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#190284 - 07/28/10 09:22 AM wicca
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since paulwa and ronnie brought up wicca, here is a complete description of the wiccan religion.

wicca, description

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The ethical set is summarized in the Wiccan Rede:
Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill:
If it harm none, do what you will.


wiccan ethics

seems benign enough to me.
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#190286 - 07/28/10 09:42 AM Re: wicca [Re: starlight.2]
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Originally Posted By: starlight.2


seems benign enough to me.


It's still a belief system.
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#190326 - 07/28/10 08:52 PM Re: wicca [Re: corlorde]
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wicca is a beautiful way of life that i happen to admire a lot!
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#190327 - 07/28/10 09:11 PM Re: wicca [Re: corlorde]
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Originally Posted By: corlorde
Originally Posted By: starlight.2


seems benign enough to me.


It's still a belief system.


Belief systems aren't necessarily bad. Confusing beliefs with facts is where the problems start.
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#190338 - 07/29/10 05:27 AM Re: wicca [Re: shakey56]
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Originally Posted By: shakey56

Belief systems aren't necessarily bad. Confusing beliefs with facts is where the problems start.


Good point
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#190339 - 07/29/10 05:54 AM Re: wicca [Re: corlorde]
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Wicca is not "devil worship" as most many would have us believe.
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#190476 - 07/31/10 02:24 PM Re: wicca [Re: MerryA]
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Originally Posted By: MerryA
Wicca is not "devil worship" as most many would have us believe.



No, it's not devil worship, it's "PAN"theism in one of its many forms.


Edited by ronniechoate34 (07/31/10 02:26 PM)

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#190478 - 07/31/10 02:36 PM Re: wicca [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Pantheism is at least plausible. More than can be said for Christianity.
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#190518 - 08/01/10 09:51 AM Re: wicca [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Originally Posted By: ronniechoate34
Originally Posted By: MerryA
Wicca is not "devil worship" as most many would have us believe.



No, it's not devil worship, it's "PAN"theism in one of its many forms.


pantheism defined:

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Pantheism is the view that the Universe (Nature) and God are identical.[1] Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic or creator god. The word derives from the Ancient Greek: πᾶν (pan) meaning "all" and θεός (theos) meaning "belief that God is all". As such, Pantheism promotes the idea that "God" is better understood as a way of relating reverentially to Nature and the Universe.[2] Although there are divergences within Pantheism, the central ideas found in almost all versions are the Cosmos as an all-encompassing unity and the sacredness of Nature.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
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#190527 - 08/01/10 05:27 PM Re: wicca [Re: starlight.2]
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In addition to holding to some form of animism, many Wiccans also adhere to pantheism. Pantheism is the belief that everything is divine. The term is derived from two Greek words: pan which means "all" and theos which means "god, God, deity." Pantheism understands deity as one with nature. Since everything is deity, they believe that humans are also divine.


http://www.4truth.net/site/c.hiKXLbPNLrF/b.2904163/k.C0C1/Wicca.htm

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#190533 - 08/02/10 01:18 AM Re: wicca [Re: ronniechoate34]
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Ronnie, you might do well to follow these words from the link you posted:

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Balance boldness in sharing the gospel with gentleness. You can be bold without being overly aggressive. Also, treat Wiccans with respect. Nothing will end a witnessing opportunity faster than being disrespectful to a Wiccan.


Treating the faith of others with disrespect and arrogantly insisting that all must follow your belief system is guaranteed to get a negative reaction from people. A true missionary should ideally try to convince others by positive loving attraction of the value of his beliefs rather than by scornful disparagement of those of others.

I'm favorably impressed by the acts of kindness and compassion I see from people of faith, but fire and brimstone sermonizing absolutely turns me off, and I'm quite sure most others would agree.
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#190538 - 08/02/10 06:44 AM Re: wicca [Re: ghoti]
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It seems to me Ronnie's idea of being a Christian (I'm beginning to doubt he is what he claims) is very narrow and limits God. The message of Jesus is very simple - love God, love your neighbor as yourself. Ronnie must not love himself much with all the hate and fear he spills.
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#190540 - 08/02/10 07:49 AM Re: wicca [Re: MerryA]
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Originally Posted By: MerryA
It seems to me Ronnie's idea of being a Christian (I'm beginning to doubt he is what he claims) is very narrow and limits God. The message of Jesus is very simple - love God, love your neighbor as yourself. Ronnie must not love himself much with all the hate and fear he spills.



So much ignorance.

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#190544 - 08/02/10 09:17 AM Re: wicca [Re: ronniechoate34]
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are you being deliberately obtuse?
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#190546 - 08/02/10 09:41 AM Re: wicca [Re: starlight.2]
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No, are you?
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