#191025 - 08/09/10 09:54 PM
Re: Another approach to religion.
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shakey56
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Virgin Mary tortillas are tasty!
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#191028 - 08/10/10 11:07 AM
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That is why the Lord Jesus sent His Holy Spirit to live within every true believer and committed to the Lord. He comforts us wth God's peace and brings to our rememberance the truths of God so when we read the bible He sees that we know the truth that other unbelievers dismiss so quickly.
Tortillas are pretty good but probly better wth salsa than a vague picture of anyone on them!
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#191029 - 08/10/10 11:07 AM
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That is why the Lord Jesus sent His Holy Spirit to live within every true believer and committed to the Lord. He comforts us wth God's peace and brings to our rememberance the truths of God so when we read the bible He sees that we know the truth that other unbelievers dismiss so quickly.
Tortillas are pretty good but probly better with salsa than a vague picture of anyone on them!
Paul
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#191032 - 08/10/10 12:32 PM
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How do you figure the King James is the "one true version"?
I was joking...
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#191033 - 08/10/10 12:40 PM
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I kinda figured, but my post still relates to everyone who does think the King James is the only correct version. Other than just faith that it's the "one true version", is there any actual evidence backing that up?
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#191038 - 08/10/10 01:56 PM
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flicka
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That would be impossible...
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#191047 - 08/10/10 06:22 PM
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KJV is the most long lived, most christianizing word of God in existance above all others. IMO
(Not that I don't read the rest of the versions from time to time and compare.)
Paul:-)
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#191052 - 08/10/10 08:10 PM
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flicka
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Plus, KJV is recommended by the Gideons and is the most stolen book from motels & hotels. Funny, huh? They want you to steal it. The Gideons hope their bibles are "stolen" and consider their work has been done when one turns up missing. I guess they think it's your final crime. lol
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#191053 - 08/10/10 08:14 PM
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As I've said before if I were a religious scholar sitting around the table with others trying to decide which and what of the scriptures should go into the Bible when it was all over I'd say to me peers "how do we get people to accept and go by this?" "It's easy" one of the other scholars would say. " We just finish each book by saying THIS THE WORD OF THE LORD. Who would question it?" How do Christians know it's the word of God? Because people decided it was and said so. I'm sure the original scriptures, notes, etc. didn't say so at the end of each section they were carved into.
Therefore, since I wasn't there to see the nature and facts of the decision making events and to assume it's the word of God as stated by the editors and writers of the Bible is certainly open to question. Simply saying "I believe it" is a totally random and subjective decision. It is somewhat like the clergy,
before astronomers really began to get it all together,
believed, had faith in, knew God made it so that the earth was clearly the center of the universe. Be very careful of the canyon
between "I believe" and "it is a fact that"... I imagine no two people totally agree on every fact, story, word and implication in the Bible but each believes their view is correct. Consider the implications of that.
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#191056 - 08/11/10 05:52 AM
Re: Another approach to religion.
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KJV is the most long lived, most christianizing word of God in existance above all others. IMO
(Not that I don't read the rest of the versions from time to time and compare.)
Paul:-)
Not true, Paulwa. The Catholic Bible has existed since the 400's AD so it's been around nearly 1200 years longer than the KJV. Catholics are also by far the largest Christian denomination world-wide.
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#191060 - 08/11/10 11:39 AM
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I personally do not believe the statistics you keep bringing up Steve. Most are far outdated. We need some up to date statistics..that are unbiased! After the rapture your nold statistics may be a bit more accurate. ;-)
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#191071 - 08/11/10 02:24 PM
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Paulwa, the Latin Vulgate Bible was first translated by Jerome in 405 AD at the order of Pope Damasus I. This was the accepted Bible by the Catholic church until it was later offered as a translation into English and other languages. That means it pre-dated the KJV by 1200 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgate
World-wide there are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics and about 670 million followers of all the Protestant denominations combined. That means nearly 2/3 of all Christians in the world are Catholics and only about 1/3 are the various Protestants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members
If you've got any information that contradicts these facts, feel free to post it together with links.
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#191072 - 08/11/10 02:49 PM
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Paul doesn't need or want info that contradicts his opinion 
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#191073 - 08/11/10 03:09 PM
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I'll go with Shakey on this one. :-)
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#191077 - 08/11/10 03:45 PM
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OK, but just realize that what you believe to be true may well be contradicted by the actual truth.
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