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#190002 - 07/25/10 05:17 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
flicka
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
It is all based on bones

No, it isn't Paul. Evolution draws information from not only the fossil record of change in earlier species, but from chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms, the geographic distribution of related species and the recorded genetic changes in living organisms over many generations.

Plus, evolution is an ongoing process, so we are just not talking old bones.
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#190003 - 07/25/10 05:21 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: where the wild roadrunners roa... 		You give the bible as evidence, yet it has no scientific evidence backing its claims. Evolution is not abt the creation of the universe. Even you should know that. You'd rather accept the fanciful imaginations of the naive ppl who wrote one the most poorly supported texts of all time.
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#190004 - 07/25/10 05:26 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: flicka]
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Loc: Washington 		I still see it as a pseudo science Flicka but I do read new info from both sides as it appears and watch tv documentaries..mostly agnostic and atheistic in nature. I have to dig for christian info as it comes up, so I'm a digger too. :-)
I think evolutionary scientist aren't truth driven but are theory driven for the most part to make supposed evidence fit. But to be fair I see that a lot from the religious side extremists also. I am not worried because I truly think our generation will pretty much know just about everything about everything in our lifetimes. And I think it will be pretty soon. Of course I am sure you know what I think by now.
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#190005 - 07/25/10 05:31 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: Washington 		Shakey you have no proof of your scientific beliefs either other than the scientists and their papers you follow..it is all just opinion but I prefer the centuries old book of God to guide my life..it has been proven to christian many times over of its veracity. To those outside the beliefs of the book I would expect no other responses than the ones you have been giving.
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#190006 - 07/25/10 05:34 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: where the wild roadrunners roa... 		Try just digging for truth once. You'll find that all you held true is a lie perpetrated by the church to keep you in line. There is no evidence whatsoever to support christian info or science or whatever you want to call the nonsense you devour.
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#190007 - 07/25/10 05:38 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: shakey56]
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Loc: where the wild roadrunners roa... 		I have no beliefs. That nonsense is your idiotology. I do accept what can be proven given what we know today. Thus evolution exists and God is still waiting for confirmation.
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#190009 - 07/25/10 05:44 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: shakey56]
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Loc: Washington 		I am a living part of the church of Jesus Christ and I don't need any official church organization to firm up my beliefs, however I go to church to associate with the other brothers and sisters in Christ and support them and missionaries This is what the Apostles of Christ ask us to do. My beliefs are formed directly from the word of God. He has asked us to prove Him and I have as have millions of other christians worldwide.
You use information you receive to form your life views I presume.
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#190010 - 07/25/10 05:49 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Creation is there plain and simple if you don't fall through the sieve of understanding in the book of the word and take the out of order scriptures in chapter one and two and begin forming your own conclusions out of context.

I agree completely. In fact, I always had questions about the story of Creation in Genesis until I realized that the Big Bang theory described it perfectly.

I wrote a prayer question & answer poem shortly after my injury 25 years ago. I questioned various things about proof of creation and followed with His(God's)answer the next line.

God's started his replies by stating:
"Believe what you desire
you may choose while on this earth."

Of course, I know the answers were coming from inside myself, but...I was surprised how it ended.

This was my last question:
How can we accept Creation when theory seems to be
some evolution process, a creature from the sea?

Believe the Big Bang theory then,
My child that was Me.
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#190011 - 07/25/10 05:54 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: where the wild roadrunners roa... 		My information has valid data backing it up. All you have is a bad novel to support your delusions masquerading as beliefs. You have been asked many times to provide verifiable evidence to support your claims. You have yet to provide any.
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#190012 - 07/25/10 05:59 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Originally Posted By: Paulwa_dup1
Of course the earth was hanging in space for an onknown length of time because it says there was darkness on the face of the deep (universe?) and the earth was without form and void.

I find Stephen Hawking's study of the universe to find the origin of earth & such pretty fascinating.
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#190013 - 07/25/10 06:04 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: flicka]
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Loc: Washington 		Interesting Flicka. I think there is a portion of our spirit that remained..perhaps only a small portion that has the divine spark of God in each of us and it flickers dimly but occassionaly we make that internal connection whether we are christian believers or not. I don't know whether the BigBang occurred to cause creation or not but it is as good a hook to hang things on as any other. Just a thought a German lady Physiscist who was working on the Shroud of Turin believes the shroud is the burial cloth of Jesus and that the ressurection was caused by a small version of the BigBang. She explains it this way by studying the image on the shroud. At the moment the image was formed on the surface fibrils of the shroud the body was floating in the air between the upper and lower sheets that were pulled exactly flat and taut because the muscles from the three D image show that they were hanging fully formed and touching nothing to flaten them. At that point she stops becaus no opne knows exactly what technique caused that image but there is nothing that could have formed it on earth as it is. She is studying it to tie the mico realitivety to the macrto as are sevetral other enthused scientists. It will be amazing what they can learn from this study.
Paul

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#190014 - 07/25/10 06:11 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: where the wild roadrunners roa... 		The depths of your delusions are amazing! You buy that hogwash and discount the only credible evidence which shows the shroud dates to the middle ages.
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#190015 - 07/25/10 06:15 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: shakey56]
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Loc: Washington 		Get with the age Shakey the carbon 14 test was accurate but it was proved by scientists that the sample was taken from a repair near the 1200's. Believe what you want ole buddy. We'll see who is right pretty soon. Huh? :-)
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#190016 - 07/25/10 06:22 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: where the wild roadrunners roa... 		It was not proven by anybody. That's the lame explanation given by the church and its supporters. No further tests have been allowed which points strongly to this whole thing being just another in the long list of christian farces.
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#190017 - 07/25/10 06:25 PM Re: Are there modern-day prophets? [Re: Paulwa_dup1]
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Loc: Washington 		Shakey you don't know what you are talking about. You really need to check up on this before you go blowing off. I know same thing they tell me about politics. Point made.:-)

Got to go to church right now, play guitar ya know. Millie makes me just so she can go play electric bass guitar. She's stage struck I think, Ha!
Paul

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