#190480 - 07/31/10 02:43 PM
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ronniechoate34
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Ezekiel:28:13: Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Is it coincidence that pan carries a pipe, a "panpipe", also known as a syrinx. From the word syrinx we get the word syringe. I wonder if there's any kind of a connection there.
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#190483 - 07/31/10 03:05 PM
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This guy worshiped pan.
And yes, he is a real person. And without him we may have never made it into space.
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#190491 - 07/31/10 03:54 PM
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If you truly wondered, you would not be a Christian.
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#190493 - 07/31/10 03:58 PM
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Pan was the Greek god of the woods and fields. He did play a pipe called a Syrinx, which was named for his lost true love.
Since Greek culture dominated most of the eastern Mediterranean during the period the Old Testament was written, it's hardly surprising that the Jews of the time disparaged and demonized the Greek gods. They were the main competition at the time.
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#190517 - 08/01/10 09:43 AM
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Ezekiel:28:13: Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Is it coincidence that pan carries a pipe, a "panpipe", also known as a syrinx. From the word syrinx we get the word syringe. I wonder if there's any kind of a connection there.
don't bet on it.
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#190528 - 08/01/10 05:47 PM
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Aren't Ares and Mercury a couple of other names that satan has masqueraded about the world using? Yeah,,,,they are.
And yet NASA has named their rocket programs and vehicles to them by name.
HEY! I just had a thought. I wonder if that Jack Parsons fella' left any kind of a legacy?
I guess it's just a mystery. I wonder if there are any clues.
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#190532 - 08/02/10 12:54 AM
Re: Syrinx
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Ronnie, you've got to remember the history of early Christianity. It was only a tiny oppressed minority religion up until Emperor Constantine converted in the 4th century. Christianity then came to be the official religion of the entire Roman Empire.
Up until that time the Empire had followed a Pagan religion with multiple gods and goddesses, and Jupiter as the king of gods. The areas controlled by Rome, including most of Europe, followed a variety of Pagan faiths and the Romans had pretty much allowed these people to continue with their local beliefs.
When the Roman Empire embraced Christianity all that changed. The new faith was imposed on everyone under their control, and that meant the Pagan beliefs had to go. One major way that was done was by demonizing the Pagan gods.
That's where the notion that Pagan gods were actually Satan in disguise originated, and you seem to have swallowed that propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
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#190534 - 08/02/10 06:26 AM
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Why do you only quote the Old Testament? We are under the New not the Old. Your fixation on the Old Testament for someone who claims to be a Christian is troubling.
I am beginning to think you are intentionally misleading people.
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#190536 - 08/02/10 06:37 AM
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Why do you only quote the Old Testament? We are under the New not the Old. Your fixation on the Old Testament for someone who claims to be a Christian is troubling.
Nice! I was just about to point that out.
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#190541 - 08/02/10 07:50 AM
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So much ignorance.
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#190543 - 08/02/10 09:15 AM
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So much ignorance.
there's a pot calling the kettle black.
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#190545 - 08/02/10 09:35 AM
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According to the Bible Jesus is God, and God is jealous and won't put up with the worship of any other. This includes the religion of the Wiccans, God is vexed by them. God will not show them any pity on judgment day, and I won't pat them on the back and tell them that they're okay, because they aren't okay. They are in a lot of trouble and they teach others that it's good to follow them. Follow them straight to hell. Nope, not this guy. And I'll warn as many as will listen away from them.
Matthew:23:33: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Tolerance? Jesus didn't tolerate any nonsense and He's about to show this world, Wiccans included, just exactly what He is about. And He isn't a joke.
John:2:13: And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, John:2:14: And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: John:2:15: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; John:2:16: And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. John:2:17: And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
People who live in ignorance are about to receive one mighty wake up call.
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#190548 - 08/02/10 10:07 AM
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According to the Bible Jesus is God, and God is jealous and won't put up with the worship of any other.
you do realize that's not the behavior of an omnipotent deity, that's the response of a spoiled child throwing a tantrum when he is not the center of attention.
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#190550 - 08/02/10 10:24 AM
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According to the Bible Jesus is God, and God is jealous and won't put up with the worship of any other. you do realize that's not the behavior of an omnipotent deity, that's the response of a spoiled child throwing a tantrum when he is not the center of attention.
No. What I realize is that God is the law giver. What God says goes and anything that goes against the laws set by God is only creating chaos. I realize also that men are God's creation and men do not fear Him as they ought to do. Men are selfish beasts who refuse to pay homage to their creator and instead create their own gods to serve. Men trample on everything that's holy and they curse God day's without number.
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#190552 - 08/02/10 10:34 AM
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if your god were truly omnipotent then why would he feel threatened by humans not paying homage? is he insecure?
you do realize that when authority figures have to resort to fear in order to control their subordinates that's usually called tyranny.
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#190559 - 08/02/10 01:31 PM
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According to the Bible Jesus is God, and God is jealous and won't put up with the worship of any other. This includes the religion of the Wiccans, God is vexed by them.
I disagree. God will save me from you and your kind, in the end, by taking the totality of everything I have done, into consideration.
That's what I believe. At least, that is what I hope a "just" God does...not your version of it.
And I will win, because I am correct. And at the end of the day, you cannot disprove it.
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#190562 - 08/02/10 02:03 PM
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According to the Bible Jesus is God, and God is jealous and won't put up with the worship of any other. This includes the religion of the Wiccans, God is vexed by them. I disagree. God will save me from you and your kind, in the end, by taking the totality of everything I have done, into consideration. That's what I believe. At least, that is what I hope a "just" God does...not your version of it. And I will win, because I am correct. And at the end of the day, you cannot disprove it.
I won't have to disprove it. You're gonna know that you were wrong on that day, unless you repent first.
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#190563 - 08/02/10 02:33 PM
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According to the Bible Jesus is God, and God is jealous and won't put up with the worship of any other. This includes the religion of the Wiccans, God is vexed by them. I disagree. God will save me from you and your kind, in the end, by taking the totality of everything I have done, into consideration. That's what I believe. At least, that is what I hope a "just" God does...not your version of it. And I will win, because I am correct. And at the end of the day, you cannot disprove it. I won't have to disprove it. You're gonna know that you were wrong on that day, unless you repent first.
Same can be said for you
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#190564 - 08/02/10 02:42 PM
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You're gonna know that you were wrong on that day, unless you repent first.
No, you'll know that I was right, "on that day".
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#190565 - 08/02/10 03:34 PM
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A just God demands justice. Corlorde, No matter how God deals with you you'll know that a fair balance has been used. God is very reasonable and has given us all ample warning. And He has sent us a comforter.
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#190568 - 08/02/10 05:56 PM
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You are sure gunna be screwed when you find out any one of the countless other religions man has created is THE religion. One can only hope that that God is as much of a prick as your God when He deals with you.
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#190575 - 08/02/10 06:39 PM
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Ronnie, you're either an internet troll who just enjoys provoking people or you simply don't get it. Effective evangelism for Christianity involves showing people the superiority of your values through positive attraction.
Your smug and intolerant attitude flat out won't f'n work at convincing anyone. Anyone who has worked out their own spiritual position just gets PO'd over crap like that.
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#190586 - 08/03/10 08:05 AM
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I vote he is a troll and he doesn't get it. He is not interested in evangelism, he is only interested in condemnation. He doesn't care if convinces anyone, he is in it for the thrill of his version of a slap-down.
His theology is of his own making, he doesn't attend a Christian church to discuss faith. He simply reads the Bible and draws his own conclusions without the benefit of historical relevance or pastoral leadership.
At least he has a hobby.
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#190587 - 08/03/10 09:57 AM
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Yup, you've done it again, MerryA, you've proven yourself to be a most unworthy judge. I'm glad that I won't have to face you on judgment day.
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#190588 - 08/03/10 10:10 AM
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Yup, you've done it again, MerryA, you've proven yourself to be a most unworthy judge. I'm glad that I won't have to face you on judgment day.
And the rest of us are glad we won't have to face YOU on judgment day.
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#190589 - 08/03/10 10:22 AM
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That's fine. I'd be a terrible judge anyway. There are tons of things that I just can't be to sure about.
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#190619 - 08/04/10 05:46 AM
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There are tons of things that I just can't be to sure about.
Like your religion, for example.
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#190622 - 08/04/10 05:58 AM
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Ghoti, I'm not worried about what the majority believes. The majority is wrong, they always have been.
Besides, no one really has a clue until the Holy Ghost gives them one, and you don't have one.
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#190623 - 08/04/10 06:04 AM
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Ghoti, I'm not worried about what the majority believes. The majority is wrong, they always have been. That includes you.
I know I'm probably wrong about a lot of things. How do you deal with such perfection? Sounds more like a burden than enlightenmentment, to me. Has it ever occured to you that perhaps you might be wrong? If so, how would you process such notions. Would you be able?
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#190625 - 08/04/10 06:12 AM
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Ghoti, I'm not worried about what the majority believes. The majority is wrong, they always have been. That includes you. I know I'm probably wrong about a lot of things. How do you deal with such perfection? Sounds more like a burden than enlightenmentment, to me. Has it ever occured to you that perhaps you might be wrong? If so, how would you process such notions. Would you be able?
Man, read the Word, believe the Word and get a clue.
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#190628 - 08/04/10 06:37 AM
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Man, read the Word, believe the Word and get a clue.
Get a clue? You mean your "clue"? I'm sure there will be a day when you, or people like you, will try to "bend" me to your version of things. It isn't happening. I'm still here, and I always will be. In other words..."make me". But I've been dealing with regimented ideology all my life, so no big deal, really.
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#190629 - 08/04/10 06:40 AM
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I didn't write the Bible. God spelled all of this out for us a long time ago. God hasn't been waiting on the likes of me to enlighten people. He has been revealing His truth for a very long time now.
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#190632 - 08/04/10 07:42 AM
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OK, Ronnie, so you've had some personal revelation that you find convincing. I'm happy for you, but did it ever occur to you that others may have had similar but very different revelations?
If the creator is truly infinite, then he can take any form he chooses. What's wrong with the notion that he has appeared to others down the ages in ways that will make sense to them?
My personal beliefs bring me comfort and serenity and motivate me to work to help others in need. Do your beliefs do the same for you?
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#190633 - 08/04/10 07:47 AM
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I didn't write the Bible. God spelled all of this out for us a long time ago. God hasn't been waiting on the likes of me to enlighten people. He has been revealing His truth for a very long time now.
Yeah? God has put different versions of "truth" out to many people, in many different languages, and "everyone's version of truth" is correct .
How did you get here? Be honest.
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#190636 - 08/04/10 07:53 AM
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Honestly, you're too clueless to understand.
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#190640 - 08/04/10 08:06 AM
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Honestly, you're too clueless to understand.
You think? Mayibe I think the same thing? Are you educated and articulate enough to explain "it" to me?
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#190641 - 08/04/10 08:09 AM
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Honestly, you're too clueless to understand.
I'd like for you to be precise in explaining how you got here. Are you disabled? Remember, I'm not some "off the street assclown" and I have already looked your name up. Can you be honest?
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#190644 - 08/04/10 08:23 AM
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Ohh, I got here by accident. I googled faith and religion forums one day and stumbled upon this site. It took me a long time to realize that this site was for the disabled. I never really gave that any thought until one day the newmobility thing hit me. I started to make a post about it but didn't.
I am not confined to a wheelchair or anything. I do have health issues but my mobility isn't one of them.
I don't know why you quoted that derogatory a-clown thing. I'm pretty sure I've never called anyone that before so you aren't quoting me, I don't think. I did say a lot of stupid things before I repented though.
So, you've looked me up have you? Why? I haven't looked you up. Maybe I should be concerned because of your angry tones towards me. But I'm not.
Seriously though. Why would you waste your time being that concerned about me? Why not put it to better use? You know, worshiping God and working out your salvation with fear and trembling.
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#190648 - 08/04/10 08:51 AM
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Ohh, I got here by accident. I googled faith and religion forums one day and stumbled upon this site. It took me a long time to realize that this site was for the disabled. I never really gave that any thought until one day the newmobility thing hit me. I started to make a post about it but didn't.
I am not confined to a wheelchair or anything. I do have health issues but my mobility isn't one of them.
well, we do welcome people with a wide variety of disabling conditions, but all this obnoxiously aggressive proselytizing is rapidly relegating you to troll status.
i still do not understand your reasons for posting here, given that you don't seem to have much in common w/the rest of us. it's fine if you want to engage in honest dialogue, but if you can't respect other people's beliefs as you want others to respect yours, you're not going to make any friends here.
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#190649 - 08/04/10 09:00 AM
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if your god were truly omnipotent then why would he feel threatened by humans not paying "homage"? is he insecure?
you do realize that when authority figures have to resort to fear in order to control their subordinates that's usually called tyranny.
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#190651 - 08/04/10 09:24 AM
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Ghoti, I'm not worried about what the majority believes. The majority is wrong, they always have been.
Besides, no one really has a clue until the Holy Ghost gives them one, and you don't have one.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
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#190672 - 08/04/10 01:16 PM
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He is a troll. ARRGGGGGGGG!
Ronnie is selling salvation people. Get on board the Ronnie train! bleck
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#190678 - 08/04/10 01:36 PM
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#190681 - 08/04/10 01:49 PM
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and who made you g-d's spokesperson?
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#190682 - 08/04/10 01:52 PM
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#190685 - 08/04/10 02:36 PM
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God did move me to speak on His behalf. He does that ya' know.
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#190692 - 08/04/10 03:29 PM
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And sometimes folks just have delusions of grandeur, ya know.
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#190694 - 08/04/10 03:56 PM
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Ohh, I got here by accident. I googled faith and religion forums one day and stumbled upon this site.
Please stop lying. It makes a mockery out of both of us.
So, you've looked me up have you? Why? I haven't looked you up. Maybe I should be concerned because of your angry tones towards me. But I'm not.
Yes, I looked you up..also, I'm not angry, at all. I'm actually not really worried about you, or your ilk. I'm not hiding and my position is this: you are full of shit.
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#190696 - 08/04/10 03:58 PM
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God did move me to speak on His behalf. He does that ya' know.
Me too.
He told me you were full of shit and that, I'm right.
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#190700 - 08/04/10 04:16 PM
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And sometimes folks just have delusions of grandeur, ya know.
You mean like they have met god or have Been singled out and enlightened, that kind of stuff. Ya' I know.
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#190701 - 08/04/10 04:17 PM
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Please stop lying. It makes a mockery out of both of us.
What on earth are you talking about?
Yes, I looked you up..also, I'm not angry, at all. I'm actually not really worried about you, or your ilk. I'm not hiding and my position is this: you are full of shit.
Whatever.
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#190709 - 08/04/10 04:42 PM
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Yeah, but you do realize that many, many people over time have claimed that God singled them out for a message and have been found to be psychotic or suffering from a brain tumor or just plain lying or something similar. You'll have to excuse us if we have a hard time simply accepting your authority to speak for God just on your say-so.
Also, even if your message was valid, how do you know it doesn't just apply to you personally and not to others?
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#190713 - 08/04/10 06:01 PM
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I've never claimed that God has singled me out. My only claim has ever been that the Word of God is available to us all.
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#190715 - 08/04/10 06:09 PM
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The only proof that the Bible is the word of God is that it claims to be. Every holy book of every religion in the world also makes that same claim, and they can't all be right.
Just because you choose to believe the Bible and reject the others doesn't prove a thing.
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#190746 - 08/05/10 09:57 AM
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Sounds like Corey has some inside knowledge about Ronnie. Care to enlighten the rest of us?
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#190750 - 08/05/10 10:23 AM
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Sounds like Corey has some inside knowledge about Ronnie. Care to enlighten the rest of us?
Not much to it really, he was asked to come here in my estimation...no inside knowledge. In its own way, seems to be ok...discussion and all of that.
Having said that, screw it, he can say what he likes; my life won't change.
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#190752 - 08/05/10 10:28 AM
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No one asked me to come here.
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#190753 - 08/05/10 10:29 AM
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corlorde
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No one asked me to come here.
I don't believe you.
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#190754 - 08/05/10 10:37 AM
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I told you how I got here. And I added the word forums or forums to my search. I found this place years ago, I did post under the name cronnie36.
Just relax okay, I don't know who you are.
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#190756 - 08/05/10 10:52 AM
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I told you how I got here. And I added the word forums or forums to my search. I found this place years ago, I did post under the name cronnie36.
Just relax okay, I don't know who you are.
You know what?
God Bless you and yours Ronnie. Take care of yourself.
~Corey
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#190757 - 08/05/10 10:53 AM
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oh, poor cronnie! who is to say that cronnie even knows what ronnie is doing here? LMBO
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#190765 - 08/05/10 11:52 AM
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Is Ronnie a devo-troll? YIKES!
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#190766 - 08/05/10 12:16 PM
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Ronnie:
Remember me? 
I noticed you made a linkback to the 67 page thread on another forum (which I will not post, in assumption that it violates local rules). I noticed you abandoned your cause there because too many people disagreed with you. Is that why you started posting here?
Signed, Your best friend and occult student
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#190767 - 08/05/10 12:21 PM
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Ronnie: Remember me?  I noticed you made a linkback to the 67 page thread on another forum (which I will not post, in assumption that it violates local rules). I noticed you abandoned your cause there because too many people disagreed with you. Is that why you started posting here? Signed, Your best friend and occult student
I don't know who you are. Refresh my memory please.
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#190768 - 08/05/10 12:22 PM
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I told you how I got here. And I added the word forums or forums to my search. I found this place years ago, I did post under the name cronnie36.
Just relax okay, I don't know who you are. You know what? God Bless you and yours Ronnie. Take care of yourself. ~Corey
I'm glad that you've lightened up. You were beginning to worry me.
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#190771 - 08/05/10 12:58 PM
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Not quite like the ron I remember..the one from Arkansas I think..wonder where that Ron is these days? Paul
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#190783 - 08/05/10 02:43 PM
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Just relax okay, I don't know who you are.
Are you the evangelist from the Winkler murder case?
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#190785 - 08/05/10 03:08 PM
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Ronnie: Remember me?  I noticed you made a linkback to the 67 page thread on another forum (which I will not post, in assumption that it violates local rules). I noticed you abandoned your cause there because too many people disagreed with you. Is that why you started posting here? Signed, Your best friend and occult student I don't know who you are. Refresh my memory please.
Let's take a walk down memory lane: http://www.christianforums.com/t7383578/
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#190786 - 08/05/10 03:37 PM
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Well in Ronnies defense I can kind of see where he is coming from and where he is. There are some things when we see they are showcasing evil, we should be aware of but avoid for our own spiritual cleanliness. Sometimes we must venture into the unknown with God at hand and in our minds to know what the enemynis up too. Many christians go to movies and watch things that I personally would run from..we all learn and some are more in tune to GHods will and spirit than others but we are all on the path of learning and some of us will suffer from our mistakes. Garbage in garbage out. We are the temple of Gods oly Spoirit and we should not put any sinful garbage into it, but strive to keep it clean. In the end we are all responsible for the contet of our soul of the things we have freely brought into it. We should ban together in groups where we canm to grow together and be strengthened by the Lord Jesus because He says where two or three are gathered together in my name, I am in the midst of them..so holding yourself out of the body is not good for our spiritual growth and makes us much weaker for satan to attack..and he will! Local church's are part of the body of Christ. Find one that believes as you do and support it for the lord Jesus. Paul
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#190790 - 08/05/10 03:51 PM
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And if that works for you, then I say more power to you. Just don't demand that everyone else follow your lead. Why is that hard for extreme fundies to understand when everyone else seems to get it?
Paulwa, Ronnie makes you look like a middle-of-the-roader, so you don't need to defend him. He found out just how far out he is when he posted on Christian-only websites and got the same treatment there that he's getting here.
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#190792 - 08/05/10 03:58 PM
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He found out just how far out he is when he posted on Christian-only websites and got the same treatment there that he's getting here.
Ghoti you can't seem to get enough of that. If I could only remember all of the forums and threads I've posted in where I was the minority I would post those links for you. I've been kicked out of several forums. Many of them for absolutely no reason at all that I could come up with. I just took my badgering and moved on.
Which brings me to my next post.
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#190794 - 08/05/10 04:03 PM
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When a TAB starts trying to convert PWD I cringe. Many of em, like Ronnie, won't take no for an answer. Have often wondered what their motivation is. Do they think we need it more, are a captive audience, or are just too thick to have come to our own conclusions?
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#190795 - 08/05/10 04:05 PM
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Ronnie: Remember me?  I noticed you made a linkback to the 67 page thread on another forum (which I will not post, in assumption that it violates local rules). I noticed you abandoned your cause there because too many people disagreed with you. Is that why you started posting here? Signed, Your best friend and occult student I don't know who you are. Refresh my memory please. Let's take a walk down memory lane: http://www.christianforums.com/t7383578/
Okay, now I remember. I was banned from that site before I could post my next response.
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#190797 - 08/05/10 04:06 PM
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They probably think that we'd get all fixed up if we just got right with jesus.
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#190799 - 08/05/10 04:09 PM
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Ronnie, why do you suppose you got banned from a Christian website? Doesn't that tell you how out-of-sync your thinking is compared to other Christians?
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#190802 - 08/05/10 04:56 PM
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Which brings me to my next post.
Do you know Mary Winkler?
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#190805 - 08/05/10 05:14 PM
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No, I do not know Mary Winkler.
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#190806 - 08/05/10 05:23 PM
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Ronnie, why do you suppose you got banned from a Christian website? Doesn't that tell you how out-of-sync your thinking is compared to other Christians?
Ghoti I just got banned from a website that I rarely post at. I went there today and signed in to find that I am banned and the ban is never to be lifted with no reason specified. I have been dealt with like this by these sites in the past. It seems like a cowards way out. No reason specified and none to be given. I've lost a couple of jobs for the same reason.
Who knows why these things happen? And even more importantly, who cares? I said my piece on that site and the other one. As far as I am concerned those people can shut the truth off on their boards all that they like. They'll face their own scrutiny one day. And may God have mercy on them all.
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#190809 - 08/05/10 05:31 PM
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Well I doubt you will be banned from NM for what you say Ronnie but you better put on your verbal bullet proof vest cause look lke the big guns are out looking for you! ;-) Pray and take care. Paul
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#190812 - 08/05/10 05:48 PM
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Ronnie: Remember me?  I noticed you made a linkback to the 67 page thread on another forum (which I will not post, in assumption that it violates local rules). I noticed you abandoned your cause there because too many people disagreed with you. Is that why you started posting here? Signed, Your best friend and occult student I don't know who you are. Refresh my memory please. Let's take a walk down memory lane: http://www.christianforums.com/t7383578/ Okay, now I remember. I was banned from that site before I could post my next response.
Most unfortunate, the thread has long outlived its creator and nothing of interest is happening anymore.
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#190813 - 08/05/10 05:59 PM
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You pretty much have to make death threats to get banned around here, and even then only if someone complains to the moderator. You're pretty much free to say what you like, but don't expect to get any converts. Most folks who post here have worked out their own views on spirituality and aren't easily swayed.
It seems you're quite the lone wolf in your theology, Ronnie. What makes you so sure your interpretations of things are superior to others?
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#190815 - 08/05/10 06:29 PM
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You pretty much have to make death threats to get banned around here, and even then only if someone complains to the moderator. You're pretty much free to say what you like, but don't expect to get any converts. Most folks who post here have worked out their own views on spirituality and aren't easily swayed.
It seems you're quite the lone wolf in your theology, Ronnie. What makes you so sure your interpretations of things are superior to others?
I don't feel superior. I just feel like the gospel is simple and the truths are easy to understand even for the lowliest person. It's a mystery to me at times why people don't get it.
I remember a time when it wasn't so easy for me to face the truth of God's Word. It was mighty irritating to me to say the least. I made quite a show of it for the family as well. You know, a man possessed has to indoctrinate the wee ones. I'm paying for all of that now but my prayers sustain me. I know that I love God and that all things will be made right. I don't know how, I just know that they will be.
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#190818 - 08/05/10 06:42 PM
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Well I doubt you will be banned from NM for what you say Ronnie but you better put on your verbal bullet proof vest cause look lke the big guns are out looking for you! ;-) Pray and take care. Paul
I won't sweat it. I have been minding myself but considering all of the things that are said here I was sure banning wasn't an issue. I've got higher authorities than the moderators watching.
I am not sure if you posted in this thread about replacement theology or if it was in another thread. But let me say that I don't believe that I've ever heard of it until now. I'll look into it and see what I find out. But first I'll pray for guidance. I certainly don't want to be an offense to God. And I really don't want any of that knuckle rapping thing.
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#190819 - 08/05/10 06:50 PM
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Ronnie: Remember me?  I noticed you made a linkback to the 67 page thread on another forum (which I will not post, in assumption that it violates local rules). I noticed you abandoned your cause there because too many people disagreed with you. Is that why you started posting here? Signed, Your best friend and occult student I don't know who you are. Refresh my memory please. Let's take a walk down memory lane: http://www.christianforums.com/t7383578/ Okay, now I remember. I was banned from that site before I could post my next response. Most unfortunate, the thread has long outlived its creator and nothing of interest is happening anymore.
I'm really sorry to hear that. I think it should have been closed down immediately upon my being banned. I was not to happy to see it going on without my input, but then I just got over it.
If I remember correctly I had prepared this answer for another posters who was attacking my words.
Psalms:119:105: Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
And when I went to post the scripture I found that my account had been disabled.
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#190821 - 08/05/10 07:32 PM
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Also, I am no one's teacher in the occult. Occultists are in a lot of trouble.
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#190833 - 08/06/10 02:39 AM
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Must be a matter of opinion then, I find myself doing rather well for a 19 year old. I wasn't referring to you as my teacher lol, I was referring to someone else; or rather in general.
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#190834 - 08/06/10 05:22 AM
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Must be a matter of opinion then, I find myself doing rather well for a 19 year old. I wasn't referring to you as my teacher lol, I was referring to someone else; or rather in general.
I see. That makes more sense.
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#190838 - 08/06/10 08:41 AM
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I won't sweat it. I have been minding myself but considering all of the things that are said here I was sure banning wasn't an issue. I've got higher authorities than the moderators watching.
you mean the government? 
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#190858 - 08/06/10 02:36 PM
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ronniechoate34
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I'm sure of that, but that's not what I meant.
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#190863 - 08/06/10 03:02 PM
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ghoti
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Ronnie - a question for you. You have said that you rejected Christianity when you were younger and underwent a conversion, if I'm not mistaken.
Back before your conversion, how would you have reacted to someone who preaches their faith as you do now? Do you think it would have been convincing to you, or would you have been turned off by it back then?
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#190866 - 08/06/10 05:24 PM
Re: Syrinx
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ronniechoate34
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I don't know how or why I came to love the scriptures.
I used to pick up the Bible and read and preach about the hatred of God with a hate of my own burning inside of me. Now it's those same scriptures that I thought were spiteful that are reassuring and bringing stability to my relationship with Jesus Christ.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (08/06/10 05:25 PM)
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#190879 - 08/06/10 06:30 PM
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starlight.2
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I'm sure of that, but that's not what I meant.
yes, i know what you meant. i was making a joke.
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