#191004 - 08/09/10 03:48 PM
Re: Another approach to religion.
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Paulwa_dup1
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Yes I could probably post the entire bible on here and I doubt God would feel robbed or offended.:-)
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#191006 - 08/09/10 03:58 PM
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flicka
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I wonder how they like it when they are told that they are going to hell for their beliefs.
It saddens me that some Christians carry this around as a trump card.
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#191007 - 08/09/10 04:16 PM
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Yes I could probably post the entire bible on here and I doubt God would feel robbed or offended.:-)
But we would all be bored to hell 
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#191009 - 08/09/10 06:01 PM
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Yes I could probably post the entire bible on here and I doubt God would feel robbed or offended.:-)
actually, i don't think the bible IS copyrighted (realistically, who'd hold the rights?) - so there probably wouldn't be any legal prohibition against that. in fact, you probably could find the entire text on some website or other.
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#191010 - 08/09/10 06:22 PM
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ronniechoate34
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The Bible isn't copyrighted but the niv is. You need permission to post it all here.
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#191011 - 08/09/10 06:43 PM
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flicka
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The only version of the Bible that isn't under copyright is the King James Version.
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#191013 - 08/09/10 08:44 PM
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shakey56
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So God holds copyrights? Gawddamn!
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#191014 - 08/09/10 09:01 PM
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The internet copyright law says anything written on the internet after April 1, 1989, is AUTOMATICALLY considered coprighted with no need for the author to apply or do anything to get it. The only exceptions are if the author willingly gives the material public domain status. In that case, anyone is free to copy, reproduce, or repost that information without having to get permission from the author.
Otherwise, EVERYTHING posted on the internet is automatically given copyrighted status. That means you can't just copy and paste stuff willy-nilly without the potential of getting in trouble.
What you are allowed to do is post brief quotes from articles or posts written by others for the purpose of critique or review, but you still have to give a link to the original.
This gets violated all the time and there have been a lot of examples of people getting successfully sued over it. A little obscure website like NM isn't likely to draw enough attention to cause a lawsuit, but it could happen.
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
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#191016 - 08/09/10 09:15 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Anything other than the KJV is to be quesgtioned for accuracy and even the old KJV may have typographical errors.
Paul
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#191017 - 08/09/10 09:15 PM
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flicka
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So God holds copyrights? Gawddamn!
No. The people making money off God hold copyrights. God gave the ONE TRUE VERSION (aka King James Version) to Public Domain.
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#191018 - 08/09/10 09:31 PM
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shakey56
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lol...so the one true version was written around the time the shroud farce was created?
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#191020 - 08/09/10 09:36 PM
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Believe what you want Shakey..your perogative and your judgement.
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#191022 - 08/09/10 09:52 PM
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flicka
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lol...so the one true version was written around the time the shroud farce was created?
Truthfully, I have no clue. I have avoided the shroud deal completely. I'm like Paulwa in that I don't bother myself with such hogwash (unless it's the virgin Mary on a tortilla featured on Ebay).
My preference for the King James Version of the bible stems from my upbringing in church & parochial school. I've grown accustomed to the writing style & prose of that version. It pisses me off when others offer me "words or phrases from their mindset".
On a side note...the guy I dated for 4 years before I met Bill, gave me a NIV version of the bible -- with study guide -- for Christmas one year. Ermmm... Is that a "polite" way of saying that you think my thoughts on the bible are off base, or what???
He was LDS at the time, but I think he really wanted to be an atheist. Not sure why I related this, but I'm sure it's relevant. :-)
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#191023 - 08/09/10 09:53 PM
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lol...how many times do I have to tell you? For me belief has nothing to do with it. I accept or reject evidence. The only viable evidence places the shroud in the middle ages.
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#191024 - 08/09/10 09:54 PM
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How do you figure the King James is the "one true version"? I like it because I enjoy the flowery and archaic version of English used in it, but a lot of people find it frustrating and difficult to read.
The King James was NOT the first ever translation into English. The Bishop's Bible, the Geneva Bible, and the Great Bible, among others, all preceded it and were used as a basis for the King James. The King James has also been revised several times since the first printing.
Many of the newer versions of the Bible are actual translations directly from the old Hebrew, Greek, and Latin documents into more modern language than the King James. The real problem with any translation, even the King James, is that it isn't ever possible to convert every nuance of one language into another without the risk of losing some of the subtlety of meaning, especially with a book as complex as the Bible.
That's why IMO it's dangerous to obsess too much over specific passages in the Bible. Even if you assume the originals were inspired directly by God, those originals were lost long ago and all we have to go on is copies of copies and translations, and there's no way to ever prove that they're really accurate.
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