is God's. Isaiah:47:8: Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children: Isaiah:47:9: But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments. Isaiah:47:10: For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me. Isaiah:47:11: Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know. Isaiah:47:12: Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail. Isaiah:47:13: Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Isaiah:47:14: Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. Isaiah:47:15: Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee. Is that clear enough?
It's clear you're a pretty lonely dude.
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#191289 - 08/16/10 09:57 PM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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MerryA
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He's gone round the bend! Astrology is a sin - I don't think God - who made the heavens - agrees with you.
BOO! LOL
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#191294 - 08/17/10 05:38 AM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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ronniechoate34
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....After all, people are going to hell for that kind of thing everyday. ... How can you presume to know who is going to hell? That isn't your domain. It is God's. Isaiah:47:8: Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children: Isaiah:47:9: But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments. Isaiah:47:10: For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me. Isaiah:47:11: Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know. Isaiah:47:12: Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail. Isaiah:47:13: Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Isaiah:47:14: Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. Isaiah:47:15: Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee. Is that clear enough? It's clear you're a pretty lonely dude.
Yep, it's even more clear that you don't know anything about me but it makes you feel good to pretend that you do.
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#191295 - 08/17/10 05:44 AM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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ronniechoate34
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He's gone round the bend! Astrology is a sin - I don't think God - who made the heavens - agrees with you.
BOO! LOL
You don't think that anyone agrees with me. It's because you don't know any better.
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#191296 - 08/17/10 06:38 AM
Re: NASA, NOAA, and SATAN
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MerryA
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He's gone round the bend! Astrology is a sin - I don't think God - who made the heavens - agrees with you.
BOO! LOL You don't think that anyone agrees with me. It's because you don't know any better.
If one person or one million agreed with you, you would still be a person who is spreading hate and fear, claiming to be a Christian to support your hate and fear. I doubt God is pleased with that - He still loves you in spite of your poor choices.
I recognize false teaching when I read it.
BOO!
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