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#191138 - 08/12/10 07:09 PM The Bridge Maker
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The Ponitifex Maximus, the pope, or in ye olden times, Caesar.


Will the pope bridge the religious gaps that exist and bind the religions together through the ecumenical movement?


I doubt it.


But you've gotta admit it, he's sure giving it all of the hell that he can muster to get the job done.








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#191175 - 08/14/10 10:10 AM Re: The Bridge Maker [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Yawn - more Catholic-bashing?
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#191177 - 08/14/10 10:29 AM Re: The Bridge Maker [Re: ghoti]
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Evidently, he is also changing history 'cause Caesar was not Catholic. LOL
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#191180 - 08/14/10 11:01 AM Re: The Bridge Maker [Re: MerryA]
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Originally Posted By: MerryA
Evidently, he is also changing history 'cause Caesar was not Catholic. LOL



Caesar's title was also Pontifex Maximus.

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#191181 - 08/14/10 11:25 AM Re: The Bridge Maker [Re: ronniechoate34]
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That title was bestowed by the Romans beginning before 700BC, so it clearly pre-dates Christianity and the Catholic church.

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Incomplete list of Pontifices Maximi
753 BC to 712 BC - Duties and power of office (even if perhaps not the title) held by the Kings of Rome
712 BC - Numa Marcius
...
509 BC - Papirius
...
449 BC - Quintus Furius
431 BC - Cornelius Cossus
420 BC - Spurius Minucius[35][36]
390 BC - Follius Flaccinator
...
332 BC - Cornelius Callissa
304 BC - Cornelius Scipio Barbatus, possibly Lucius Cornelius Scipio Barbatus
...
254 BC - Tiberius Coruncanius
243 BC - Lucius Caecilius Metellus (d. 221 BC), resigned or removed from office circa 237 BC.
237 BC - Lucius Cornelius Lentulus Caudinus (d. ca 213 BC)
212 BC - Publius Licinius Crassus Dives (d. 183 BC),
183 BC - Gaius Servilius Geminus (d. 180 BC), possibly Gaius Servilius C.f. Geminus
180 BC - Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (d. 152 BC)
152 BC - Vacant
150 BC - Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica Corculum (d. 141 BC)
141 BC - Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica Serapio (d. 132 BC Pergamum, Asia Minor)
132 BC - Publius Licinius Crassus Dives Mucianus (killed in battle 131 BC, Asia Minor)
130 BC - Publius Mucius Scaevola (d. 115 BC or 113 BC)
115 BC - Lucius Caecilius Metellus Dalmaticus,
103 BC - Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus (d. 88 BC)
89 BC - Quintus Mucius Scaevola Pontifex (murdered 82 BC in the Temple of Vesta)
81 BC - Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius (d. ca 63 BC)
63 BC - Gaius Julius Caesar (d. 44 BC)
44 BC - Marcus Aemilius Lepidus, triumvir (d. 13 BC),
6 March 12 BC - Augustus
12 BC to AD 376 - Held by the Emperors
From some indeterminate later date to present, the title "Pontifex Maximus" is applied to the Popes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifex_Maximus
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#191185 - 08/14/10 12:05 PM Re: The Bridge Maker [Re: ghoti]
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ghoti -- don't confuse ronniechoate with real history.
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#191199 - 08/14/10 04:56 PM Re: The Bridge Maker [Re: Skylark]
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The Pontifex was not simply a priest. He had both political and religious authority. It is not clear which of the two came first or had the most importance. In practice, particularly during the late Republic, the office of Pontifex Maximus was generally held by a member of a politically prominent family. It was a coveted position mainly for the great prestige it conferred on the holder; Julius Caesar became pontifex in 73 BC and pontifex maximus in 63 BC.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifex_Maximus

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#191207 - 08/14/10 08:43 PM Re: The Bridge Maker [Re: ronniechoate34]
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He was the head of the official state religion, which was Pagan until emporer Constantine switched the state religion to Christianity in the 4th century AD. What point are you trying to make in this thread, anyway?
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