#190200 - 07/27/10 09:20 AM
a question for the young-earth creationists...
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starlight.2
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do you believe that dinosaurs and humans coexisted?
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#190218 - 07/27/10 12:53 PM
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inkblister
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Well OBVIOUSLY they did!...
j/k...
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#190221 - 07/27/10 01:07 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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Well no one has a better right to ride a dinosaur than the one who created them. :-)\
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#190223 - 07/27/10 01:08 PM
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Paulwa_dup1
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We will have to let God answer that one Starlight!
Paul
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#190248 - 07/27/10 07:02 PM
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starlight.2
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We will have to let God answer that one Starlight!
Paul
way to evade the question. yes or no?
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#190252 - 07/27/10 07:34 PM
Re: a question for the young-earth creationists...
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ronniechoate34
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Yes dinosaurs did exist with men. Though after the flood the climate had drastically changed and what few dino's remained were probably hunted for food and such.
Could a massive disaster like a flood that's described in the Bible cause fossilization? Can an atomic blast create fossils? The answer to both of these questions is yes.
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#190253 - 07/27/10 07:34 PM
Re: a question for the young-earth creationists...
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Paulwa_dup1
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No evasion, just God knows and I don't since I wasn't there at that time. I personally think we did coexist at one time, but that is just my opinion.
Paul
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#190255 - 07/27/10 07:48 PM
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Job:40:12: Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.
Job:40:13: Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.
Job:40:14: Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.
Job:40:15: Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
Job:40:16: Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
Job:40:17: He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
Job:40:18: His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
Job:40:19: He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
Job:40:20: Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
Job:40:21: He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
Job:40:22: The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
Job:40:23: Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
Job:40:24: He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (07/27/10 07:48 PM)
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#190257 - 07/27/10 07:53 PM
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Job:41:1: Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
Job:41:2: Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
Job:41:3: Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?
Job:41:4: Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
Job:41:5: Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?
Job:41:6: Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?
Job:41:7: Canst thou fill his skin with barbed iron? or his head with fish spears?
Job:41:8: Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.
Job:41:9: Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?
Job:41:10: None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?
Job:41:11: Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.
Job:41:12: I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.
Job:41:13: Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?
Job:41:14: Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.
Job:41:15: His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
Job:41:16: One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
Job:41:17: They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.
Job:41:18: By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
Job:41:19: Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
Job:41:20: Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
Job:41:21: His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
Job:41:22: In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.
Job:41:23: The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
Job:41:24: His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
Job:41:25: When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
Job:41:26: The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
Job:41:27: He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.
Job:41:28: The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.
Job:41:29: Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
Job:41:30: Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
Job:41:31: He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
Job:41:32: He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
Job:41:33: Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
Job:41:34: He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.
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#190258 - 07/27/10 07:53 PM
Re: a question for the young-earth creationists...
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ronniechoate34
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Psalms:104:24: O LORD, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.
Psalms:104:25: So is this great and wide sea, wherein are things creeping innumerable, both small and great beasts.
Psalms:104:26: There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.
Psalms:104:27: These wait all upon thee; that thou mayest give them their meat in due season.
Psalms:104:28: That thou givest them they gather: thou openest thine hand, they are filled with good.
Psalms:104:29: Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.
Psalms:104:30: Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
Psalms:104:31: The glory of the LORD shall endure for ever: the LORD shall rejoice in his works.
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#190259 - 07/27/10 07:55 PM
Re: a question for the young-earth creationists...
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ronniechoate34
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Isa:27:1: In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
Isa:27:2: In that day sing ye unto her, A vineyard of red wine.
Isa:26:21: For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
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#190262 - 07/27/10 08:21 PM
Re: a question for the young-earth creationists...
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Paul I
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Humans and dinosaurs did not coexist. They were millions of years apart.
So Paul, did the American Revolution actually occur even though
you weren't there to see it?
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#190264 - 07/27/10 08:33 PM
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ghoti
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If Noah carried all the dinosaur species in the ark, it would have had to be an awful lot bigger than what the Bible claims. It's been estimated that at least 5000 different species of dinosaur fossils have been identified, and there are probably many, many more yet to be found.
Then there all the species of extinct giant lizards, amphibians, and mammals that came before and after the dinosaurs. And what about all the plant species of the present and past? Most of them would never survive being immersed in water for many days, and since they produce seeds at different times of the year Noah couldn't have just collected their seeds.
Let's not forget that Noah would have had to travel to Antarctica to collect penguins, to Australia to get Koalas, and to the Arctic to get polar bears, just to mention a few. The idea that he could have accomplished this and fit them all, including food and water to last the trip, is just impossible.
The story of Noah and the flood is clearly an allegory, since it's ridiculous to think it could have actually happened.
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#190265 - 07/27/10 08:38 PM
Re: a question for the young-earth creationists...
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ronniechoate34
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Humans and dinosaurs did not coexist. They were millions of years apart.
Right. Except sometimes when scientists are proven wrong about something being extinct.
No one knows what exists in the oceans. I'm sure there are sea monsters galore. My daughter showed me a picture of one of these deep water angle fish that would curl your hair.
Before the flood the conditions were ripe for dinosaurs and the aquatic life probably wasn't too affected by the flood except for the rising of the waters. I am sure that had some affect on the marine life of the time. After the flood conditions had changed and the time of the land behemoth was at an end.
The behemoth described in Job is believed to be a Brachiosaurus. The scripture describes the behemoth as having a tail like a cedar and being the greatest or largest of a God's creations.
A tail like a cedar. Does that sound like a hippo or an elephant to you?
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#190266 - 07/27/10 08:40 PM
Re: a question for the young-earth creationists...
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ronniechoate34
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Noah was instructed to take two of every kind of animal. Not two of every kind of the various species of animals and the like. Just two cats, two birds, two horses, etc.
Edited by ronniechoate34 (07/27/10 08:42 PM)
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