#190333 - 07/29/10 03:35 AM
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kalb
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#190347 - 07/29/10 09:54 AM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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people dont want government involved unless they get something for free, then they demand it
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#190351 - 07/29/10 10:59 AM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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Greg
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grow up will ya, "good" gov't makes for a better world.
without good gov't, well just look at recent events, gulf spill, unregulated sub prime lending, runaway wars.
and now some are actually thinking of putting Palin in charge.
you'll may claim to have the best gov't in the world but I just don't get it.
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#190412 - 07/30/10 07:32 AM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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ævory
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Yes, good govt. greg. define good govt
flicka, it bothers me, to a degree that you always go to the govt sites (not to say i go to my neighbor here, flicka, in rebuttal, cus you don't know who i go to..or maybe i don't go to anyone, neither here nor there cus either way it doesn't make me more or less knowlegable to make an accurate decision about things) due to the fact that you would not think of going to the govt sites of past, when Bush was pres. to boost each and every dispute that comes up here. Now, you do.
It's just.... as if you are still rolling off the election platform with Obama in your lap and he's saying how discouraged the real people of the country Are in their govt. so he is happy to let us know that he feels our pain and is NOT about that. He is about a better govt.
It's: we're tired of the big ( bad ) govt. and so we are going to make for a bigger govt.....and, see, we (Obama & team) don't even need to tell you how or any of the details (even though we are for transparency...just look at our websites! for proof) because you voted for change and now you're getting it.
It is disguised as the big good govt. See...it's not so harsh a reality to you, flicka, and others, cus....you believe in what you voted for, therefor you will draw upon those sites for proof. It's like asking someone to quit using the bible as their proof and give em somethin else....I suppose. Your rebuttals are like solid biblical proof.I believe in the Bible, but not in a disguised good govt.
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#190415 - 07/30/10 10:26 AM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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flicka
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... due to the fact that you would not think of going to the govt sites of past, when Bush was pres. to boost each and every dispute that comes up here. Now, you do.
I don't think this is true. How is someone supposed to determine progress, or lack thereof, without first looking to see the goal and how it is formulated?
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#190419 - 07/30/10 11:22 AM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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The bible is a matter of faith wether or not you believe it. Very little evidence either way. At least Govt site can be accepted or refuted based on actual data.
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#190422 - 07/30/10 12:47 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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flicka
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This evening, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) attached an amendment with funding to preserve teachers’ jobs and to provide much-needed Medicaid funding to states to a Federal Aviation Administration bill. The amendment is fully paid-for, and the FAA bill is just a vehicle. Reid filed cloture, meaning the Senate will vote on the provisions on Monday.
The amendment includes $10 billion in funding for teachers’ jobs and $16.1 billion in funding for the Federal Medical Assistance Percentages, or FMAP, program, which provides Medicaid funding to states. For offsets, it closes foreign tax credit loopholes to raise $9 billion; it also cuts $2 billion from Medicaid drug pricing, $8.4 billion in rescissions and $6.7 billion from the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, or SNAP, formerly known as food stamps.
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#190423 - 07/30/10 12:48 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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flicka
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WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Thursday rejected a bill to aid small businesses with expanded loan programs and tax breaks, in a procedural blockade that underscored how fiercely determined the party’s leaders are to deny Democrats any further legislative accomplishments ahead of November’s midterm elections.
The measure, championed by Senator Mary L. Landrieu, Democrat of Louisiana, had the backing of some of the Republican Party’s most reliable business allies, including the United States Chamber of Commerce and the National Federation of Independent Business. Several Republican lawmakers also helped write it.
But Republican leaders filibustered after fighting for days with Democrats over the number of amendments they would be able to offer. A last-ditch offer by Democrats to allow three was refused by the Republican leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
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#190425 - 07/30/10 01:12 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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Yes, good govt. greg. define good govt
Good Govt. keeps a roof over your head, food on your table and your ass alive so you can bitch abt Govt. Without Govt. it's doubtful you or a whole buncha other folks with disabilities would be alive. It paves our roads, defends us, provides for our weakest, protects us from our strongest, educates our children and a host of other things we take for granted.
Not all Govt. is good just as not all business is bad. We need to get away from either or thinking and find compromises that work. Every time I hear either side condemning one be it Govt. or business in total I cringe. We have seen both get out of hand in recent decades. We need to limit the excesses on both sides while creating an environment where both can work together effectively. One thing for certain is neither would be good without the other. Complete Govt. control = totalitarianism, and complete business control = pure survival of the fittest.
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#190426 - 07/30/10 01:33 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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ævory
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Yes, good govt. greg. define good govt
Good Govt. keeps a roof over your head, food on your table and your ass alive so you can bitch abt Govt. Without Govt. it's doubtful you or a whole buncha other folks with disabilities would be alive. It paves our roads, defends us, provides for our weakest, protects us from our strongest, educates our children and a host of other things we take for granted. Not all Govt. is good just as not all business is bad. We need to get away from either or thinking and find compromises that work. Every time I hear either side condemning one be it Govt. or business in total I cringe. We have seen both get out of hand in recent decades. We need to limit the excesses on both sides while creating an environment where both can work together effectively. One thing for certain is neither would be good without the other. Complete Govt. control = totalitarianism, and complete business control = pure survival of the fittest.
Well a more pure Shakeydumb i've never heard. Thanks for taking the bait. And let me get thru laughing here cus who the heck do you think you're talking to? I watched for 7-8 yrs while all you talking political and religious heads ragged on and on about one injustice to yourselves or another that Was All ABout Govt. Why do you think that I've developed this attitude (just one of many) that youse are a bunch of downers and negative and ...?
LOL, ...
huh, shakeydumb?
* I could not resist, afterall, I sit on a mountain of Ronduhs, and we all know where the majority of those come from.  Have a great day and...shake a leg.
Flicka...I thought i posted the other day about how twisted the reports are about how the Republicans have been against getting anything passed for the small businessman. Just keep the facts coming, tho. 's all good.
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#190428 - 07/30/10 01:46 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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shakey56
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Yes, good govt. greg. define good govt
Good Govt. keeps a roof over your head, food on your table and your ass alive so you can bitch abt Govt. Without Govt. it's doubtful you or a whole buncha other folks with disabilities would be alive. It paves our roads, defends us, provides for our weakest, protects us from our strongest, educates our children and a host of other things we take for granted. Not all Govt. is good just as not all business is bad. We need to get away from either or thinking and find compromises that work. Every time I hear either side condemning one be it Govt. or business in total I cringe. We have seen both get out of hand in recent decades. We need to limit the excesses on both sides while creating an environment where both can work together effectively. One thing for certain is neither would be good without the other. Complete Govt. control = totalitarianism, and complete business control = pure survival of the fittest. Well a more pure Shakeydumb i've never heard. Thanks for taking the bait. And let me get thru laughing here cus who the heck do you think you're talking to? I watched for 7-8 yrs while all you talking political and religious heads ragged on and on about one injustice to yourselves or another that Was All ABout Govt. Why do you think that I've developed this attitude (just one of many) that youse are a bunch of downers and negative and ...? LOL, ... huh, shakeydumb? * I could not resist, afterall, I sit on a mountain of Ronduhs, and we all know where the majority of those come from. Have a great day and...shake a leg. Flicka...I thought i posted the other day about how twisted the reports are about how the Republicans have been against getting anything passed for the small businessman. Just keep the facts coming, tho. 's all good.
Well, that was one one your best Ronduhs...lol Make up what passes for your mind. Do I dump on business too much or bitch abt Govt. injustice too much. You've been complaining abt my anti business posts forever. Are you now saying I'm too tough on Govt.?
BTW...where in my post did I say that all Govt. was good?
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#190429 - 07/30/10 01:48 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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flicka
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Flicka...I thought i posted the other day about how twisted the reports are about how the Republicans have been against getting anything passed for the small businessman. Just keep the facts coming, tho. 's all good.
If you did, I must have missed it. So, the Republicans aren't blocking aid to small businesses?
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#190468 - 07/31/10 01:29 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment benefit
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ævory
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I guess I refer to the increase in the foodstamps, the charity organizations (not fed related) and I'm pretty sure there are others.
But what is in the small business jobs bill? I believe, from hearing about what is happening in small businesses, that the healthcare bill has a huge influence on the small employer's slashing their payroll. Eliminating jobs. What else can they do? You left out the fact that the new health care bills caused every disease known to man...lol The slashing was largely done before there was a health care bill.
and continues to be slashed more.
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#190470 - 07/31/10 01:40 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment ben
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ævory
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Flicka...I thought i posted the other day about how twisted the reports are about how the Republicans have been against getting anything passed for the small businessman. Just keep the facts coming, tho. 's all good.
If you did, I must have missed it. So, the Republicans aren't blocking aid to small businesses?
you know, i can't fully understand the govt link you posted for me. just as i couldn't w/ the healthcare bill. I'm glad I don't have the job to determine what gets passed and what doesn't. All I know is that for as long as the bill has been on the floor (the small bus. one) the repubs have wanted something changed and no budging from the demos. Now we finally get two or three amendments....so many more sitting there to be...so, whose fault, I dunno. I certainly believe that both sides (all parties) want small businesses to get a break...to get govt help now...it's probably, to my thinking, that the repubs don't want the small guys to get a false sense of 'yeah, we did it with no undue hardships. You know, no risk, no real reward, no risk no learn, ....risk-free isn't necessarily good and that's obama...bailing everyone out, risk-free. It's big and small businesses hurting...they both laid people off....is this the case of a bipartisan thing turning into a partisan thing where the demos don't want to listen to anything from the right? i dunno...everyone's to blame.
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#190473 - 07/31/10 01:58 PM
Re: Obama signed the extension of unemployment ben
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flicka
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i dunno...everyone's to blame.
I agree. I also think it's nuts to add a bunch of amendments onto bills just to get the bill passed. It's something I've had a problem with, regardless of party, for a long time.
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